WHAT IS WRONG WITH POWER
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH POWER
Greetings all, love these forums and would like to ask for your advice please, my c32 has the following mods, kleeman cams, kleeman headers, cm30 water pump,aem 320 fuel pump, 550cc inj, 65mms/c pulley, 178mm kleeman crank pulley,with both pulleys it adds up to 185,quaife diff ,plm h/e, all cats deleted,egrs deleted,needswings dcai,eurocharge ecu&tcu tune, quad c55 exhaust,needswings isolation kit,now here is my problem and delima, put the car on the dyno to see what power it makes and im only getting 306rwhp mainline dyno ,after all the money i spent i have fell into a heap (depression) because i read other members who have done less than half the mods i have done and they are getting greater power numbers, should i call the boys at eurocharge,or will a dyno tune be better,and i know water meth will help but that would be masking the problem,what am i doing wrong, boost is running at 18lbs, afrs are a bit lean but ok, but have ordered 660cc inj, please fellow members, need advice especially about dyno tuning as to eurocharge, will try to attach dyno sheet, best regards and safe motoring.PS did do dyno run on dyno dynamics as well and got 309rwhp
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Howdy mate,
I have no idea about dyno numbers,but your car hauls. Your launch was much more aggressive than my 32. If the dyno is low - obviously if you are posting , I recommend you get the 32 a health check, leak down/pressure test etc. i guess - see what the others chime in and hope you fix it up , will see you soon
I have no idea about dyno numbers,but your car hauls. Your launch was much more aggressive than my 32. If the dyno is low - obviously if you are posting , I recommend you get the 32 a health check, leak down/pressure test etc. i guess - see what the others chime in and hope you fix it up , will see you soon
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Greetings all, love these forums and would like to ask for your advice please, my c32 has the following mods, kleeman cams, kleeman headers, cm30 water pump,aem 320 fuel pump, 550cc inj, 65mms/c pulley, 178mm kleeman crank pulley,with both pulleys it adds up to 185,quaife diff ,plm h/e, all cats deleted,egrs deleted,needswings dcai,eurocharge ecu&tcu tune, quad c55 exhaust,needswings isolation kit,now here is my problem and delima, put the car on the dyno to see what power it makes and im only getting 306rwhp mainline dyno ,after all the money i spent i have fell into a heap (depression) because i read other members who have done less than half the mods i have done and they are getting greater power numbers, should i call the boys at eurocharge,or will a dyno tune be better,and i know water meth will help but that would be masking the problem,what am i doing wrong, boost is running at 18lbs, afrs are a bit lean but ok, but have ordered 660cc inj, please fellow members, need advice especially about dyno tuning as to eurocharge, will try to attach dyno sheet, best regards and safe motoring.PS did do dyno run on dyno dynamics as well and got 309rwhp
Hi there I dont know much about the effects or crank pulley swaps but I do know with just my 65mm s/c pulley I'm hitting 19.6 psi so that seems your down on boost as I'm sure you should be making more than me running along with a larger crank pulley too?
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Since you did not do a before and after dynos, it's hard to say that you have a problem. This dyno may just read low. You should take the car to the track and see what your 1/4 mile times are. Thats the only true test. That said, if you look at dragtimes.com and the setup for the top 5 C32s, none of them are running 178 crank and 65 SC pulleys. At some point the SC starts generating more heat than is desired and more boost becomes counter productive.
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Since you did not do a before and after dynos, it's hard to say that you have a problem. This dyno may just read low. You should take the car to the track and see what your 1/4 mile times are. Thats the only true test. That said, if you look at dragtimes.com and the setup for the top 5 C32s, none of them are running 178 crank and 65 SC pulleys. At some point the SC starts generating more heat than is desired and more boost becomes counter productive.
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Since you did not do a before and after dynos, it's hard to say that you have a problem. This dyno may just read low. You should take the car to the track and see what your 1/4 mile times are. Thats the only true test. That said, if you look at dragtimes.com and the setup for the top 5 C32s, none of them are running 178 crank and 65 SC pulleys. At some point the SC starts generating more heat than is desired and more boost becomes counter productive.
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I know there are 2 guys on srt6 forum that run 65 with 178, ask them, data logging especially wideband, would let u know, with 65 and 178 I think the sc rpm is past what it's designed for
When and where u get kleemen cams, I know they very hard to tune to make power, posts I have read, they mad by schricks
When and where u get kleemen cams, I know they very hard to tune to make power, posts I have read, they mad by schricks
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Eurocharged have done it again!
Well words cannot express my gratitude towards eurocharge performance, spoke to Philip Bulderbergs about my issues, and he told me the following, its not good to have a stacked set up, either remove s/c pulley or crank pulley, if I were you I would get rid of crank and you should see some gains, and lower ait, well I did what Philip suggested, and just a reminder ,running the 65mm s/c pulley and the 178 crank pulley, as you all now I got 306rwhp, I removed the 178 crank pulley and took it straight to the dyno and voila 333rwhp, needs a little more tweaking as im still a little bit lean and some minor torque settings need some attention, but hey I'm hopefully on the right track and I'm sure Philip will help me address these minor issues, from deep depression to a big smile on my face, lol who needs a psychiatrist when I got Philip,once again a very big thank you to eurocharge and especially to Philip.
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And your torque limiters are gone? If you hit those limiters, there is no power. I have told this earlier some othet topic. And EC maybe cant handle this issue, not enought knowledge.
I hit over 412rwp when i get rid off those EC softs.
I hit over 412rwp when i get rid off those EC softs.
