OneFastZ

Does anyone know? Think you could swap the E55's blower onto the C32's engine?

miroj

A V8 blower would slow down a V6. There is no advantage. Several people from Eaton have already explained that this is the case given that the crank force required puts a greater load on the smaller engine.

Vadim @ evosport

Z: IHI has not released any official kompressor volume specs. When compared to 1.7L Opcon twin-screw, C32 is a little longer. So my guess it is around 1.8L. That should be enough to make around 475-500 HP.

55s are close to 2.2-2.4L. They will not fit directly onto C32. One will need to redesign the kompressor drive, intercooler and intake surge tanks. At this point one might as well get an Opcon or Whipple kompressor and make it work.

BTW, Eaton has nothing to do with IHI, and "crank force" has nothing to do with engine size.

AaronC

I wonder how much the SLR's SC displaces. I bet it is 1/2 again as big as the E55's SC.

miroj

If the larger SC took the same amount of force to turn over as did the stock V6 version then wouldnt there be examples of the implementation ?

OneFastZ

Bigger Supercharger = More Airflow = More power at a lower PSI.

What's the max PSI the C32 engine can take?

miroj

So it turns with no additional force ? Wow ..... a new physics. In addition to which you get more air with less PSI ?

CynCarvin32

miroj

more air and lower psi are not mutually exclusive. bigger screws do move more air and they does not always = more psi

point still stands... there is NO point in changing the blower on the C32. if 500 hp is not enough... well go buy a supra or a skyline.

miroj

Boyles law does not afford such lunacy. It is the basis upon which the SC operates. How can anyone at a given RPM of engine performance inject more air and not increase the pressure. The chamber of the larger SC is not a factor since the plenum of the engine is fixed.

http://members.aol.com/profchm/boyle.html

Volume is fixed therefore pressure is directly related to air mass and its pressure. We can also assume that there is no radical change in operating temp also.

PV = nRT holds true. As does any other gas law.

Your parents would have done better to have spent the money on an education and not a car.

Vadim @ evosport

Miroj:

No knowledge is a bliss.

Little knowledge is a burden.

May the "crank force" be with you, to help you with your burden.

miroj

These paradigms of wallet lubricating virtue only apply to people sacrificially within arms reach of your witty self endorsement. Spend a little time in a consideration lest you betray your indifferent stance.

Even Eaton states as much as I did and that is good enough for me.

Vadim @ evosport

Wow, dude!

Did you mom write this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This like, Budda!!!

Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In particular my "witty self endorsement" and my "indifferent stance".



Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".

Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge and your

miroj

Yes, I shouldnt let a warping of physics and nitrogen compounds come between us. After all ..... im not the one with a vested interest in selling people just anything.

BrabusW203

ROFL!

Vadim @ evosport

Physics and nitrogen???????????????????

Between us?????

Dude, sorry - but whatever you are sniffing I do not want any part of it.

May the "crank force" be with you.


Oh, wait - I get it - CRANK, Oh I am sorry, now it make sense. Just do not burn down the house.

miroj

Yeah Nitrogen, its the key element of fertilizer. The stuff that you seem to be spreading around like your made of it.

Just dont light a match ........

You seem to know a lot about dumping your nitro on people, I guess anyone who believes you deserves you as a supplier.

schwarzwagen

so, are you learning that in your high school physics class?

OneFastZ

Vadim,

Appreciate the reply's and at your comments to miro.

miroj

Hot air and methane from excessive flatulence compressed into a small (minded) space can combust with an explosion. Clearly there is enough material going around to keep the experts on here with Diplomas in opinion revving at redline.

AaronC

miroj, here are some compressor maps for your consumption. The first is a 1.6l displacement twinscrew, the second is a 2.3l.

Note the the flow vs the pressure ratios. Also note the power required vs pressure/volume between the two.

schwarzwagen

you should be so lucky. no no, i would not go down in such an easy manner. it seems to me that the whole point of this exercise (thread) is for you to "wield your intellectual stick" in a vain attempt to show your worth to society. however, i dont think anyone is listening to your cries for acceptance.

this is all fun and games until someone gets hurt, namely your ego.

miroj

The max RPM is not in the same range. If you truncate both performance charts to have matching plots then it becomes apparent.

You also fail to indicate whether the differences in air-flow represent significant gains in the engine over the OEM variety (justifies the cost) or where the pressure is taken ..... plenum or output chamber ? Before or after IC.

Its no wonder you feel the need to believe everything you read. Is there really such a thing as a gain for no cost ? Or is it just more of the Vadim majic we have come to enjoy and love.

EDIT: Unlike Eaton, the POWER CONSUMED to crank the SC is not stated.

miroj

BlackSoccerCar,

You are a genius, in which field I have no idea.

schwarzwagen

the field of making fun of you, because you think you are all that and then some more. nothing terribly personal, you just annoy me and your reckless attitude is also cause for annoyance.

miroj

You contribute what ? You slept at school and now you enlighten us with your domestic platitudes.