There is probably a good reason why there is no serious racing class devoted to AMG cars. I think 1 LeMans endurance race is enough. Pretty slow on track ..... stable on the freeway.

You couldnt get the 996 out of shape ? Lets not try, most of my friends in that class of ownership seem to have trouble with single and twin turbo variants.

Agree, the standard variety 996 is a bore. We have one also, and it is not exciting on the street at all. Now, the GT3 or GT2 is a different beast. The TT is also a bore IMHO.

Thanks,
Brad

Well, I think you are missing some here. The biggest that I can think of is DTM! Team AMG does very well in AMG, and has for MANY years.

The reason that no one in the US races MBZ's competitively is really twofold:
1. Lack of Factory support to overcome sizeable development budget
2. Lack of Grassroots support for MB Motorsports

We have worked a little bit on a MB World Challenge program, and the two above reasons really killed the car.

No offense, but both of your posts here have really come across like you are asserting fact, when you are in truth stating opinion, and even that is opinion based FAR from fact.

We all appreciate your input, but you may try to ask more and try to contribute in a way that won't lead people to (a) attack you as they call out your posts, (b) beleive what you are saying as they don't know any better and you sould authoritative.

Thanks,
Brad

If you know anybody that has trouble driving a 996TT - take their license away NOW. That car is a fast Lexus. It is about as far from a sporst car as Porsche has ever gone. My grandma can drive that car flat out after drinking her fifth of Early Times - SERIOUSLY!

The car is NOT hard to drive, in fact, it is a total bore unless you like to go straight and mash the pedal. Even that is a bore, as it does that well, but with no real excitement. X50 package - different story. GT3/GT2 - different story. 993TT - different story. 80's 911Turbo - VERY different story!

Thanks

Brad

3. Mass market car

Not sure I understand that one. What is your explanation, maybe I am missing something.

The M3, S4, 996, RSX-S, CTS-V, etc. is a mass-market car, and there is no issue racing it.

Now I am just confused.

thanks,
Brad

I dont know if I can cure the confusion but a guy walks into a Porsche dealership and buys the car of his dreams. Some variant of a GT2. So he takes it for a spin on the freeway and half way into a corner he backs off and finds the car has massive understeer. The next day he takes it back into the dealership and the reply is "its a racing car and that is what it does"

Now combined with its brutal power and turbo punch I fail to see what it has in common with a C55. By comparison the Benz is playing elevator music.

First of all - racecars do NOT understeer. That is NOT a function of the diff, it is a function of lawyers making the cars safer to drive so soccer mom's don't hit offramp freeway barriers.

As it seems you have not driver a 996TT or GT2, I cannot help you understand.

First, the question was how a mass-marketed car prevented it from being raced. Still confused on that. Please clarify.

Second, no one compares or has compared a GT2 to a C55. The comparison was a 996, which the C55 will run with ANY DAY. I can also tell you that a C32/C55 with 400RWHP has the same punch as the 996TT.

Again, it is helpful to keep facts straight, not make assumptions and not assert opinion as fact, especially when that opinion is based on speculation and sketch logic. Makes the board a better place.

thanks,
Brad

If you insist on telling me that everything I post never happened then there is no point in posting futher.

LOL. Either that or at least answer the specific questions that are asked, or speak of things that happened to YOU first hand.

Thanks,
Brad

What kind of egalitarian rubbish is this. The truth doesnt fade across arms length. You sir are a snob.

Thank you gentlemen for making this a thread with 111 replies and 4226+ views.

Ever wonder why I never replied to the AMG LSD questions? Because I know thread like this will be getting out of hand. And someone suggested to start another new thread and discuss elsewhere? Why is that never happened?

Actually we did start a new thread(well brought up an old one) and here it is:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...097#post984097

i am sorry sir but with all due respect your automotive credibility isn't the greatest. you once said: "headers = intake" and that "camshafts = under the engine covers above the pistons". you then proceeded to say: "First rule of paying for mods. If you dont know where it is on your car you are best off not touching it. Some people like to take advantage in that situation."

please respect otoupalik. we all know he is very knowledgable. your posts have shown otherwise when talking about simple engine modifications, so i would trust otoupalik more on the whole differential facts.

At least I dont waste my time reading what you write.

As interjected by Harris, holy crap did this thread digress ...

Back on topic ... 04E55 AMG, so? What are the results? thoughts? likes? dis-likes? Please come back.

Went with the Kleemann LSD and will be going to the track tomorrow so I will report back this weekend. Since I have been to the track before LSD I will have a good baseline to compare my results. My best 0-60 time was 1.81 without LSD.

Just from driving around town I see a big improvement in traction with my ESP light not flashing all the time. With all that extra power my car is putting down my traction light came on all the time even with ESP on.

...oh... But I thought .... didn't you buy ... weren't you installing ...

You thought correctly and I did pay for the OEM AMG LSD. Had some issues getting the AMG LSD from Germany. My contact is still trying to get me one, but in the interim I needed something to help with all this power so I sent my diff to Cory and he installed the LSD and shipped it back to my dealer. I am very pleased so far with the Kleemann LSD and if I get the AMG LSD I will also try that one out.

The Kleemann LSD has a 60% lock-up versus the 30% of AMG. With 580HP and 630 TQ you need all the help you can get

Hope to get my 1/4 mile time into the 11.6/11.7 range in my family sedan

thnx for the explaination!

I'll bee keeping an eye on your "fastest 1/4 time" sig...
Looks like I gotta supercharge to stay in da game! :p

Is there anyway we can get a group-buy going for those who want LSD for the C32?

Doesn't appear that this will work with a C32 or C55...

can you please send me your email so i can contact you about this. Thanks