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Old 06-01-2011, 08:39 PM
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I thought our cars couldn't do this??? Pix inside.

Shouldnt you need an LSD to lay down these tracks??? First time ive ever shut off the traction control...


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Yes, it is a myth that you MUST ABSOLUTELY have a mechanical LSD to do a 2 wheel burn out. It's amazing how many people on this (and other) forums buy into this myth. I've done this on my W203 C55 too, and I also don't have a mechanical LSD (just the electronic pseudo LSD when I press the "ESP off" button).

If both wheels have similar traction, then both wheels will spin and lay down 2 strips of rubber. If one wheel has noticably less traction than the other, then the open differential will direct more power to the one with less traction, causing one tire spinning excessively more than the other and then laying down potentially one strip of rubber. Modern electronic traction control systems may minimize this to an extent.
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AUSTIN WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??!?!?!!!?!?!?!

Looks like you were doing some burnouts in a neighborhood

P.S. WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TO TURN THE ESP OFF????
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lol my traction control is permanently off. and the best part is, i don't know why.

Glad to see AH is alive and kickin'. Nice tracks!
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Originally Posted by thepinoc
lol my traction control is permanently off. and the best part is, i don't know why.

Glad to see AH is alive and kickin'. Nice tracks!
your ESP: did you remove the fuse or do you have a glitch somewhere in the ECU?

If your MAF and o2 sensors are healthy you will notice how powerful your car is when you stomp the axxelerator!
my C43 has worn out rear tires and I constantly get the ESP to flash when I do a hard axxeleration from stand still.
I love my C43 being sooooooo torqey.
The MGM lion roars from my tailpipes when I hit the axxelerator!
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Short answer: You are correct, an open diff spins only one tire. Texans get to see this all day long, as pickup truck drivers gun it while making a right turn.

Longer answer: The ESP is not completely disabled even when "off." It won't cut the throttle on you, but still applies brake force to a spinning wheel. With an open differential, braking one wheel causes torque to be sent to the other, unbraked wheel. On your Benz, this causes torque to be more or less evenly applied to both rear wheels. Hence both spin. You may even be able to feel the brake pulsing and modulating the torque to each rear wheel.
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I think the white van did it....


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these cars would be so awesome with a factory 6spd manual and lsd option..
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Originally Posted by kowalski

If your MAF and o2 sensors are healthy you will notice how powerful your car is when you stomp the axxelerator!
Those are the two things that need replacing on my car right now!
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Originally Posted by ECTurboGSX
I think the white van did it....


Yup, that van has a 63 motor coupled with a quaife LSD and eats tires for breakfast
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Yes im alive. LOL Ive been so busy here in the south with two jobs and school. And yes that little orange triangle gets a hell of a work out but this was the first time I tried with it off... I was pretty shocked at the out come.
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AH, looks like a sweet burnout! If you ever make it to LA you'll have fun - traffic does suck at times, but the highways just book - I'm regularly cruising the fast lane at 80 to 85 - hit triple digits more than I should! Then there's Mulholland Hwy which is a blast! Anyhow, glad to hear all is well and keep those burnouts going!
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Yes im alive. LOL Ive been so busy here in the south with two jobs and school. And yes that little orange triangle gets a hell of a work out but this was the first time I tried with it off... I was pretty shocked at the out come.
Welcome back! Still got some tyres after the burn out?
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Hey!! Austin! It's been a long time!!!
BTW: did anyone get the wavetrac lsd yet???
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That picture looks so nice with 35mph sign in the background
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Austin, how is your camber on the rear wheels? Looking at your tracks it looks like you are getting more contact towards the inside of the rim (i.e negative camber)
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Hey!! Austin! It's been a long time!!!
BTW: did anyone get the wavetrac lsd yet???

Ask SLK, he was the one who was going to get one. I am interested in the final result as well
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Originally Posted by hoontastic
these cars would be so awesome with a factory 6spd manual and lsd option..
I think a 722.9 with a wet clutch would be better or an SLS transaxle (No human can shift as fast as that thing can)
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Oh yeah, they lean in pretty bad with no spacer or rear camber kit. Haven't seen anything too bad with the wear yet but im sure I will.



Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
Austin, how is your camber on the rear wheels? Looking at your tracks it looks like you are getting more contact towards the inside of the rim (i.e negative camber)

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