Frank's Obsidian Obsession - AMG
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
yea.....we just wanted to see the comparisons since he had never ran a Stage 3 S4 and I had never ran a C32 AMG. When will your car be done? Keep me posted as we can do some comparison runs. Always nice to see different cars and Stages and see how they compare 
BTW, I'm going to donate my free dyno coupon at the meet in Huntington Beach.
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
Its usually just Stage 3 or Stage 3+ (Cams, Port and Polished intake/exhaust Manis, etc.).....there is really no "Stage 4" designation on B5 S4's yet....."officially" anyways 
But to give you an idea.....a typical Stage 3 S4 is around 330-380 whp on pump gas (depending on if its East Coast 93 or Cali Craptane 91). So about 420-470 CHP...with about the same TQ. On racegas.....400-450 whp is not uncommon.....depending on the car and which kit it runs. Typical Stage 3 car will go lo 12's (12.2ish@113-117) give or take. Some go a little faster.....factory freaks perhaps
But to give you an idea.....a typical Stage 3 S4 is around 330-380 whp on pump gas (depending on if its East Coast 93 or Cali Craptane 91). So about 420-470 CHP...with about the same TQ. On racegas.....400-450 whp is not uncommon.....depending on the car and which kit it runs. Typical Stage 3 car will go lo 12's (12.2ish@113-117) give or take. Some go a little faster.....factory freaks perhaps Not bad, although I'm glad that I don't have an S4. That's some pretty serious surgery to get to that level, and I know I wouldn't be able to resist doing it
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great info onthe S4!
Too bad the B7 RS4 is a V8. I wished they would of kept the V6 Bi-turbo set up.
BMW is doing the right thing on the 335i.
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What is your take on their turbo new engine? Forgive me if I sound ignorant to turbo engines, but I have never owned or modified one.
But to me the 335i coupe or sedan will be a tuners dream, but its 3 cylinder per turbo design may hurt its potential.
Too bad the B7 RS4 is a V8. I wished they would of kept the V6 Bi-turbo set up.
BMW is doing the right thing on the 335i.
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What is your take on their turbo new engine? Forgive me if I sound ignorant to turbo engines, but I have never owned or modified one.
But to me the 335i coupe or sedan will be a tuners dream, but its 3 cylinder per turbo design may hurt its potential.
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Not bad, although I'm glad that I don't have an S4. That's some pretty serious surgery to get to that level, and I know I wouldn't be able to resist doing it
but in all honestly, its pretty straight forward bolt-on/screw-in type of installation when doing Stage 3.....u just have to pull the engine But it helps when many of the parts are Audi OEM (it's good to have the real B5 RS4 as brother) to upgrade and swap parts for. My car is pretty much done now.....just gonna mess with some software and tuning stuff
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great info onthe S4!
Too bad the B7 RS4 is a V8. I wished they would of kept the V6 Bi-turbo set up.
BMW is doing the right thing on the 335i.
EvilllEmpirE
What is your take on their turbo new engine? Forgive me if I sound ignorant to turbo engines, but I have never owned or modified one.
But to me the 335i coupe or sedan will be a tuners dream, but its 3 cylinder per turbo design may hurt its potential.
Too bad the B7 RS4 is a V8. I wished they would of kept the V6 Bi-turbo set up.
BMW is doing the right thing on the 335i.
EvilllEmpirE
What is your take on their turbo new engine? Forgive me if I sound ignorant to turbo engines, but I have never owned or modified one.
But to me the 335i coupe or sedan will be a tuners dream, but its 3 cylinder per turbo design may hurt its potential.
All of us Turbocharged S4 owners say that the new RS4 should have had the 4.2 Liter BiTurbo that was in the RS6. "THAT" would have been a dream!!! The new twin-turbo BMW 335i looks nice.....some real good potential there. It seems like with just a few simple mods, it'll be quick as hell, perhaps as fast as the NEW 400+ HP M3. With just a chip/software, DP's, exhaust.....you should be able to be near the 400 HP mark. Only drawback it seems (this is all theoretical btw) is that since it is an Aluminum Alloy Block.....it might not be able to "handle" HIGH BOOST applications...and consequently anything over 400ish+ HP. The great thing about the B5 S4 2.7 V6 is that it's got an Iron bottom end...so 500-600 HP is fine in the engine. But who knows until they start pushing this new Inline 6 powerplant. It'll be interesting to see fer sure
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
haha...yea, modding is a disease but in all honestly, its pretty straight forward bolt-on/screw-in type of installation when doing Stage 3.....u just have to pull the engine But it helps when many of the parts are Audi OEM (it's good to have the real B5 RS4 as brother) to upgrade and swap parts for. My car is pretty much done now.....just gonna mess with some software and tuning stuff
but in all honestly, its pretty straight forward bolt-on/screw-in type of installation when doing Stage 3.....u just have to pull the engine But it helps when many of the parts are Audi OEM (it's good to have the real B5 RS4 as brother) to upgrade and swap parts for. My car is pretty much done now.....just gonna mess with some software and tuning stuff yea, from the mod list of the stage 3 they look to be simple bolt-ons. only the turbo needs to have the engine out. I envy turbo modders...
