C32 vs M3 in straight line
MBworld Guru
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,058
Likes: 18
From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
Originally posted by ZAF
Thats what i thought.. As I said I didn't believe him.. And as I also said I was under the impression that C32 is faster between 100-200km/h, due to high torque and high output.
My friends keeps whining that the SMG is faster than 6 speed MT, is that correct? I told him impossible, but then again I only tried the SMG didn't try the MT?
If so please provide numbers, or a site where I can find numbers from.. Because this guy has really caused us a headache lool everytime we gather he just speaks about how cool is his M3 and stuff. Ok its a very nice car, but get along.... We all like our cars, because thats why we bought them...
Thats what i thought.. As I said I didn't believe him.. And as I also said I was under the impression that C32 is faster between 100-200km/h, due to high torque and high output.
My friends keeps whining that the SMG is faster than 6 speed MT, is that correct? I told him impossible, but then again I only tried the SMG didn't try the MT?
If so please provide numbers, or a site where I can find numbers from.. Because this guy has really caused us a headache lool everytime we gather he just speaks about how cool is his M3 and stuff. Ok its a very nice car, but get along.... We all like our cars, because thats why we bought them...
I think TopGear or 5th Gear tested both the SMG and the 6-MT.
Almost a Member!
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Volvo S40
Originally posted by Thai
Bottom line from an M3 owner:
1. C32 should be able to edge out an M3 CONVERTIBLE. 0-60 in the convertible is about 5.2-5.4 seconds. You should beat him.
2. SMG is a bit slower from 0-60 mph than 6MT because 6MT can launch at a higher rpms. However, the faster you go (and thus, the more shifting that you do), SMG will catch up slowly. The 1/4 mile mph is about the same with a SLIGHT edge to SMG. Basically, 6MT is faster thru the first gear. The only way that you can shift faster than SMG is by powershifting (aka never lifting your foot from gas pedal, even when shifting) by a drag racing professional. And SMG shifts faster than Speedshift on AMG cars.
3. From a roll (5-xx mph), SMG should edge out 6MT because you take away 6MT launch advantage.
Conclusion: The fact that your friend has a CONVERTIBLE and SMG means that you should be able to take him easily from 0-60 mph. From a roll, it is a bit harder, but you should edge him out.
Remember, SMG makes perfect launches everytime...so you better know how to launch your AMG!!
Good luck...and kick that ****y SOB...he's making a bad name for M3 owners!
Bottom line from an M3 owner:
1. C32 should be able to edge out an M3 CONVERTIBLE. 0-60 in the convertible is about 5.2-5.4 seconds. You should beat him.
2. SMG is a bit slower from 0-60 mph than 6MT because 6MT can launch at a higher rpms. However, the faster you go (and thus, the more shifting that you do), SMG will catch up slowly. The 1/4 mile mph is about the same with a SLIGHT edge to SMG. Basically, 6MT is faster thru the first gear. The only way that you can shift faster than SMG is by powershifting (aka never lifting your foot from gas pedal, even when shifting) by a drag racing professional. And SMG shifts faster than Speedshift on AMG cars.
3. From a roll (5-xx mph), SMG should edge out 6MT because you take away 6MT launch advantage.
Conclusion: The fact that your friend has a CONVERTIBLE and SMG means that you should be able to take him easily from 0-60 mph. From a roll, it is a bit harder, but you should edge him out.
Remember, SMG makes perfect launches everytime...so you better know how to launch your AMG!!
Good luck...and kick that ****y SOB...he's making a bad name for M3 owners!
.. And to tell you the truth if i wear between C32 and M3 I would go for the M3, for the fact that it is a coupe.About the SMG, well I think you can rev it. If I am not mistaken you hold the gear knob to the front and rev, then release the knob. Works like a clutch.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by ZAF
I don't own a C32 .. And to tell you the truth if i wear between C32 and M3 I would go for the M3, for the fact that it is a coupe.
About the SMG, well I think you can rev it. If I am not mistaken you hold the gear knob to the front and rev, then release the knob. Works like a clutch.
I don't own a C32
.. And to tell you the truth if i wear between C32 and M3 I would go for the M3, for the fact that it is a coupe.About the SMG, well I think you can rev it. If I am not mistaken you hold the gear knob to the front and rev, then release the knob. Works like a clutch.
What you are talking about is LAUNCH CONTROL...it will only rev your engine up to 1800 rpms. Remember, SMG is a pure manual tranny.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by Marko
Thai Noodles, I don't know what your problem is but
I bet it's hard to pronounce.
Thai Noodles, I don't know what your problem is but
I bet it's hard to pronounce.
Sensitive...you're even more sensitive than my girlfriend!
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
You have a girlfriend?
I'd hardly call $1.95 for the first minute and $3.95 for each following minute a "girlfriend".
Whatever point you attempt to make, you come across as a typical BMW *****. No offense.
I'd hardly call $1.95 for the first minute and $3.95 for each following minute a "girlfriend".
Whatever point you attempt to make, you come across as a typical BMW *****. No offense.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
From: Hong Kong
c63
Thai,
I always see M3 in my rear view mirror, but I really like M3's front skirts. If you come to Hong Kong one day, let me know. I will let you know how powerful of our AMG power!
