Exhaust for C43 Amg
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I'm 99% sure that eismann (spelling??) makes one for the C43. There is a post in the W208 CLK section with a sound clip for someone's CLK430. It sounded pretty nasty. I would imagine the C43 may sound a tiny pit meaner.
I'd post the link but I couldn't find it.....
I'd post the link but I couldn't find it.....
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The Supersprint resonator can be found for about $450 and the muffler for about $525. From what I've seen the Eisenmann is about 25% more expensive.
The budget option is to remove the resonator if you're just after a deeper/louder sound. This takes a little work from your exhaust shop since it requires a Y pipe from the cats to the single muffler pipe, but any decent shop can manage it.
The budget option is to remove the resonator if you're just after a deeper/louder sound. This takes a little work from your exhaust shop since it requires a Y pipe from the cats to the single muffler pipe, but any decent shop can manage it.
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Originally Posted by VAamg
I am curious, what is the point of putting an aftermarket exhaust on a car already engineered for max performance? Do you gain much in HP?
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http://www.eisenhaus.com/ehprice.php...52&Submit.y=18 The Eisenmann is around $719
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You'll never get 40bhp out of chip tuning.
That said, there are other reasons for a new exhaust too. In addition to the nominal power increase there is weight reduction, appearance and sound quality.
The stock C43 exhaust is pretty efficient (Sebring IIRC) and is built to last. The primary drawbacks are that it's rather subdued in sound and is a bit heavy.
That said, there are other reasons for a new exhaust too. In addition to the nominal power increase there is weight reduction, appearance and sound quality.
The stock C43 exhaust is pretty efficient (Sebring IIRC) and is built to last. The primary drawbacks are that it's rather subdued in sound and is a bit heavy.
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1998 C43, White over two tone
Originally Posted by SDR
You'll never get 40bhp out of chip tuning.
That said, there are other reasons for a new exhaust too. In addition to the nominal power increase there is weight reduction, appearance and sound quality.
The stock C43 exhaust is pretty efficient (Sebring IIRC) and is built to last. The primary drawbacks are that it's rather subdued in sound and is a bit heavy.
That said, there are other reasons for a new exhaust too. In addition to the nominal power increase there is weight reduction, appearance and sound quality.
The stock C43 exhaust is pretty efficient (Sebring IIRC) and is built to last. The primary drawbacks are that it's rather subdued in sound and is a bit heavy.
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Oh I never said I wasn't happy with the stock appearance, but I've seen people do all sorts of things I find tacky - even to an AMG 
My personal opinion is that it isn't worth the money to put one of these systems on unless you are serious about track times. And in that case you're probably running an M3 anyway
My personal opinion is that it isn't worth the money to put one of these systems on unless you are serious about track times. And in that case you're probably running an M3 anyway
............the gas pedal is on the right.
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Agreed! Also the best feature of Mercedes' is quietness in my opinion.
Originally Posted by VAamg
Come on though, appearance is bit of a stretch, the twin AMG tips look damn good if you ask me.
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1998 C43, White over two tone
I thoroughly enjoy it's subtle throatiness during normal driving, or the way the house rumbles when I start her up in the garage and forget something and have to run back in. But, if you punch her, man, she does love to growl.
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Originally Posted by SDR
The Supersprint resonator can be found for about $450 and the muffler for about $525. From what I've seen the Eisenmann is about 25% more expensive.
The budget option is to remove the resonator if you're just after a deeper/louder sound. This takes a little work from your exhaust shop since it requires a Y pipe from the cats to the single muffler pipe, but any decent shop can manage it.
The budget option is to remove the resonator if you're just after a deeper/louder sound. This takes a little work from your exhaust shop since it requires a Y pipe from the cats to the single muffler pipe, but any decent shop can manage it.
Unbelievable!I waited too long and I need a new Reso section now.Looks like I'll have to go dual pipes from the high flow secondary cats back to a Y pipe which Flow Masters makes all the way and eliminate the reso for cheaper cost,more noise and perhaps a tad better performance!
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I had my resonator removed for $90 which included custom fab work (they built the Y and mandrel bent). The result was .. well.. almost unnoticable. It may help performance, but not enough that any SOTP dyno would pick up What I was happy about, however, was that it doesn't make it obnixiously loud. In fact, at ide it's barely noticable at all. The weight savings may be the biggest benefit and even that's got to be nominal.
What I was happy about, however, was that it doesn't make it obnixiously loud. In fact, at ide it's barely noticable at all. The weight savings may be the biggest benefit and even that's got to be nominal.
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Originally Posted by SDR
I had my resonator removed for $90 which included custom fab work (they built the Y and mandrel bent). The result was .. well.. almost unnoticable. It may help performance, but not enough that any SOTP dyno would pick up What I was happy about, however, was that it doesn't make it obnixiously loud. In fact, at ide it's barely noticable at all. The weight savings may be the biggest benefit and even that's got to be nominal.
What I was happy about, however, was that it doesn't make it obnixiously loud. In fact, at ide it's barely noticable at all. The weight savings may be the biggest benefit and even that's got to be nominal.
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Originally Posted by SDR
You'll never get 40bhp out of chip tuning.
ECU upgrade 24bhp increase
Exhaust system 4bhp increase
K & N High Performance air filters 4 bhp increase
Racing catalysts 20bhp increase
So the chip give a 24bhp increase and the rest another 28bhp - 52bhp in all.
I stress that I am not endorsing these figures, just quoting the supplier
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That's probably a reasonable estimate. The irony of the claims regarding chip tuning is that the more reputable tuners - Kleemann and RENNtech for example - claim more conservative numbers of 10-20 compared to the 20-40 claimed by the lesser known such as SpeedTuningUSA.
I'd really like to see some real life dynos on these. When I inquire locally I get replies which include phrases like "under optimal conditions" and "results may vary." Such responses make me lean more towards the $800+ solution from someone like PowerChip, Kleemann or RENNtech. Although not claiming as much of an increase it seems like realistic numbers rather than empty promises.
As an aside, I just added the K&Ns to my C43 with the resonator removed and it sure seems more responsive, but without pre and post dyno numbers it could just be the placebo effect
I'd really like to see some real life dynos on these. When I inquire locally I get replies which include phrases like "under optimal conditions" and "results may vary." Such responses make me lean more towards the $800+ solution from someone like PowerChip, Kleemann or RENNtech. Although not claiming as much of an increase it seems like realistic numbers rather than empty promises.
As an aside, I just added the K&Ns to my C43 with the resonator removed and it sure seems more responsive, but without pre and post dyno numbers it could just be the placebo effect
