C36 AMG, C43 AMG (W202) 1995 - 2000

C/D article: Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 10-04-2010, 11:31 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
503C43 ////AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: PDX
Posts: 4,433
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
1999 C43, 2008 P30 E63, 2014 SQ5, 2024 Model Y Performance
C/D article: Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept.

Found this article thought it was pretty informative....

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...sted-tech_dept
Old 10-05-2010, 02:05 AM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MarcusF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SCV SoCal
Posts: 3,784
Received 80 Likes on 64 Posts
2002 CLK430
This was published by magazines decades ago when 911s first started using 16's. Fuchs (Porsche's wheel manufacturer) are so light that it didn't matter. A 15x7 Fuchs weighs 12 pounds. A 15x8 weighs 14. A 16x7 Fuchs weighs 18 pounds, while the 16x8 weighs 19. On a 911, the added traction was worth the few extra pounds. Besides, the wheel size increase came with the (then new) more powerful 3.0 liter engine. The increased power more than made up for the wheel weight.

Just slapping 20's a <enter car name here> will result in a slower vehicle, that may have more traction.
Old 10-06-2010, 02:48 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,691
Received 262 Likes on 222 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
I liked that article and starts getting you thinking.... My upgrade to 18" will be the max depending on whether I can find some wheels which are the same weight as the AMG II's in 17" or lighter. Perhaps BBS LM's or OZ's
Old 10-06-2010, 03:07 AM
  #4  
Member
 
CatButt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Erff
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C43
Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
I liked that article and starts getting you thinking.... My upgrade to 18" will be the max depending on whether I can find some wheels which are the same weight as the AMG II's in 17" or lighter. Perhaps BBS LM's or OZ's
I think you are smart...look at the wheels I just put on my car. Rial Nogaro...same weight as OZ Superleggera. Having owned a set of 19s (albeit heavy reps) I am convinced that 18s are likely the perfect compromise.
Old 10-06-2010, 03:13 AM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,691
Received 262 Likes on 222 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Eh, sorry I'm still asleep this morning. Where can I see some pics of your car and the wheels?

Woke up and looked around and found a pic in another thread Those Rials look very nice and looking in the homologation papers, I saw that the wheel in 18" weighs just over 7kg. That IS very light Have to find out regarding the price now

Last edited by DRBC43AMG; 10-06-2010 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Found the info requested
Old 10-06-2010, 04:38 AM
  #6  
Member
 
CatButt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Erff
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C43
Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Eh, sorry I'm still asleep this morning. Where can I see some pics of your car and the wheels?

Woke up and looked around and found a pic in another thread Those Rials look very nice and looking in the homologation papers, I saw that the wheel in 18" weighs just over 7kg. That IS very light Have to find out regarding the price now
Quickie...
Old 10-06-2010, 04:40 AM
  #7  
Member
 
CatButt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Erff
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C43
I got them for $99 ea for the rears and $179 ea for the fronts. Tire Rack was running a special. They are really nice looking wheels. I am not a huge fan of faux bolts on wheels, but for the price and the weight I could not resist.
Old 10-06-2010, 04:44 AM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,691
Received 262 Likes on 222 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Talk about a deal. That's fantastic. Great job IMO but the cost of shipping over the ocean and taxes would be.... a touch expensive I imagine. Will check how much I can get them locally. Can you give the the size references including ET. Thanks
Old 10-06-2010, 04:59 AM
  #9  
Member
 
CatButt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Erff
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C43
Rear are 18x9 et30 Frts are 18x8 and I am not sure of the et...sorry. I am sure you're right about the shipping...I bet you can find them on your side of the pond since they are made there.
Old 10-06-2010, 05:23 AM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,691
Received 262 Likes on 222 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Originally Posted by CatButt
Rear are 18x9 et30 Frts are 18x8 and I am not sure of the et...sorry. I am sure you're right about the shipping...I bet you can find them on your side of the pond since they are made there.
Thanks. The front ET for the 18x8 is 35mm according to Rial site catalogue
Old 10-09-2010, 06:00 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Jovsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2000 C230 Kompressor Sport
Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
Found this article thought it was pretty informative....

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...sted-tech_dept

Hey Jason! How are you doing bro? So, after reading this article, are you contemplating on downgrading to 18"s?
Old 10-09-2010, 08:25 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
503C43 ////AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: PDX
Posts: 4,433
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
1999 C43, 2008 P30 E63, 2014 SQ5, 2024 Model Y Performance
Originally Posted by Jovsky
Hey Jason! How are you doing bro? So, after reading this article, are you contemplating on downgrading to 18"s?
I'm on the fence... I think the 19's look great but the ride is a bit rough. If I could do it all over again I would get 18's. I have been looking around but if I do swap out for 18's it won't be for a while .
Old 10-09-2010, 11:23 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Jovsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2000 C230 Kompressor Sport
Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
I'm on the fence... I think the 19's look great but the ride is a bit rough. If I could do it all over again I would get 18's. I have been looking around but if I do swap out for 18's it won't be for a while .
Don't get me wrong. Your 19"s look great on your car but the article presents a valid argument though. I'd say keep your 19"s for a while till you get tired of them.
Old 12-15-2010, 09:05 AM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,691
Received 262 Likes on 222 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Originally Posted by CatButt
I got them for $99 ea for the rears and $179 ea for the fronts. Tire Rack was running a special. They are really nice looking wheels. I am not a huge fan of faux bolts on wheels, but for the price and the weight I could not resist.
Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Talk about a deal. That's fantastic. Great job IMO but the cost of shipping over the ocean and taxes would be.... a touch expensive I imagine. Will check how much I can get them locally. Can you give the the size references including ET. Thanks
After some research, I have been quoted the price of the Nogaro wheels in Switzerland through the local dealer. Fronts are CHF408 and rears CHF418, which is nearly the same thing in $$ as CHF and $ are close to parity these days. Nearly had a heart attack as you can imagine. Guess I'll shop around and see if I can get a better deal elsewhere, but importing them could be expensive (transport and taxes).
Old 12-15-2010, 11:35 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Outlawlatemodel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Midwest
Posts: 308
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2006 c230
The original reason to move from 15 inch wheels to 17-18 is the smaller sidewall creates more stability with no tire flex/rollover live a 15 does,
Old 12-15-2010, 01:24 PM
  #16  
Member
 
CatButt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Erff
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C43
Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
After some research, I have been quoted the price of the Nogaro wheels in Switzerland through the local dealer. Fronts are CHF408 and rears CHF418, which is nearly the same thing in $$ as CHF and $ are close to parity these days. Nearly had a heart attack as you can imagine. Guess I'll shop around and see if I can get a better deal elsewhere, but importing them could be expensive (transport and taxes).
I am sure you can get some good deals on used wheels. There is a new company here and they are in Europe somewhere...I bet if you contact them they will do their best to help you out. I am not in any way affiliated with them, but I love their wheels and they seem to priced pretty fair. Check them out... www.rotiform.com

They have some PERFECT wheels for our cars...they seem very German-centric as far as fitments go.

Good Luck!
Old 12-15-2010, 01:52 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Outlawlatemodel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Midwest
Posts: 308
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2006 c230
i have a set of 20 inch st4 wheels forsale

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: C/D article: Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:45 AM.