Base line dyno run for C43
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http://www.evosport.com/
They cost $350 and they are claiming you will drop around 75° in temp
We will see
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
Since the dynos are free, you can make one pass with just the ESP off, and then another with the fuse out. Then you can assuredly state whether it makes any difference. And then with/without the AC on. Northstar engines used to produce more HP with the AC engaged. They also used to fail smog with the AC on.
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I have driven the C32 W203 and i swear when the car is put in DYNO mode which means no Electronic safety support even ABS the car felt wild like it had more torque in first and second, third was the same in esp off or dyno mode. I usually suspect its the ETS that makes us feel like the car has reduced torque in esp off. but would be nice to confirm if pulling a fuse makes more power!!!
I plan on running the first 2 passes with the ESP turned off and the 3rd pass with the fuse pulled.
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Just got back from the dyno run, here are the results:
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/ScreenHunter_18Jul011735.gif)
There are only 2 runs on there as they had sent me the wrong run (I had them send it to me through email), the 3rd run was 239HP/230TQ. So it looks like I am putting down what is to be expected at the rear wheel as the only power mods I have are secondary cat and resonator delete.
TEMP = 88°
HUMIDITY = 11%
Unfortunately I forgot to bring my camera so all I have are a couple pics from my Iphone and I forgot to pull the ESP fuse for the 3rd run![Frown](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
My car on the Dyno
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/C43onthedyno001.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/C43onthedyno002.jpg)
Here are some more pics of cars that were @ PSI
SRT-10 VIPER, Z06 Corvette, and GT-R
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI001.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI006.jpg)
FULLY CUSTOM CHEVELLE SS
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI002.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI003.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI004.jpg)
Ducati 1098
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI005.jpg)
Now that the baseline is out of the way I am just waiting for my Evosport UD pulley kit to arrive and then after install it's back to the dyno
I will post results ASAP, I am expecting to have the 2nd dyno run in by the end of July.
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/ScreenHunter_18Jul011735.gif)
There are only 2 runs on there as they had sent me the wrong run (I had them send it to me through email), the 3rd run was 239HP/230TQ. So it looks like I am putting down what is to be expected at the rear wheel as the only power mods I have are secondary cat and resonator delete.
TEMP = 88°
HUMIDITY = 11%
Unfortunately I forgot to bring my camera so all I have are a couple pics from my Iphone and I forgot to pull the ESP fuse for the 3rd run
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My car on the Dyno
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/C43onthedyno001.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Dyno%20runs/C43onthedyno002.jpg)
Here are some more pics of cars that were @ PSI
SRT-10 VIPER, Z06 Corvette, and GT-R
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI001.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI006.jpg)
FULLY CUSTOM CHEVELLE SS
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI002.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI003.jpg)
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI004.jpg)
Ducati 1098
![](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc470/Jayo503/Cars%20at%20PSI/CarsatPSI005.jpg)
Now that the baseline is out of the way I am just waiting for my Evosport UD pulley kit to arrive and then after install it's back to the dyno
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Last edited by 503C43 ////AMG; 07-01-2011 at 09:49 PM.
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Good run Jason!!
Did you tell them to put the actual density altitude from the near by airport??? I think its not going to make huge difference but since youre doing base run and comparison between mods, I think its a good idea to set the standard atmopehric condition each time you do the dyno run : )
If you need to know which Airport to use just let me know the address of the dyno place and I'll give you the phone number for automated weather reporting for the airport which will give temp/dewpoit, pressure, density altitude, sky conditions, etc.
If you have an iphone you can download free apps like 'Aeroweather' : ) then just search the airport using ICAO airport identifier (like KJFK for JFK in NY and KLAX for LA international) or by city. These apps will give you current temps, density altitudes, etc as well.
Which dyno did they use??
Did you tell them to put the actual density altitude from the near by airport??? I think its not going to make huge difference but since youre doing base run and comparison between mods, I think its a good idea to set the standard atmopehric condition each time you do the dyno run : )
If you need to know which Airport to use just let me know the address of the dyno place and I'll give you the phone number for automated weather reporting for the airport which will give temp/dewpoit, pressure, density altitude, sky conditions, etc.