BTW, I saw your info and I noticed that you are almost 60 yo right.
I always see M3 in my rear view mirror, but I really like M3's front skirts.
If you come to Hong Kong one day, let me know. I will let you know how powerful of our AMG power!BTW, I saw your info and I noticed that you are almost 60 yo right.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by simonlam168
Thai,
I always see M3 in my rear view mirror, but I really like M3's front skirts. If you come to Hong Kong one day, let me know. I will let you know how powerful of our AMG power!
BTW, I saw your info and I noticed that you are almost 60 yo right.
Thai,
I always see M3 in my rear view mirror, but I really like M3's front skirts.
If you come to Hong Kong one day, let me know. I will let you know how powerful of our AMG power!BTW, I saw your info and I noticed that you are almost 60 yo right.
If you come to the US, i will show you how good of a handler is my M3.
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
From: Hong Kong
c63
I have owned E46 M3 manual. It made me disappointed, it is fast but not as fast as my older W210 E55 and W208 CLK55. Just a little bit faster than Honda S2000. But it is just my opinion.
I will go to US next month but not Texas. If I visit Texas one day, I will let you know.
I will go to US next month but not Texas. If I visit Texas one day, I will let you know.
MBworld Guru
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,058
Likes: 18
From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
Originally posted by Thai
Yup, i am over the hill! I am just trying to recapture my youth with the M3.
If you come to the US, i will show you how good of a handler is my M3.
Yup, i am over the hill! I am just trying to recapture my youth with the M3.
If you come to the US, i will show you how good of a handler is my M3.
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Originally posted by Thai
Take a look in the mirror, *****.
Take a look in the mirror, *****.
Was that the best you could do?
If you drive as bad as you banter, you've undoubtedly
fallen victim to many a Honda Accord.
When do you graduate?
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by Marko
Thai Pad Prik,
Was that the best you could do?
If you drive as bad as you banter, you've undoubtedly
fallen victim to many a Honda Accord.
When do you graduate?
Thai Pad Prik,
Was that the best you could do?
If you drive as bad as you banter, you've undoubtedly
fallen victim to many a Honda Accord.
When do you graduate?
At least, i don't own a C230...oh, i mean C32...they all look the same!:p
MBworld Guru
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,058
Likes: 18
From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
dudes, leave the man with mid-life crisis along!!! let it be if he feels the need to justify his purchase or believe he's the only one whos ever driven a M3...let it be...
personally I got better things to do than argue endlessly about a topic that's been talked about for 2-3 years already.
personally I got better things to do than argue endlessly about a topic that's been talked about for 2-3 years already.
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Originally posted by Thai
Well, according to you, i am a bum under a bridge...i am happy with that image. At least, i don't own a C230...oh, i mean C32...they all look the same!:p
Well, according to you, i am a bum under a bridge...i am happy with that image.
At least, i don't own a C230...oh, i mean C32...they all look the same!:p
At least you know when to humble yourself.
Kudos for that. Once you reach puberty,
you'll develop the skills needed
to discern between automobile makes.
Until then, enjoy happy thoughts of driving
a maxed out 318i, and frequenting message
boards with juvenile signature in tow-all the
way down to the hilarious tire size listed.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 1
From: Genoa, NV
2014 GLK250 BlueTec & 2009 ML320 BlueTec
Last edited by theine; Apr 17, 2004 at 06:06 PM.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by Marko
frequenting message
boards with juvenile signature in tow-all the
way down to the hilarious tire size listed.
frequenting message
boards with juvenile signature in tow-all the
way down to the hilarious tire size listed.
LOOK AROUND THESE FORUMS...same crap, different faces.BUT, at M3 forums, i don't see much of, "why does my special car look like one half it's price?!"
Last edited by Thai; Apr 17, 2004 at 11:52 PM.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by theine
Here are the facts:
http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...Car1=2&Car2=42
Here are the facts:
http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...Car1=2&Car2=42
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by Marko
enjoy happy thoughts of driving
a maxed out 318i
enjoy happy thoughts of driving
a maxed out 318i
Did you think that you were driving a tuned-down S-class or maybe even a Maybach??? Too funny!What's that saying..."people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks!"
Last edited by Thai; Apr 18, 2004 at 12:11 AM.
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Originally posted by Thai
Oh yeah, and that is different from here???!!! LOOK AROUND THESE FORUMS...same crap, different faces.
At M3 forums, i don't see much of, "why does my special car look like one half it's price?!"
Oh yeah, and that is different from here???!!!
LOOK AROUND THESE FORUMS...same crap, different faces.At M3 forums, i don't see much of, "why does my special car look like one half it's price?!"
You do realize that you're depriving a village somewhere of their idiot?
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
2004 Mercedes G500 Black
Originally posted by Marko
That's because at M3 forums, people don't hesitate to speak their minds because they have nothing to lose.
That's because at M3 forums, people don't hesitate to speak their minds because they have nothing to lose.
Oh yeah, BTW, you're right, i will speak my mind and i don't have anything to lose...that's the internet for ya!
Last edited by Thai; Apr 18, 2004 at 12:15 AM.
