What year C43 is the best???
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'88 Porsche 951 / FJ Cruiser
What year C43 is the best???
As these cars are ultra rare.....finding one a ta dealer is VERY hard. I came across a PRISTINE black '98 car, didnt have MUCH time to look at it today because it was snowing outside but from what I could tell it looked VERY good, absolutely NO curbrash or discoloring on the rims, interior and leather looked almost BRAND new, car has 66,000 miles on it and they are asking $19,900. What do you guys think about her??? Also....did all C43 cars come with Xenon HIDs? or was it an option??
p.s. heres the link to the autotrader ad: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...g=en&cardist=0
p.s. heres the link to the autotrader ad: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...g=en&cardist=0
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91' 300e // 99 300e TD // 00' ML55 AMG
"The C43 AMG bows as a successor to the late C36. Featuring an AMG-modified 4.3-liter V8 with 302 hp, the new C43 promises a high-performance thrill ride"" I love it!
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'95 S500C, '96 C36, '86 190E, '72 280SEL
HID's were an option. You can find the number imported, by year, at the mbusa.com website. I see it is listed at a dealer, no harm not to try and haggle a beter deal.
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I am in the process of buying a 98 c43 now. Im in Australia, so my price is *way* over the top of yours. What I have found helpful is going through the books - in my case not for service histories (which I wouldnt understand) - but in this case I found a little receipt with the name of the previous owner. I telephoned the previous owner and asked about the car (helpful) and about how much he sold it to the dealer for (very helpful).
The one I am looking at has done 100k, the dealer was asking USD 30,000 for it, and it was sold to the dealership by the previous owner for USD 21,000.
Find that out
The one I am looking at has done 100k, the dealer was asking USD 30,000 for it, and it was sold to the dealership by the previous owner for USD 21,000.
Find that out
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2000s are the rarest. only a few were made that year (under 50 so i've heard) and they have the touch shift tranny. 1999s have been known to have more tranny issues out of all of them due to a more agressive software for the tranny. 1998s are not as agressive,but still have tranny issues....
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"only 25" , 2000 C43s were shipped to the US.
Teleaid system, shiftronic (automanual) tranny, AMG 5 star 170 wheels( ones on CLK AMGs). smaller antenna used on the 00> Mbs are the differences from 99 and 98. also parktronic was available in europe but none of the us version 00 C43s have this option.
Importance of the shiftronic tranny is debatable but you will notice asking prices on 2000 ones are much higher than 99s. (very close to 02 C32).
2 are listed on autotrader, have been there for half a year or so)
In my opinion they are the best C43s but I cant really say the Best value C43s(money/performance). Probably 99s are the best value now.
Teleaid system, shiftronic (automanual) tranny, AMG 5 star 170 wheels( ones on CLK AMGs). smaller antenna used on the 00> Mbs are the differences from 99 and 98. also parktronic was available in europe but none of the us version 00 C43s have this option.
Importance of the shiftronic tranny is debatable but you will notice asking prices on 2000 ones are much higher than 99s. (very close to 02 C32).
2 are listed on autotrader, have been there for half a year or so)
In my opinion they are the best C43s but I cant really say the Best value C43s(money/performance). Probably 99s are the best value now.
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I think the 2k trannies have upgraded internals.I've never had a problem with my tranny especially since dropping in the 5.5L TQ beast and chging the tranny fluid often.I have a 98
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1999 C43 is the best! Because that's what I am driving..... ![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
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Don't have a Mercedes right now...
Is it really true that the 2000 C43 trany was modified from the the 1998 and 1999's? I thought that it was just the interface (touch shift). It doesn't really make too much sense to me to design a new upgraded trany just to sell 40-50 cars in the US and probably another 50 or so to the rest of the world!
From what I read in the forums it sounds like most problems were created by bad maintenance (not changing the trany fluid as often as it needed). Also, even if the trany is not maintained properly, the problems usually come around 60k miles, which means that MB didn't know about the problem 2 years after lanching the 1998 C43 so why would they modify the 2000 model?
From what I read in the forums it sounds like most problems were created by bad maintenance (not changing the trany fluid as often as it needed). Also, even if the trany is not maintained properly, the problems usually come around 60k miles, which means that MB didn't know about the problem 2 years after lanching the 1998 C43 so why would they modify the 2000 model?
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Originally Posted by kchristos
Also, even if the trany is not maintained properly, the problems usually come around 60k miles, which means that MB didn't know about the problem 2 years after lanching the 1998 C43 so why would they modify the 2000 model?
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My speculation is that after 1999, AMG started making more models like the S55, CLK55, ML55, G55, ect. In order to keep them fairly reliable they beefed up the trannys. Thats my guess. Before 2000 there was only the C36, C43 and E55 in 1999
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Is it really true that the 2000 C43 trany was modified from the the 1998 and 1999's? I thought that it was just the interface (touch shift). It doesn't really make too much sense to me to design a new upgraded trany just to sell 40-50 cars in the US and probably another 50 or so to the rest of the world!
From what I read in the forums it sounds like most problems were created by bad maintenance (not changing the trany fluid as often as it needed). Also, even if the trany is not maintained properly, the problems usually come around 60k miles, which means that MB didn't know about the problem 2 years after lanching the 1998 C43 so why would they modify the 2000 model?
From what I read in the forums it sounds like most problems were created by bad maintenance (not changing the trany fluid as often as it needed). Also, even if the trany is not maintained properly, the problems usually come around 60k miles, which means that MB didn't know about the problem 2 years after lanching the 1998 C43 so why would they modify the 2000 model?
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Checking on the part numbers for the major components of the transmission for all three years, I found the following:
Transmission: 98 and 99 are the same: 202 270 39 00. 2000 is 202 270 52 00.
Torque Converter: 98 is 140 250 06 02. For 99 and 2000: 140 250 0902.
Valve Body: Same for all three years.
It appears that the difference in the 2000 transmission is limited to the changes to the external linkage to accomodate Touchshift, otherwise it's the same as the 99. I suspect this is the reason the trans part number changed, but the internals are essentially the same.
Mike
Transmission: 98 and 99 are the same: 202 270 39 00. 2000 is 202 270 52 00.
Torque Converter: 98 is 140 250 06 02. For 99 and 2000: 140 250 0902.
Valve Body: Same for all three years.
It appears that the difference in the 2000 transmission is limited to the changes to the external linkage to accomodate Touchshift, otherwise it's the same as the 99. I suspect this is the reason the trans part number changed, but the internals are essentially the same.
Mike
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Originally Posted by amgv8
Checking on the part numbers for the major components of the transmission for all three years, I found the following:
Transmission: 98 and 99 are the same: 202 270 39 00. 2000 is 202 270 52 00.
Torque Converter: 98 is 140 250 06 02. For 99 and 2000: 140 250 0902.
Valve Body: Same for all three years.
It appears that the difference in the 2000 transmission is limited to the changes to the external linkage to accomodate Touchshift, otherwise it's the same as the 99. I suspect this is the reason the trans part number changed, but the internals are essentially the same.
Mike
Transmission: 98 and 99 are the same: 202 270 39 00. 2000 is 202 270 52 00.
Torque Converter: 98 is 140 250 06 02. For 99 and 2000: 140 250 0902.
Valve Body: Same for all three years.
It appears that the difference in the 2000 transmission is limited to the changes to the external linkage to accomodate Touchshift, otherwise it's the same as the 99. I suspect this is the reason the trans part number changed, but the internals are essentially the same.
Mike
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were all options the same from 98-00 or did they change in the latter years by becoming stockie?, I know 2000's also had different wheels, I wanna say r170 someone check on that though, could be wrong...