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
quick enough Typical Stage 3 B5 S4's (all-bolt-ons) trap about 115-118 (full weight of 3800+ lbs)......the fastest ones trap 120-129. They can hang with most cars
Typical Stage 3 B5 S4's (all-bolt-ons) trap about 115-118 (full weight of 3800+ lbs)......the fastest ones trap 120-129. They can hang with most cars
Originally Posted by FrankW
I think we can, but that requires taking the ecu out and apart. Ours can't be done like the Audi or BMW from the reader port under the dash. I wish we can tho. 
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Originally Posted by RI55
Frank they are looking for pic over at audizine thread, show 'em what a SWEET ride looks like!!!!
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they are? lol...i'll post in a little bit with couple pics i just took today.
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UPDATES w/ pics: my piano black trim project...and lost a piece of impact strip...
well, haven't been around as much for quite a while especially since nothing really new's going on with the car, so I've been taking up other hobbies for a little bit.
anywayz, finally got the time to put my idea into actions and installed the trims that I had it painted a while back.
btw, if anyone wants to buy my C32/patterned aluminum trims are for sale $500 OR $250 plus your wood trim.
here are the pics
with flash
without flash
bad pic showing the door trims
now the heart breaking part of today's action!! I somehow manage to pop out the last molding piece along the passenger taking a hard left ...got to my friend's place realize the piece was missing...went back to the scene and found it broken and badly rashed. someone probably ran it over after it popped out. 
pics
anywayz, finally got the time to put my idea into actions and installed the trims that I had it painted a while back.
btw, if anyone wants to buy my C32/patterned aluminum trims are for sale $500 OR $250 plus your wood trim.
here are the pics
with flash
without flash
bad pic showing the door trims
now the heart breaking part of today's action!! I somehow manage to pop out the last molding piece along the passenger taking a hard left
...got to my friend's place realize the piece was missing...went back to the scene and found it broken and badly rashed. someone probably ran it over after it popped out. pics
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Dude I've always loved your car, but the C32 on the glove box destroys the illusion
I love the sport pedals, but how did you mount the dead pedal there - I've pulled all that up and it's just foam under there - is it a good solid mount? Where does it attach to the car?
Also, chin-up - I'm sure a new 2 inch molding piece will only be like $700
Thanks - nice pics.
I love the sport pedals, but how did you mount the dead pedal there - I've pulled all that up and it's just foam under there - is it a good solid mount? Where does it attach to the car?
Also, chin-up - I'm sure a new 2 inch molding piece will only be like $700
Thanks - nice pics.
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Dude I've always loved your car, but the C32 on the glove box destroys the illusion
I love the sport pedals, but how did you mount the dead pedal there - I've pulled all that up and it's just foam under there - is it a good solid mount? Where does it attach to the car?
Also, chin-up - I'm sure a new 2 inch molding piece will only be like $700
Thanks - nice pics.
I love the sport pedals, but how did you mount the dead pedal there - I've pulled all that up and it's just foam under there - is it a good solid mount? Where does it attach to the car?
Also, chin-up - I'm sure a new 2 inch molding piece will only be like $700
Thanks - nice pics.
the pedals are Carlsson pedals. the dead pedal came with two carpet screws/place holder and then you just screw the normal screws onto it.
not worried about the molding piece. found it pretty funny that I actually found it on the road.
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my C32 Weltmeister Exhaust video!!
for those who have asked I've finally uploaded videos of the exhaust clip on YouTube just now. You should be able to see it soon. There're 4 clips, just search "C32 AMG Weltmeister exhaust" and you will see them.
enjoy the clips.
enjoy the clips.
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here's the first clip (the rest are still being processed )
#1 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAcmJRZrpBo
#2 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3vCo8U34mw
#3 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRhEiRuj10
#4 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUQ2z4fHcI
EDIT: adding clips up as it goes
)#1 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAcmJRZrpBo
#2 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3vCo8U34mw
#3 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRhEiRuj10
#4 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUQ2z4fHcI
EDIT: adding clips up as it goes
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video #4 is up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUQ2z4fHcI
