money-one

Sorry about the lack of updates but here is one



The begining of this year I was finalizing the swap. Squaring off the fueling and the trans issue when this happened.
I was driving home one saturday from work and I had a combo death strike on me.
First, unknown to me the balancer was working itself off the crank by vibrating the bolt loose.
(this has become well documented in the w211 55k section for being unbalanced when upsizing pulley)
Figured mine was good for the amount of miles I put on it and the road trips. Secondly the Trans. finally went.
It was very violent and then ended up going into 3rd and wouldnt come out. In the middle of the violent
upshifting the Balancer Key sheared off and the pulley galled the crankshaft snout.

It took me about 2 months to finally pull the engine and repair/painted




During that 2 month down time I decided to throw in the towl on this swap and decided on a second option.
After discussing this with my tunner we will be dropping in a 2jz engine matted up to a V160 getrag. That is his drag car



Everything is under way.

I'm on Supraforums now.

Jake

503C43 ////AMG

Am I understanding this correctly, you're planning on swapping a Supra motor in your C43?? Why choose that over a Blown 55 (i.e N/A M113 with Kleemann blower)? Wouldn't it be cheaper and MUCH less of a headache? I know blackbenz had 600+ HP and 700+ ft/lbs in his blown M113 before it blew up, are you aiming for more power than that?

Saaboteur

Aftermarket support is much better for the Japanese motors, and it'll likely be easier and cheaper to get more power out of the 2JZ as opposed to the M113K. There are a considerable number of off the shelf solutions, whether they be intake manifolds to engine management. It's been done before - there's a guy with a W210 with a 2JZ swap on one of the other forums.

money-one

You are correct on that point. It would be cheaper to put the 55k back in the car then drop maybe another 3K into her and she would be respectably done.
The engine has been ready to reinstall for at least a month, along with the rebuilt trans.

Horsepower is also a point I had to debate with my tunner. He harped on about useable street power and 600-700 HP is where he wanted me at.
I on the other hand will NOT settle for less than 1000HP. The money I will be comitting to this can not be justified with a mere 600hp.

Stock is not my thing and has no place in the cars I play in.

nd4spd13

money-one

He is on supraforums. I kept looking at his thread and was saying to myself why not.
Parts are cheaper and gains are bigger. All the internals have been ordered and the engine is being stripped for the machine shop.

Their are people at have advised me on getting another car for this but that AMG will be getting a 2JZ
Jake

503C43 ////AMG

He is on this forum as well (if it is the same guy we are talking about). He swapped a 2Jz-GTE into his W210 E420.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ap-sweeet.html

LOVE THIS PIC
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4...2638bj8cz2.jpg


Here is a W202 in Thailand with a 1Jz swap
The owner claims he paid 88,000 THB for everything (motor, accessories, swap) which is about $2800

Keep us posted as I'm sure we are all interested

DRBC43AMG

I imagine that a marriage between German and Japanese technology should give an interesting "offspring", but where has the AMG spirit gone I'm somewhat sad of all this.

cm60k

+100000000000000001>>>>>>>>

ZAYED,,

503C43 ////AMG

Keep in mind while not an AMG the 2Jz is German engineered. A German engineering firm, Johann A. Krause Maschinenfabrik GmbH, originally designed the 2JZ-GTE for the Toyota Aristo.

Worth the wait

Jake,

You nuts man.....

Good luck, you can make it happen!

DRBC43AMG

Ah-ha so that's much better and keeps with German engineering style. So it can be considered like a SUPER c36 with an in-line 6

503C43 ////AMG

More like a C30TT as the 2Jz is a twin turbo charged 3 liter I think most swap out the twin turbo and go in favor of a larger single turbo. This is part of the 1500+ HP puzzle.

Look at the size of this turbo :

The post says they have to use a 200 Shot Direct Port Nitrous Oxide to spool the turbine. It must take days to spool that monster up

money-one

This is true and the fact you can use the 2JZ engine mount / brackets to bolt it in lends credit to that.

blackbenzz

No way! That's crazy. Can't wait to see your Badass ride rolling around

money-one

nd4spd13..... consider yourself updated

503C43 ////AMG.... Yes its the same guy.
also the 1JZ is known for not producing any real good numbers. That is the reason most don't turn to this option.

DRBC43AMG..... This was not an easy decision and I felt if I went big it would make me feel better about changing power plants.
Just so you know I was also entertaining the idea of an LSx engine with a T56, but
the power output would of been in the same ball park as the Mercedes V8 so i scratched that idea.

I have always been a fan of the Toyota Supra but could not bring myself to getting one and then be pestered by every Civic, Integra, Evo and Sti that I drove by.
And be worried about the car anywhere I parked it.
This to me is a good trade off.

tri-star tech

The 1JZ swap would be awesome, but I think a turbo LSX engine would be awesome too.

Are you selling your old engine?

amg801

Great idea i think 2JZ is a great engine cant wait to see this project get under way, Please keep us posted on everything

dearlove

pm sent

DRBC43AMG

Well, I feel much better now knowing this,...

904C43

Wow.... Any updates?

904C43

Money one - so after reading the whole thread twice, will the stock c43 ecu work if all I want is just maybe 55k with light bolt ons? Will this run smooth like stock? Not interested in crazy power as I think this 11 sec setup would be more than enough for me. If not the c43 ecu any other way to plug and play? I think staying away from standalone would be a lot easier.

Thanks

Thanks

503C43 ////AMG

The C43 ECU will not work. The 55k motor is supercharged, the C43 ECU has no way to control the S/C

Sulaco

Dead thread revival time!

I believe he stated he used the stock C43 ECU with a MAF clamp.

This changes everything for C43 engine swappers around the world...

But would it be cheaper/easier to just go with the normal 5.4 swap and find a kleemann m113 sc?

money-one

The 2jzamg has been alive and kicking since April. Still being modded to hit the number in my head. Search #2jzamg you will find me.