If you have an iphone you can download free apps like 'Aeroweather' : ) then just search the airport using ICAO airport identifier (like KJFK for JFK in NY and KLAX for LA international) or by city. These apps will give you current temps, density altitudes, etc as well.
Which dyno did they use??
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Good run Jason!!
Did you tell them to put the actual density altitude from the near by airport??? I think its not going to make huge difference but since youre doing base run and comparison between mods, I think its a good idea to set the standard atmopehric condition each time you do the dyno run : )
If you need to know which Airport to use just let me know the address of the dyno place and I'll give you the phone number for automated weather reporting for the airport which will give temp/dewpoit, pressure, density altitude, sky conditions, etc.
If you have an iphone you can download free apps like 'Aeroweather' : ) then just search the airport using ICAO airport identifier (like KJFK for JFK in NY and KLAX for LA international) or by city. These apps will give you current temps, density altitudes, etc as well.
Which dyno did they use??
Did you tell them to put the actual density altitude from the near by airport??? I think its not going to make huge difference but since youre doing base run and comparison between mods, I think its a good idea to set the standard atmopehric condition each time you do the dyno run : )
If you need to know which Airport to use just let me know the address of the dyno place and I'll give you the phone number for automated weather reporting for the airport which will give temp/dewpoit, pressure, density altitude, sky conditions, etc.
If you have an iphone you can download free apps like 'Aeroweather' : ) then just search the airport using ICAO airport identifier (like KJFK for JFK in NY and KLAX for LA international) or by city. These apps will give you current temps, density altitudes, etc as well.
Which dyno did they use??
I can't wait to see the next few dyno runs. I am sure the gains (if any) from the first 2 "stages" won't be that significant but the headers, x pipe, and high flow cats should DEFINITELY be significant as well as the ECU tune after all of these parts have been installed. Either way I will be the guinea pig for the rest of you guys and then these claims can either be proven or put to rest
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There are 2 runs posted:
run #1 = 240HP/231 ft/lbs torque
run#2 = 236HP/228 ft/lbs torque
I had a 3rd run that is not posted as I am waiting for them to email it to me but the third run was 239HP/230 ft/lbs torque
The only power mods I have are secondary cat delete and resonator delete, everything else is stock (for now
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Last edited by 503C43 ////AMG; 07-03-2011 at 11:12 AM.
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Hi J.
Yeah I didn't know how to read the chart, which color lines to look for red or blue?
Your car shows maximum of 240HP??
Where are the other 66 ponies??
Something wrong with your car?
240 HP is different to 306 HP = 66 HP missing??
Yeah I didn't know how to read the chart, which color lines to look for red or blue?
Your car shows maximum of 240HP??
Where are the other 66 ponies??
Something wrong with your car?
240 HP is different to 306 HP = 66 HP missing??
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These numbers are at the rear wheel not the crank. When stating that the C43 has 302 HP that is at the crank. That power is reduced through drive train loss (i.e. tranny, diff, etc...) and the 240 HP is what I am putting down to the ground, a real world number rather than a number that means nothing such as the crank HP that the manufacturers use to sell cars.
240 HP is right around what a stock C43 should put down, I have seen as low as 227HP/213 ft/lbs TQ on another C43 but you have to take into account that they may have been using a different dyno, DA, temps, etc...
Either way these are just baseline numbers that I am going to use to track the gains from the mods I am installing.
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no prob mate.
I didn' figure out the chart at the beginning.
thanx for explaining für die dumme schwede![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
livin' under a rock might be comfortable, I have to try it sometimes?![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
so if you had a bad MAF for instance you would have got less than 240 HP right?
I didn' figure out the chart at the beginning.
thanx for explaining für die dumme schwede
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livin' under a rock might be comfortable, I have to try it sometimes?
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so if you had a bad MAF for instance you would have got less than 240 HP right?
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As far as the HP, if anything was wrong with my car I should have got less than 240 HP
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Just received confirmation that my Evosport UD pulley kit has shipped and should be here in 3 days. I will have it installed and another dyno run by the end of July.
Evosport is claiming 8+ RWHP from the UD pulley kit as confirmed by me through a PM to Brad @ evosport
"Will your pulley kit work on the 4.2 M113 in a 1999 C43 AMG?
If so what numbers at the rear wheel can I expect to see?
Thanks
Jason
Jason,
Yes, it will work. You will see 8+ rear wheel HP gain.
