Performance upgrade?
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Performance upgrade?
I'm looking into getting pulleys & a chip. My local dealer is kind of strict, I don't want to void my warranty.
Renntech is kind of close to me, within about an hour and evosport is across the country. I was wondering if it'd be possible to keep my stock ecu and somehow get a new one with a chip?
What do some of you guys do when you take your car in for service and it's been chipped?
Also, are there any main hp differences between evo & renntech?
Thanks!
Renntech is kind of close to me, within about an hour and evosport is across the country. I was wondering if it'd be possible to keep my stock ecu and somehow get a new one with a chip?
What do some of you guys do when you take your car in for service and it's been chipped?
Also, are there any main hp differences between evo & renntech?
Thanks!
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Re: Performance upgrade?
Originally posted by SP6NT
What do some of you guys do when you take your car in for service and it's been chipped?
Thanks!
What do some of you guys do when you take your car in for service and it's been chipped?
Thanks!
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My Evosport pulley has nice "Evosport" white lettering on it, which is readily visible to anyone. Frankly, I really don't care. If my Evosport mods cause a problem with my car, I will look to Evosport. If my car has a non-Evosport-related problem, the dealer will repair it. If MBZ and Evosport both deny to fix a problem, I will do things the "American Way" and sue them both and let them figure it out in court. Aren't you Evosport guys happy you worked on my car?
Seriously, the Evosport clan is a top-quality group of individuals who have done extensive testing (on their own cars). Have you ever seen a posting in which anyone claims that their Evosport mods caused a problem with their C32? Neither have I (and given the general beetchyness of alot of the members of this forum, myself included, I have no doubt that you would immediately hear of any problems).
As far as Renntech v. Evosport goes, the subject has been covered at length in other threads. Suffice it to say that their products are similar (but the Evosport aluminum pulleys shed 13 lbs. off of your motor). Beyond tangible product, however, Evosport seems to be alot more enthusiastic about product development.
Seriously, the Evosport clan is a top-quality group of individuals who have done extensive testing (on their own cars). Have you ever seen a posting in which anyone claims that their Evosport mods caused a problem with their C32? Neither have I (and given the general beetchyness of alot of the members of this forum, myself included, I have no doubt that you would immediately hear of any problems).
As far as Renntech v. Evosport goes, the subject has been covered at length in other threads. Suffice it to say that their products are similar (but the Evosport aluminum pulleys shed 13 lbs. off of your motor). Beyond tangible product, however, Evosport seems to be alot more enthusiastic about product development.
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Vomit, you always make me laugh...because I am an american guy myself. haha.
I am not trying to start a thread who is better evosport vs renntech frankly I don't give a damn I think they are both awesome.
I am mainly concerned with how it would effect my warranty, this thread gave me a better understanding of it.
I am still a little confused on the ECU part however, I don't want my dealer to know the ECU has been tampored with otherwise I think my dealer will drag this into something.
It sucks that I have boughten 130,000 worth of cars from this dealer and am worried about minor warranty stuff.
I am not trying to start a thread who is better evosport vs renntech frankly I don't give a damn I think they are both awesome.
I am mainly concerned with how it would effect my warranty, this thread gave me a better understanding of it.
I am still a little confused on the ECU part however, I don't want my dealer to know the ECU has been tampored with otherwise I think my dealer will drag this into something.
It sucks that I have boughten 130,000 worth of cars from this dealer and am worried about minor warranty stuff.
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i do have evosport's powerkit also. i've already had service A done... dealer didn't say anything.
i choose evosport over renntech due to the best dollar/HP ratio. they will dyno your car to prove to you that your car has gained that much HP. what more could you ask for?
Jerry
i choose evosport over renntech due to the best dollar/HP ratio. they will dyno your car to prove to you that your car has gained that much HP. what more could you ask for?
Jerry
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Originally posted by SiLvaC32
i do have evosport's powerkit also. i've already had service A done... dealer didn't say anything.
i choose evosport over renntech due to the best dollar/HP ratio. they will dyno your car to prove to you that your car has gained that much HP. what more could you ask for?
