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Hi gurus , anybody who did this at a shop, how many hours of labor / cost are we looking at for a swap? I went through the instructions and given enough time and the right tools along with patience it's possible to do this at home. Problem is I don't have a garage so it's out of the question at this time for me.
2006 E55 AMG/1996 C36 AMG/1999 C43/55 AMG/2021 Toyota Tundra Crew Max TRD Sport Premium
Originally Posted by bgalakazam
Hi gurus , anybody who did this at a shop, how many hours of labor / cost are we looking at for a swap? I went through the instructions and given enough time and the right tools along with patience it's possible to do this at home. Problem is I don't have a garage so it's out of the question at this time for me.
The price would depend on the quality of shop you choose. Personally I don't have a garage either but I'm doing it all myself. I have the 5.4 completely disassembled and just about ready to paint the block. It is enjoyable performing and completing the work on these cars. The finished product will be worth the time. Good luck!
From: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG + Ultima Can-Am sold)
Great news Before getting the engine in the 43, do everything that is needed because things will be easy with the engine out: sparkplugs, valve cover gaskets, waterpump perhaps?, crankshaft oil seal, etc., etc.
Great news Before getting the engine in the 43, do everything that is needed because things will be easy with the engine out: sparkplugs, valve cover gaskets, waterpump perhaps?, crankshaft oil seal, etc., etc.
Thank you for your feedback.
Am planning to replace most of the items you mentioned above, adding to that the Air filters and the timing belt as they are already in bad condition.
I'll try my best to photograph and document each step of the engine fix/swap.
Thank you for your feedback.
Am planning to replace most of the items you mentioned above, adding to that the Air filters and the timing belt as they are already in bad condition.
I'll try my best to photograph and document each step of the engine fix/swap.
From: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG + Ultima Can-Am sold)
Originally Posted by amer-abdulla_87
Thank you for your feedback.
Am planning to replace most of the items you mentioned above, adding to that the Air filters and the timing belt as they are already in bad condition.
I'll try my best to photograph and document each step of the engine fix/swap.
Timing belt?
You mean the ancillaries drive belt up front for the fan, water pump, alternator, A/C compressor, etc.
Excuse my lack of experience in this field but currently i seek your advise. The engine oil filter of the 5.5 noted to be in horrible condition, does this seem to be problem in future?
Also, am having hard time to remov the tranny cooler pipe which is stuck to the back side of the 43 engine. Is there any special tool which used to remove it?
This issue might be discussed previously but am not able to trace it.
I know AMG strongly specify the use of specific high grade filter for the high flow pumps in these engines,I would imagine its easy for indy's to chuck any old filter in there?
u need to order that pipe .. partsnumber is 112 990 03 78
u want to be sure its leakproof when installing it in the 5.5.one which has been used will fit less good. the cost is like $/€2.-
Agree with Dutch you should order a new nipple, they are cheap.
The original is glued in and I would do the same again. It is very easy to damage the mating surface when removing so do carefully, iirc I ended up punching mine in a little which collapses the seal,you can then pull out.
Also, always replace the seals on EGR pipes to manifold when disturbed!
u need to order that pipe .. partsnumber is 112 990 03 78
u want to be sure its leakproof when installing it in the 5.5.one which has been used will fit less good. the cost is like $/€2.-
Thanks Dutch and Pagz for the info, I've ordered for new pipe and it seems it would take more then 2 weeks to reach as its not available in stock.. so some how i managed to remove it with creating any damage or deformation
The Propshaft or Crankshaft mountings observed to be in bad condition, so i had to replace them. My C43 use to have harmonic vibration in whole body (not only in the steering) spicially at high speed, could this be the reason?
90% of the job is complete.. we'll update once the engine is in.
While you have the prop shaft out check all parts of the shafts for wear check locating bushes oval at diff, spline dry/worn, notchy/dry universal, dry/worn hanger or bearing play
The donuts are in very bad shape this would not help at all with vibration!
Finally, the engine swap was successfully done. I had some issues in the beginning which it was not related to the engine, but all solved now.. the engine effectively operate.
So i took the car for speed & acceleration test, i honestly haven't expect much from this 5.5 engine, but WOW ! the car become massively powerful & felt way smooth and faster then the 4.3 engine..
Am using the C43 ECU & transmission, and everything until now response well to the engine..
I am happy with the current gained power and i don't think i would tend to modify further..
I've put some effort & $$$ to make this successfully work & definitely i don't regret this swapping project at any point, thanks to ZAYED and his monster C55 for creating the motivation to do so
While testing the car, i had chance to do some drag racing from rolling start, one of the victims was the new A45 ///AMG, which ultimatily lost .. right now i'll be hunting the new VW Gulf VII-R and V8's american muscules .. lets see if this engine will impress me more
C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Originally Posted by PJmak
Ive pulled on some interesting cars but lately my car has been strugling against cars that i know i should blow out the park.
A45 is not slow...especially from zero to sixty. Do you think the 5.4 swapped c43 would beat it in a quarter mile?
maybe not. The C43 was not built for the quarter mile. But past the quarter mile you will eat any A45 amg's lunch!! I have done that to many an S4 and RS4 Audi which is faster than the 4 cylinder AMG.
A modded old V6 TT S4 can be a serious challenge though ,they are very fast stage 3 and up .
C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Originally Posted by amer-abdulla_87
Finally, the engine swap was successfully done. I had some issues in the beginning which it was not related to the engine, but all solved now.. the engine effectively operate.
So i took the car for speed & acceleration test, i honestly haven't expect much from this 5.5 engine, but WOW ! the car become massively powerful & felt way smooth and faster then the 4.3 engine..
Am using the C43 ECU & transmission, and everything until now response well to the engine..
I am happy with the current gained power and i don't think i would tend to modify further..
I've put some effort & $$$ to make this successfully work & definitely i don't regret this swapping project at any point, thanks to ZAYED and his monster C55 for creating the motivation to do so
While testing the car, i had chance to do some drag racing from rolling start, one of the victims was the new A45 ///AMG, which ultimatily lost .. right now i'll be hunting the new VW Gulf VII-R and V8's american muscules .. lets see if this engine will impress me more
The more you drive her the more you'll appreciate the new found heart transplant!!
When using a transmission from a different car(for example a 2001 e55)....is it normally just plug and play type of deal or is there anything that needs to be done to the ecu or trany?
What would be the proper procedure when doing a trany transplant from a newer model amg?
Hi PJ, my guy cleared any codes and did a full TCU reset before I got the car back. The shifts are firm and crisp and I'm very happy. What's your location? I may have a guy for you to see if you're close enough.
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, anybody who did this at a shop, how many hours of labor / cost are we looking at for a swap? I went through the instructions and given enough time and the right tools along with patience it's possible to do this at home. Problem is I don't have a garage so it's out of the question at this time for me.
! the car become massively powerful & felt way smooth and faster then the 4.3 engine..