Thanks
Brad"
The main reason I bought this kit was because everyone who installed it has said that they rev much quicker which is important for the C43 as it really isn't that impressive below 3000 RPM so the quicker I can get into the meat of the power band the better, the 8+ RWHP is just an added bonus
Evosport is claiming 8+ RWHP from the UD pulley kit as confirmed by me through a PM to Brad @ evosport
"Will your pulley kit work on the 4.2 M113 in a 1999 C43 AMG?
If so what numbers at the rear wheel can I expect to see?
Thanks
Jason
Jason,
Yes, it will work. You will see 8+ rear wheel HP gain.
Thanks
Brad"
The main reason I bought this kit was because everyone who installed it has said that they rev much quicker which is important for the C43 as it really isn't that impressive below 3000 RPM so the quicker I can get into the meat of the power band the better, the 8+ RWHP is just an added bonus
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UPDATE:
Evosport UD pulley kit is scheduled to arrive on Friday, I will post pics ASAP.
Evosport UD pulley kit is scheduled to arrive on Friday, I will post pics ASAP.
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As usual the delivery came while I was at work and my wife had just stepped out, I am going to see if I can pick them up tomorrow.
EDIT:
Just had UPS set the package aside and I will have my wife pick it up tomorrow as I won't get off work before they close, I will post pics tomorrow.
EDIT:
Just had UPS set the package aside and I will have my wife pick it up tomorrow as I won't get off work before they close, I will post pics tomorrow.
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Picked up my Evosport UD pulley kit from UPS today and as promised here is a pic
![Base line dyno run for C43-evosport-ud-pulley-kit.jpg](https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c36-amg-c43-amg-w202/214102d1542232948t-base-line-dyno-run-c43-evosport-ud-pulley-kit.jpg)
The whole kit was $375 + $25 for shipping.
The pulleys appear to be high quality and are very light weight. I am going to weigh the kit and the stock components and will post the results. I plan on having these installed in the next 2 weeks and then back on the dyno. I'm just waiting for my calipers so I can be finished with that project before I start another.
![Base line dyno run for C43-evosport-ud-pulley-kit.jpg](https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c36-amg-c43-amg-w202/214102d1542232948t-base-line-dyno-run-c43-evosport-ud-pulley-kit.jpg)
The whole kit was $375 + $25 for shipping.
The pulleys appear to be high quality and are very light weight. I am going to weigh the kit and the stock components and will post the results. I plan on having these installed in the next 2 weeks and then back on the dyno. I'm just waiting for my calipers so I can be finished with that project before I start another.
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Picked up my Evosport UD pulley kit from UPS today and as promised here is a pic
Attachment 214102
The whole kit was $375 + $25 for shipping.
The pulleys appear to be high quality and are very light weight. I am going to weigh the kit and the stock components and will post the results. I plan on having these installed in the next 2 weeks and then back on the dyno. I'm just waiting for my calipers so I can be finished with that project before I start another.
Attachment 214102
The whole kit was $375 + $25 for shipping.
The pulleys appear to be high quality and are very light weight. I am going to weigh the kit and the stock components and will post the results. I plan on having these installed in the next 2 weeks and then back on the dyno. I'm just waiting for my calipers so I can be finished with that project before I start another.
did you get the correct serpentine belt for your car?
I recently bought a new Conti belt and the parts number was # 6PK2390
Your's showing another parts number, check with seller if you got the correct belt??
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The serp belt came with the kit which was designed for an M113 engine so I am pretty sure it is the right one.
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The 6PK2390 Contitech belt is it only designed for the standard pulley on M113 engines and not for performance pulleys?
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The 6PK2390 Contitech belt is it only designed for the standard pulley on M113 engines and not for performance pulleys?
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Jason, Measure closely your pulleys as they could be the same size as OE
which would explain the # of the belt Kowalski is talking about. Could be that Evo used a standard belt as a "model" when doing the picture
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UPDATE:
In the middle of scheduling the UD pulley kit install. My indy is telling me they are booked 2 weeks out so it may a little longer than I was planning but I will be posting results as soon as I get them.
In the middle of scheduling the UD pulley kit install. My indy is telling me they are booked 2 weeks out so it may a little longer than I was planning but I will be posting results as soon as I get them.