Jerry
i do have evosport's powerkit also. i've already had service A done... dealer didn't say anything.
i choose evosport over renntech due to the best dollar/HP ratio. they will dyno your car to prove to you that your car has gained that much HP. what more could you ask for?
Jerry
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Originally posted by Vomit
If MBZ and Evosport both deny to fix a problem, I will do things the "American Way" and sue them both and let them figure it out in court. Aren't you Evosport guys happy you worked on my car?
If MBZ and Evosport both deny to fix a problem, I will do things the "American Way" and sue them both and let them figure it out in court. Aren't you Evosport guys happy you worked on my car?
lmao, i like this guy
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SP6NT: My point was, that if you really think about it, what your dealer knows or thinks about your mods is irrelevant. Why do you care if your dealer knows that you have modded your car?
The bottom line is: If your car takes a dump which, modded or not, it would've taken, MBZ is on the hook. You could drive your broken-down rig into the dealer with a big-**** banner on your dash saying "Maximum Evosport/Renntech Performance" but, unless they can prove that the mods caused the failure, it does not effect your warranty. If the mods did cause your failure, then the mod company (assuming that it is a reputable one) will take care of you. I think that you are way too worried about the ECU. The ECU is the last thing in the world that MBZ will notice. My advice: Go with the odds. If everyone says it works, give it the benefit of the doubt.
Out of curiousity, I have started a separate thread entitled "My Renntech/Evosport/Other Tuner Mods Ruined My Engine." Let's see how many people respond affirmatively.
The bottom line is: If your car takes a dump which, modded or not, it would've taken, MBZ is on the hook. You could drive your broken-down rig into the dealer with a big-**** banner on your dash saying "Maximum Evosport/Renntech Performance" but, unless they can prove that the mods caused the failure, it does not effect your warranty. If the mods did cause your failure, then the mod company (assuming that it is a reputable one) will take care of you. I think that you are way too worried about the ECU. The ECU is the last thing in the world that MBZ will notice. My advice: Go with the odds. If everyone says it works, give it the benefit of the doubt.
Out of curiousity, I have started a separate thread entitled "My Renntech/Evosport/Other Tuner Mods Ruined My Engine." Let's see how many people respond affirmatively.
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
For people who have powerchips (Evosport ECU), can you read info with OBDII? I had problems getting a connection.
For people who have powerchips (Evosport ECU), can you read info with OBDII? I had problems getting a connection.
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Jerry, that's strange, stage 1 >2
I thought the Stage 2 included all the stuff from stage 1, instead of being just "SL55 intake, Supersprint headers, Evosport plug wires."
I would expect Stage 2 to consist of the pulleys, intercooler washer tank mod, ECU
AND SL55 intake, Supersprint headers, Evosport plug wires.
Also the stage 2 ECU program, I would expect to be slightly different than the Stage 1 ECU program?
Don
I would expect Stage 2 to consist of the pulleys, intercooler washer tank mod, ECU
AND SL55 intake, Supersprint headers, Evosport plug wires.
Also the stage 2 ECU program, I would expect to be slightly different than the Stage 1 ECU program?
Don
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Yes, when I had my car smog'd. I'll ask the smog tech to hook it up and see if it reads.
m444 - Stage 2 includes all stage 1 items + SL55 intake, Supersprint headers, Evosport plug wires, and stage 2 ecu software.
m444 - Stage 2 includes all stage 1 items + SL55 intake, Supersprint headers, Evosport plug wires, and stage 2 ecu software.
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I'd like to go evosport...they are on the other side of the country?
Where in the fort lauderdale/miami area could I get all of theese mods installed?
It doesn't have a price for Stage II on evosports website...I guess I'll call them up tomorrow.
Where in the fort lauderdale/miami area could I get all of theese mods installed?
It doesn't have a price for Stage II on evosports website...I guess I'll call them up tomorrow.
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My dealer wanted to install the Renntech stuff for me.
No Thanks !! They can't rotate tires correctly. They are proud of my car when they do get to service it. Service manager is a good guy, and likes performace!!!
No Thanks !! They can't rotate tires correctly. They are proud of my car when they do get to service it. Service manager is a good guy, and likes performace!!!
