Limited Slip Differential for C32/C55 by AMG Manufaktur
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Ever try to take an AMG car to the track? Ever try to go have fun behind the wheel of a car with power... when it has ESP and a less than agressive LSD? It is like trying to cut your lawn with sheers...it might get the job done but there is a far better way to do the job.
All in all the oem and amg set-up does not "cut the cheese".
All in all the oem and amg set-up does not "cut the cheese".
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Not sure where you are coming from or to where you are going here Miroj. I don't see your point and an LSD will not turn a car into a death trap. My gosh is an M3 a death trap? Is the 996 a death trap?
Either we are driving different sports cars or one of us does not know how to drive.
I would have to agree with Zepp here... your turn off esp and you are asking for your own trouble. I don't want a car geared towards being a safe vehicle at the cost of pleasure. I think MB does the far to often and this is why BMW has the beat in the area of performance. Funny thing is... the M3 is very simple to drive....hard to get all bent out of shape in an M3 or M5.
Either we are driving different sports cars or one of us does not know how to drive.
I would have to agree with Zepp here... your turn off esp and you are asking for your own trouble. I don't want a car geared towards being a safe vehicle at the cost of pleasure. I think MB does the far to often and this is why BMW has the beat in the area of performance. Funny thing is... the M3 is very simple to drive....hard to get all bent out of shape in an M3 or M5.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Got a 996 in the driveway....most simple car to drive I have seen to date. If I could get that car bent out of shape in the dry I would give myself a cookie.
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Originally Posted by miroj
There is probably a good reason why there is no serious racing class devoted to AMG cars. I think 1 LeMans endurance race is enough. Pretty slow on track ..... stable on the freeway.
The reason that no one in the US races MBZ's competitively is really twofold:
1. Lack of Factory support to overcome sizeable development budget
2. Lack of Grassroots support for MB Motorsports
We have worked a little bit on a MB World Challenge program, and the two above reasons really killed the car.
No offense, but both of your posts here have really come across like you are asserting fact, when you are in truth stating opinion, and even that is opinion based FAR from fact.
We all appreciate your input, but you may try to ask more and try to contribute in a way that won't lead people to (a) attack you as they call out your posts, (b) beleive what you are saying as they don't know any better and you sould authoritative.
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Originally Posted by miroj
You couldnt get the 996 out of shape ? Lets not try, most of my friends in that class of ownership seem to have trouble with single and twin turbo variants.
The car is NOT hard to drive, in fact, it is a total bore unless you like to go straight and mash the pedal. Even that is a bore, as it does that well, but with no real excitement. X50 package - different story. GT3/GT2 - different story. 993TT - different story. 80's 911Turbo - VERY different story!
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
Well, I think you are missing some here. The biggest that I can think of is DTM! Team AMG does very well in AMG, and has for MANY years.
The reason that no one in the US races MBZ's competitively is really twofold:
1. Lack of Factory support to overcome sizeable development budget
2. Lack of Grassroots support for MB Motorsports
The reason that no one in the US races MBZ's competitively is really twofold:
1. Lack of Factory support to overcome sizeable development budget
2. Lack of Grassroots support for MB Motorsports
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Not sure I understand that one. What is your explanation, maybe I am missing something.
The M3, S4, 996, RSX-S, CTS-V, etc. is a mass-market car, and there is no issue racing it.
Now I am just confused.
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The M3, S4, 996, RSX-S, CTS-V, etc. is a mass-market car, and there is no issue racing it.
Now I am just confused.
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
Not sure I understand that one. What is your explanation, maybe I am missing something.
The M3, S4, 996, RSX-S, CTS-V, etc. is a mass-market car, and there is no issue racing it.
Now I am just confused.
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The M3, S4, 996, RSX-S, CTS-V, etc. is a mass-market car, and there is no issue racing it.
Now I am just confused.
thanks,
Brad
Now combined with its brutal power and turbo punch I fail to see what it has in common with a C55. By comparison the Benz is playing elevator music.
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Originally Posted by miroj
I dont know if I can cure the confusion but a guy walks into a Porsche dealership and buys the car of his dreams. Some variant of a GT2. So he takes it for a spin on the freeway and half way into a corner he backs off and finds the car has massive understeer. The next day he takes it back into the dealership and the reply is "its a racing car and that is what it does"
Now combined with its brutal power and turbo punch I fail to see what it has in common with a C55. By comparison the Benz is playing elevator music.
Now combined with its brutal power and turbo punch I fail to see what it has in common with a C55. By comparison the Benz is playing elevator music.
As it seems you have not driver a 996TT or GT2, I cannot help you understand.
First, the question was how a mass-marketed car prevented it from being raced. Still confused on that. Please clarify.
Second, no one compares or has compared a GT2 to a C55. The comparison was a 996, which the C55 will run with ANY DAY. I can also tell you that a C32/C55 with 400RWHP has the same punch as the 996TT.
Again, it is helpful to keep facts straight, not make assumptions and not assert opinion as fact, especially when that opinion is based on speculation and sketch logic. Makes the board a better place.
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
First of all - racecars do NOT understeer. That is NOT a function of the diff, it is a function of lawyers making the cars safer to drive so soccer mom's don't hit offramp freeway barriers.
As it seems you have not driver a 996TT or GT2, I cannot help you understand.
First, the question was how a mass-marketed car prevented it from being raced. Still confused on that. Please clarify.
Second, no one compares or has compared a GT2 to a C55. The comparison was a 996, which the C55 will run with ANY DAY. I can also tell you that a C32/C55 with 400RWHP has the same punch as the 996TT.
