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Old 12-26-2010, 03:35 AM
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i can feel it on the top end

now back on topic!! sorry to the op for jacking
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ughhh this thread makes me really miss my old C43....or at least want to get the 190e 5.6 finished soon!
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
Oh I understand the sound the M113 can produce, for fun when I had my secondary cats removed I fired her up with nothing but the primarys connected and she sounded like an american muscle car!!! If i didn't know any better I would of thought I had a big block V8 sitting under the hood of my C43. It was such a VICIOUS sound I would love to have this sound but am concerned about the possible power loss... Perhaps an expert (Marcus I am looking in your direction) can chime in here about the possibility of power loss when going to straight pipes.
I'm no expert in exhaust design. That would take someone with a much better understanding of mechanical engineering and fluid flow. I do know a little about straight pipe though.

As long as the cat replacement pipe is the same diameter as the pipe it connects to (in a perfect situation), there should not be a noticeable loss. Why should straight pipe cause any loss? Because *good* high flow catalytic converters heat the exhaust without creating low pressure zones. That's important because hot exhaust flows faster than cold exhaust (think about the four states of matter). If the cat is worn and/or a bad design, the straight pipe will perform better.
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ughhh this thread makes me really miss my old C43....or at least want to get the 190e 5.6 finished soon!

Can't wait to see that 190 when it's finished!
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I'm no expert in exhaust design. That would take someone with a much better understanding of mechanical engineering and fluid flow. I do know a little about straight pipe though.

As long as the cat replacement pipe is the same diameter as the pipe it connects to (in a perfect situation), there should not be a noticeable loss. Why should straight pipe cause any loss? Because *good* high flow catalytic converters heat the exhaust without creating low pressure zones. That's important because hot exhaust flows faster than cold exhaust (think about the four states of matter). If the cat is worn and/or a bad design, the straight pipe will perform better.
I knew you would be able to answer my question, thanks
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Can anyone explain why the X pipe is better then just using a straight pipe?
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It improves scavenging. In an exhaust, you want velocity. Exhaust pulses that bounce around (the reason why bigger tubing is not necessarily better) don’t exit as quickly as they could if they left in an orderly fashion. One reason they bounce around is because of the uneven nature they are released (V12’s are smoother than 8s, which are smoother than 6s, which are smoother than 4s, 2s, and thumpers are a mess). An x-pipe forces the exhaust banks to intersect, smoothing out the flow. Think of it as two little streams. The speed of the water increases as the water intersects. The only difference is the exhaust has two exits.
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