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Differences btwn a 1998 and 1999 C43

Old Jan 8, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Differences btwn a 1998 and 1999 C43

Hello,

I'm new here and just want to say hi.

I'm planning on purchasing a 1999 C43 ASAP but first want to know the differences btwn the 98 and 99 model. I know the tape deck is differnt (Bose I think in 99's), what else?

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Old Jan 8, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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if I were you I'd just get an SL or a S55 or a CLK and don't eff around with this little entry level C class... but it's a great starter car.
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Old Jan 8, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Sir , get a real AMG before you go about making comments on a C43 which would smoke your SL500 anyday. When I get it I will be more than happy to smoke you or I mean race you, on video tape and then I will post it here on the board for all to see
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Old Jan 8, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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not much difference performance wise. i'd get one with xenon headlights ... saves the "oh i wish" later. can tell u about diff between c36 and c43 if u want...
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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Re: Differences btwn a 1998 and 1999 C43

Originally posted by 99SlvrC43
Hello,

I'm new here and just want to say hi.

I'm planning on purchasing a 1999 C43 ASAP but first want to know the differences btwn the 98 and 99 model. I know the tape deck is differnt (Bose I think in 99's), what else?
Yeah, I don't think there's much difference between the 1998s and 1999s. But I do know that the 2000 model comes with the "TouchShift" transmission...but its rare to find a 2000 C43. The C43 ///AMG is a beautiful car inside and out, you won't be disappointed. But yeah, try to find one with Xenons...they light up in a nice purplish color. Good luck.
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by SL500 AMG
Welcome to the Forum NEWBIE
if I were you I'd just get an SL or a S55 or a CLK and don't eff around with this little entry level C class... but it's a great starter car.
Welcome to livin' Large in High Class... Gitty Up...
If you think they should not eff around with an entry level, then why are you even posting in this section? Seems like it would be a waste of time for you.

Anyways, there are not really any changes, except a second year of production so maybe some of the bugs could have been worked out for you. Good luck and enjoy that ride.
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Difference between 1998 and 1999 C43

No one is answering the original question.

Here's the most comprehensive list I could come up with off the top of my head.

1999 radio has integrated phone controls.
1999 radio uses fibre optic CD changer.
1999 has heated seats standard.
1999 has anti-towing alarm standard.

1998 has older style radio, no phone integration, uses M-bus CD changer

If you're planning to upgrade to COMAND, it's much easier to do it with a 1999 car (if you want full integration). If you're planning on getting an integrated phone, you need the newer stereo because the older phones cannot be activated any longer.

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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Also, the 99's had ESP, not sure about the 98's (not that we really WANT that ESP thing kicking in very often!)
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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I found these two websites that talk about the 1998 and the 1999 C43. They don't come right out and say the differences but you'd have to read the page to know what was added/eliminated.

1998 C43 ///AMG

1999 C43 ///AMG
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Also, the 99's had ESP, not sure about the 98's (not that we really WANT that ESP thing kicking in very often!)
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All C43s have ESP.

http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container...c=2&category=1

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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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yeah what up with the dis from sl500. He says welcome newbie like he is some kinda mbworld god. I see he is a junior member with about 12 whole posts, wow. Hey u can race my 43 now or after i put my kleeman onit its your choice sl 500 , ha!
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by toamend
Also, the 99's had ESP, not sure about the 98's (not that we really WANT that ESP thing kicking in very often!)
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toamend, check out the events and gathering forum for our boston area meet. A lot of people are interested.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Will do AlBoston.

On another note, My C43 was just sideswiped by a delivery van (while parked, I wasn't even in the car). It's not really that bad, bu a complete pain in the *** and the guy in the van tried to flee (I got him though, thanks to a witness). Freakin Boston drivers!