Again, it is helpful to keep facts straight, not make assumptions and not assert opinion as fact, especially when that opinion is based on speculation and sketch logic. Makes the board a better place.
thanks,
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As it seems you have not driver a 996TT or GT2, I cannot help you understand.
First, the question was how a mass-marketed car prevented it from being raced. Still confused on that. Please clarify.
Second, no one compares or has compared a GT2 to a C55. The comparison was a 996, which the C55 will run with ANY DAY. I can also tell you that a C32/C55 with 400RWHP has the same punch as the 996TT.
Again, it is helpful to keep facts straight, not make assumptions and not assert opinion as fact, especially when that opinion is based on speculation and sketch logic. Makes the board a better place.
thanks,
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Originally Posted by miroj
If you insist on telling me that everything I post never happened then there is no point in posting futher.
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
LOL. Either that or at least answer the specific questions that are asked, or speak of things that happened to YOU first hand.
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Thank you gentlemen for making this a thread with 111 replies and 4226+ views. 
Ever wonder why I never replied to the AMG LSD questions? Because I know thread like this will be getting out of hand. And someone suggested to start another new thread and discuss elsewhere? Why is that never happened?
Ever wonder why I never replied to the AMG LSD questions? Because I know thread like this will be getting out of hand. And someone suggested to start another new thread and discuss elsewhere? Why is that never happened?
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Thank you gentlemen for making this a thread with 111 replies and 4226+ views.
Ever wonder why I never replied to the AMG LSD questions? Because I know thread like this will be getting out of hand. And someone suggested to start another new thread and discuss elsewhere? Why is that never happened?
Ever wonder why I never replied to the AMG LSD questions? Because I know thread like this will be getting out of hand. And someone suggested to start another new thread and discuss elsewhere? Why is that never happened?
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Originally Posted by miroj
What kind of egalitarian rubbish is this. The truth doesnt fade across arms length. You sir are a snob.
please respect otoupalik. we all know he is very knowledgable. your posts have shown otherwise when talking about simple engine modifications, so i would trust otoupalik more on the whole differential facts.
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
i am sorry sir but with all due respect your automotive credibility isn't the greatest. you once said: "headers = intake" and that "camshafts = under the engine covers above the pistons". you then proceeded to say: "First rule of paying for mods. If you dont know where it is on your car you are best off not touching it. Some people like to take advantage in that situation."
please respect otoupalik. we all know he is very knowledgable. your posts have shown otherwise when talking about simple engine modifications, so i would trust otoupalik more on the whole differential facts.
please respect otoupalik. we all know he is very knowledgable. your posts have shown otherwise when talking about simple engine modifications, so i would trust otoupalik more on the whole differential facts.
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From: 40*-55'-44" N / 73*-24'-07" W
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Norm,
I will keep you posted. I know currently when I turn ESP off and hammer the pedal, the car just sits and spins like crazy. I have been told that this should not be the case by having the AMG LSD. This will be one of first tests.
I look forward to going back to the track in March once I have it installed and see how my 1/4 time improves.
I will keep you posted. I know currently when I turn ESP off and hammer the pedal, the car just sits and spins like crazy. I have been told that this should not be the case by having the AMG LSD. This will be one of first tests.
I look forward to going back to the track in March once I have it installed and see how my 1/4 time improves.
Back on topic ... 04E55 AMG, so? What are the results? thoughts? likes? dis-likes? Please come back.
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
As interjected by Harris, holy crap did this thread digress ...
Back on topic ... 04E55 AMG, so? What are the results? thoughts? likes? dis-likes? Please come back.
Back on topic ... 04E55 AMG, so? What are the results? thoughts? likes? dis-likes? Please come back.
Just from driving around town I see a big improvement in traction with my ESP light not flashing all the time. With all that extra power my car is putting down my traction light came on all the time even with ESP on.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Went with the Kleemann LSD ...
...oh... But I thought .... didn't you buy ... weren't you installing ... 
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
...oh... But I thought .... didn't you buy ... weren't you installing ... You thought correctly and I did pay for the OEM AMG LSD. Had some issues getting the AMG LSD from Germany. My contact is still trying to get me one, but in the interim I needed something to help with all this power so I sent my diff to Cory and he installed the LSD and shipped it back to my dealer. I am very pleased so far with the Kleemann LSD and if I get the AMG LSD I will also try that one out.
The Kleemann LSD has a 60% lock-up versus the 30% of AMG. With 580HP and 630 TQ you need all the help you can get
Hope to get my 1/4 mile time into the 11.6/11.7 range in my family sedan
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Hope to get my 1/4 mile time into the 11.6/11.7 range in my family sedan
I'll bee keeping an eye on your "fastest 1/4 time" sig...
Looks like I gotta supercharge to stay in da game!
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I am proud to announce that Limited Slip Differiential (30%) for the C32/C55 will be available from our company in the spring of 2005. It is the LSD made by AMG Unique Manufacturing and will be available in very limited quantity. The LSD will turn your car into a totally different machine, no matter its a 32 or 55. What could be better than to get a LSD developed and made by AMG directly?
Also available is the totally redesigned AMG Nurburgring Suspension for the C55/C32. Other goodies include AMG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Carbon Fiber interior trimming and AMG F1 steering wheel in Carbon Fiber.
We are the ONLY vendor in the entire North America who can obtain these very special hard to find parts. For ordering information, please contact me directly.
Also available is the totally redesigned AMG Nurburgring Suspension for the C55/C32. Other goodies include AMG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Carbon Fiber interior trimming and AMG F1 steering wheel in Carbon Fiber.
We are the ONLY vendor in the entire North America who can obtain these very special hard to find parts. For ordering information, please contact me directly.
