cntlaw

We pay high tax for expensive AMGs, M3s for their power.
I heard the Evo9 will have 320+ hp , may be it's time to depart from European cars for drive the Japanese ones.
I also read that Toyota will launch a super car with 600hp.....

TTSUPRAtoE55

The new Toyota supercar if released will cost anywhere from $100-120k I have read. So then you just have to decide if you want a $120k Toyota, or a $120k Mercedes. I love my 1997 supra, but no way am I going to pay over $100k for a new one any time soon.

miroj

So the reason why AMG will go out of fashion is because people in HK cant afford them ?

brn2bn1

No sh$t. Oh well i guess they will have to drive ToyotaZ then

c32_infatuation

I'd rather pay 120 for a drop top sl55 and have the name, credibility, and hand made v8

cntlaw

Not very true and that was not what I meant. :p
(ppl in HK buy cars in any rediculus prices, they will kill me if you say they can't afford )
At this moment, only Motosports, AMGs, 911 Turbo and Ferrari produce high engine power cars, so the choice for (stock) high power engines are limited to a few European companies e.g. MB, BMW.
Because Japan motors companies have all agreed to break the 280hp limit, we are no longer restricted to get AMGs , M...
The image of EVO8, STI are "bad boys", we really need some more gentleman supercars from Japan. Lexus SC430 is not bad but that's the only one today.
Also, here , mods is illegal.

cnt

cntlaw

I agree with you entirely, 1+2=3.
If I get one, there will even be triple your credibility as SL55 sells for 2.15 million HKD here. :p

chitownC55

Cntlaw,

What you really need is a lucky number plate to go with your car, maybe HK 8,18, 8888 or 168..etc.

That will make the car look cheap compared to what you will pay for a lucky number plate.

JasonC32amg

The Evo's and STI's are brilliant cars but they do not compare to AMG. I've driven up to Virginia from south Florida in my C32, in my old WRX, and my recently departed Evo RS. There is nothing comparable to covering miles in an AMG. That said, when I got to Va, I'd much rather hit the backroads in an Evo or STI, it all depends on what you use the car for imho. In no way will the artificial 280hp jdm limit going away encroach on amg's turf...I kinda think the suggestion is silly. It only means the U.S. may get less watered down derivatives suchs was the wr1 sti.

noka

Is the engine really hand-made? After reading some info about AMG, at least for the C55 anyway, I thought that the guy whose name appears on the engine plaque is responsible for the engine manufacturing and personnaly oversees the various stages, and maybe even does some work manually. However, for the most part I thought the AMG engines were not hand-built but done on an assembly line much like other engines and that the signature/plaque are more of a marketing gimmick than enything else. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Rgds,
Norm

Chappy

Each AMG engine is hand-assembled by a Master Engine Builder. It is a three-year apprenticeship to reach that level.

cntlaw

Tks. I am glad to hear. In fact, I killed a STi today :v
Well, there is only one reason to drive an AMG in H.K. - "show off" lol

cntlaw

Well, okay. I was tempted to get the CN338 and they ask for 50,000

miroj

1 man 1 engine. No mass production.

noka

The question really wasn't about the relationship of man:engine being 1:1 but rather what exactly hand-built means and what they do to assemble the engine. My understanding, although I can't put my hands on where I read it, is that this person is responsible for the build process.

Rgds,
Norm

miroj

I have a photo somewhere of the engine being built on a stand by one person. Is it that hard to comprehend ?

People dont generally sign someone elses work.

noka

I think you are the one that is having a hard time comprehending.

If and when I find the reference, I will post it.

miroj

Yeah I must be the moron ......

Wiedermann

Mr. noka:

You need to visit the AMG plant where the cars are built, then you will know how AMGs are put together (try to listen to Mr. miroj, though it may be hard for you)

Wiedermann

noka

OK, I visit Germany at least once a year. Maybe I could visit, although I thought I heard AMG did not provide tours, only MB in Stuttgart (which I did visit). I will try to listen to "Mr. miroj", as painful as that might be after reading some of this other posts.

Rgds,
Norm

chitownC55

I saw a spot on the Chicago Autoshow on the local news here and they showed an AMG stand at the show that has two or three of the German technicians from AMG putting together engines by hand. There was a short interview and they were definitely the real deal, e.g. very strong german accents


I am planning on going to the show next week and will report more once I have checked out the stand. Looked very handbuilt to me.

In addition, I have seen a documentary on the AMG factory and it is indeed one person working on one engine.

I guess the difference of opinion on this thread may be hand built vs. hand made. Of course a lot of the parts are machine made, however the assembly is done by one person, by hand. Obviously using some power tools...

noka

OK, thanks, I'm convinced.

Rgds,
Norm

noka

Yes, I would agree and this thread would confirm it.
:p
Rgds,
Norm

05C55

Really!! I can buy a 35K mitsubishi that will kick my C55's ***? Where do I sign up?

Thats nutz man. There are a lot more factors involved then putting a big motor in a car or turning a fast lap. You complain about the ride in your C55 on the poor roads where you are. You ought to take one of those EVO's out and find out just how superior they are.

cntlaw

I agree all points made.
But price is a matter or we all end up in the SL65 thread instead of here