E55 AMG's Blower.. How much bigger then C32's?
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Originally Posted by OneFastZ
Does anyone know? Think you could swap the E55's blower onto the C32's engine?
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Z: IHI has not released any official kompressor volume specs. When compared to 1.7L Opcon twin-screw, C32 is a little longer. So my guess it is around 1.8L. That should be enough to make around 475-500 HP.
55s are close to 2.2-2.4L. They will not fit directly onto C32. One will need to redesign the kompressor drive, intercooler and intake surge tanks. At this point one might as well get an Opcon or Whipple kompressor and make it work.
BTW, Eaton has nothing to do with IHI, and "crank force" has nothing to do with engine size.
55s are close to 2.2-2.4L. They will not fit directly onto C32. One will need to redesign the kompressor drive, intercooler and intake surge tanks. At this point one might as well get an Opcon or Whipple kompressor and make it work.
BTW, Eaton has nothing to do with IHI, and "crank force" has nothing to do with engine size.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Z: IHI has not released any official kompressor volume specs. When compared to 1.7L Opcon twin-screw, C32 is a little longer. So my guess it is around 1.8L. That should be enough to make around 475-500 HP.
55s are close to 2.2-2.4L. They will not fit directly onto C32. One will need to redesign the kompressor drive, intercooler and intake surge tanks. At this point one might as well get an Opcon or Whipple kompressor and make it work.
BTW, Eaton has nothing to do with IHI, and "crank force" has nothing to do with engine size.
55s are close to 2.2-2.4L. They will not fit directly onto C32. One will need to redesign the kompressor drive, intercooler and intake surge tanks. At this point one might as well get an Opcon or Whipple kompressor and make it work.
BTW, Eaton has nothing to do with IHI, and "crank force" has nothing to do with engine size.
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Originally Posted by miroj
If the larger SC took the same amount of force to turn over as did the stock V6 version then wouldnt there be examples of the implementation ?
What's the max PSI the C32 engine can take?
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Originally Posted by OneFastZ
Bigger Supercharger = More Airflow = More power at a lower PSI.
What's the max PSI the C32 engine can take?
What's the max PSI the C32 engine can take?
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more air and lower psi are not mutually exclusive. bigger screws do move more air and they does not always = more psi
point still stands... there is NO point in changing the blower on the C32. if 500 hp is not enough... well go buy a supra or a skyline.
more air and lower psi are not mutually exclusive. bigger screws do move more air and they does not always = more psi
point still stands... there is NO point in changing the blower on the C32. if 500 hp is not enough... well go buy a supra or a skyline.
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miroj
more air and lower psi are not mutually exclusive. bigger screws do move more air and they does not always = more psi
point still stands... there is NO point in changing the blower on the C32. if 500 hp is not enough... well go buy a supra or a skyline.
more air and lower psi are not mutually exclusive. bigger screws do move more air and they does not always = more psi
point still stands... there is NO point in changing the blower on the C32. if 500 hp is not enough... well go buy a supra or a skyline.
http://members.aol.com/profchm/boyle.html
Volume is fixed therefore pressure is directly related to air mass and its pressure. We can also assume that there is no radical change in operating temp also.
PV = nRT holds true. As does any other gas law.
Your parents would have done better to have spent the money on an education and not a car.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Miroj:
No knowledge is a bliss.
Little knowledge is a burden.
May the "crank force" be with you, to help you with your burden.
No knowledge is a bliss.
Little knowledge is a burden.
May the "crank force" be with you, to help you with your burden.
Even Eaton states as much as I did and that is good enough for me.
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These paradigms of wallet lubricating virtue only apply to people sacrificially within arms reach of your witty self endorsement. Spend a little time in a consideration lest you betray your indifferent stance.
Did you mom write this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This like, Budda!!!
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In particular my "witty self endorsement" and my "indifferent stance".
Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".
Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge and your
Even Eaton states as much as I did and that is good enough for me.Today 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Wow, dude!
Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".
Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge
Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".
Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge
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Yes, I shouldnt let a warping of physics and nitrogen compounds come between us. After all ..... im not the one with a vested interest in selling people just anything
Between us?????
Dude, sorry - but whatever you are sniffing I do not want any part of it.
May the "crank force" be with you.
Oh, wait - I get it - CRANK, Oh I am sorry, now it make sense. Just do not burn down the house.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Physics and nitrogen???????????????????
Just dont light a match ........
You seem to know a lot about dumping your nitro on people, I guess anyone who believes you deserves you as a supplier.
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Originally Posted by miroj
Boyles law does not afford such lunacy. It is the basis upon which the SC operates. How can anyone at a given RPM of engine performance inject more air and not increase the pressure. The chamber of the larger SC is not a factor since the plenum of the engine is fixed.
http://members.aol.com/profchm/boyle.html
Volume is fixed therefore pressure is directly related to air mass and its pressure. We can also assume that there is no radical change in operating temp also.
PV = nRT holds true. As does any other gas law.
Your parents would have done better to have spent the money on an education and not a car.
http://members.aol.com/profchm/boyle.html
Volume is fixed therefore pressure is directly related to air mass and its pressure. We can also assume that there is no radical change in operating temp also.
PV = nRT holds true. As does any other gas law.
Your parents would have done better to have spent the money on an education and not a car.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Wow, dude!
Did you mom write this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This like, Budda!!!
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In particular my "witty self endorsement" and my "indifferent stance".
Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".
Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge and your
Did you mom write this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This like, Budda!!!
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In particular my "witty self endorsement" and my "indifferent stance".
Look, Miroj. It is quite obvious you have no IDEA what you are talking about. So please lay off "crank force".
Spare all of us of your lack of knowledge and your
Appreciate the reply's and
at your comments to miro.
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Originally Posted by schwarzwagen
so, are you learning that in your high school physics class?
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miroj, here are some compressor maps for your consumption. The first is a 1.6l displacement twinscrew, the second is a 2.3l.
Note the the flow vs the pressure ratios. Also note the power required vs pressure/volume between the two.
Note the the flow vs the pressure ratios. Also note the power required vs pressure/volume between the two.
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Originally Posted by miroj
Hot air and methane from excessive flatulence compressed into a small (minded) space can combust with an explosion. Clearly there is enough material going around to keep the experts on here with Diplomas in opinion revving at redline.
this is all fun and games until someone gets hurt, namely your ego.
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Originally Posted by AaronC
miroj, here are some compressor maps for your consumption. The first is a 1.6l displacement twinscrew, the second is a 2.3l.
Note the the flow vs the pressure ratios. Also note the power required vs pressure/volume between the two.
Note the the flow vs the pressure ratios. Also note the power required vs pressure/volume between the two.
You also fail to indicate whether the differences in air-flow represent significant gains in the engine over the OEM variety (justifies the cost) or where the pressure is taken ..... plenum or output chamber ? Before or after IC.
Its no wonder you feel the need to believe everything you read. Is there really such a thing as a gain for no cost ? Or is it just more of the Vadim majic we have come to enjoy and love.
EDIT: Unlike Eaton, the POWER CONSUMED to crank the SC is not stated.
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Originally Posted by schwarzwagen
you should be so lucky. no no, i would not go down in such an easy manner. it seems to me that the whole point of this exercise (thread) is for you to "wield your intellectual stick" in a vain attempt to show your worth to society. however, i dont think anyone is listening to your cries for acceptance.
this is all fun and games until someone gets hurt, namely your ego.
this is all fun and games until someone gets hurt, namely your ego.
You are a genius, in which field I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by miroj
BlackSoccerCar,
You are a genius, in which field I have no idea.
You are a genius, in which field I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by schwarzwagen
the field of making fun of you, because you think you are all that and then some more. nothing terribly personal, you just annoy me and your reckless attitude is also cause for annoyance.