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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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If I wanted Speed I'd get a 40k brand new Vette and smoke your a** So Please, think before you speak... Talk to me when you can afford a SL...
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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How is an SL 500 different from an SL 500 AMG??? Rims?? And before you make judgement on my car, don't. Just because your car depreciated 30 g's over the last year, do not hate eveyone else.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Cous i got enough change to buy 3 of your cars under my mattress right now so dont worry if u want a corvette ill buy it for u and and still smoke your ***. Get over yourself.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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Yeah. No one should be hating on this forum. All Mercedes' models are nice. It should be us against BMW, he he! As for you SL 500, my brother just picked up a 2003 SL 55 ////AMG so quit talking that mess or I'll have to have him join this forum just to school your ***. Oh yeah, and did I mention that our cars are REAL AMG models?
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Well spoken jbizzy, all im sayin is the 43 is like no other, and its great to see new owners of this great vehicle, i remember my first day in my car about 12 months ago, yahoo, so sl500 take your *****in elsewhere, this is obviously 43 country, and im out
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by SL500 AMG
Yes DumbDigga, I am GOD as far as you are concerned...
If I wanted Speed I'd get a 40k brand new Vette and smoke your a** So Please, think before you speak... Talk to me when you can afford a SL...

y didn't u get the real amg...the sl60 amg r129? u started the whole thing....the guy only wanted some info, and u come here diss'n everyone? or did u forget the c43 has front brakes from an sl600, not sl500? or that it has a hand built engine, by one mechanic? or was it there's no one to ***** about on the sl forum?
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 03:41 AM
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y didn't u get the real amg...the sl60 amg r129? u started the whole thing....the guy only wanted some info, and u come here diss'n everyone? or did u forget the c43 has front brakes from an sl600, not sl500? or that it has a hand built engine, by one mechanic? or was it there's no one to ***** about on the sl forum?
Umm, if you're going to hate on someone... get your facts correct!

C43 has front brakes from the E50 (later used in the E55/CLK55).

The SL500/SL600 brakes are pretty much identical, completely identical in later years.

I believe the C43 did not receive the "hand built" engine treatment that the C36 and x55 variants got.

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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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the c36 had front brakes from sl600 and rear from e430...figured they carried over to c43. oh well. at least each car was done by one mechanic after the basic w202 was sent to amg...even if that v8 was not hand messaged
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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actually...if u say the c43 has brakes pulled from an e50...the e50 had brakes pulled from an sl600 as well....the rear on e50 are from rear of sl600. donno where the fronts r...they're 13.1" on e50 and c43. 12.6" on front c36.

the v8 still got messaged at amg. normal output is 275 hp and 295 lb-ft. lighter camshafts (wtih more aggressive individually forged cam lobes), stronger valve springs, modified intake hardware, high-pressue lubrication...give output at 302 and 302
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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 04:04 AM
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actually...if u say the c43 has brakes pulled from an e50...the e50 had brakes pulled from an sl600 as well....the rear on e50 are from rear of sl600. donno where the fronts r...they're 13.1" on e50 and c43. 12.6" on front c36.
Please read what I wrote.

The C43 has front brakes from an E50. The E50 had a completely new front braking system (when it came out).

The rear brakes on a C43 are from a W210.

You wrote that the C36 had rear brakes from an E430, which it obviously did not when it came out in 1995 (because there was no E430 then). The rear brakes came from the W124 E420. Also, the C36 front brakes changed over the production run. There were various versions available, including two different sizes of rotors. All were 4-piston calipers on front.


the v8 still got messaged at amg. normal output is 275 hp and 295 lb-ft. lighter camshafts (wtih more aggressive individually forged cam lobes), stronger valve springs, modified intake hardware, high-pressue lubrication...give output at 302 and 302
This is what marketing claims. "Massaged at AMG" means that parts from AMG were fitted to the engine, but the engine was not built at AMG in Affalterbach.

However, if you really look at the engines and compare them with a stock 4.3l M113 (I have both engines in cars I own), and go through the part numbers... you can see the real differences.

1) Intake cams
2) Exhaust system
3) Intake AIRBOX ONLY (_not_ intake manifold, it is STOCK)
4) Computer programming

That's it. Yes, I do this research before writing about it. I also own a C43, so I have tried to learn a lot about it.

If they did more, it sure wasn't worth it for a measly 27 horsepower.

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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Something must be wrong with me, I just enjoy driving my C43 around, mashing the gas and stomping on the brakes- and I don't sweat which car these parts were sourced from.

Whatever the origin, can we agree that the sum of the parts in this car is a winning combination?
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Toemend ya got my vote!! We should call this forum the whine and cheese at c43.com
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