Base line dyno run for C43
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UPDATE:
Just scheduled the UD pulley kit install for 8/19. While my car is there I am going to have them flush the brake fluid and then refill with Castrol SRF brake fluid.
I am going to try and schedule the dyno the following week and will post results ASAP.
I was planning on having my "stage 1" (UD pulley kit) installed and dyno'd by the end of July but my brake fiasco kind of put a damper on that. I was planning on having my "stage 2" (phenolic spacers) installed and dyno'd by the end of August but since stage 1 has been pushed back so has stage 2. I should have stage 2 installed and dyno'd by mid September at the latest
Just scheduled the UD pulley kit install for 8/19. While my car is there I am going to have them flush the brake fluid and then refill with Castrol SRF brake fluid.
I am going to try and schedule the dyno the following week and will post results ASAP.
I was planning on having my "stage 1" (UD pulley kit) installed and dyno'd by the end of July but my brake fiasco kind of put a damper on that. I was planning on having my "stage 2" (phenolic spacers) installed and dyno'd by the end of August but since stage 1 has been pushed back so has stage 2. I should have stage 2 installed and dyno'd by mid September at the latest
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Hi Jason, Good thinking for the Castrol SRF fluid. Only draw back however is that this specific fluid absorbs humidity fast and needs a good bleed more often than other stuff available. Talking of my racing days, but then we bled the brakes after practice sessions and the race.
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Hi Jason, Good thinking for the Castrol SRF fluid. Only draw back however is that this specific fluid absorbs humidity fast and needs a good bleed more often than other stuff available. Talking of my racing days, but then we bled the brakes after practice sessions and the race.
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I do. I rotate between ATE Super Blue and Type 200. They’re the same stuff but one has dye. Both of them have a boiling point that is 122 degrees above DOT 4 specifications. Do you do track days? If so, you may want to consider flushing the system after every other event. That’s where rotating comes in handy. Once you see the fluid in the corner you’re working on change from blue to gold, or gold to blue, you know you’re done on that corner. If you don’t do track days, every other year works in SoCal. Being in the great Northwest, maybe you want to do it once a year.
Here's a little more info on brake fluid. Although I should spice up the page with a photo . . . . .
Here's a little more info on brake fluid. Although I should spice up the page with a photo . . . . .
![](http://image.highperformancepontiac.com/f/tech/hppp_1101_brake_rotor_guide/35015070+pinline_medium/hppp_1101_01+brake_rotor_guide.jpg)
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I do. I rotate between ATE Super Blue and Type 200. They’re the same stuff but one has dye. Both of them have a boiling point that is 122 degrees above DOT 4 specifications. Do you do track days? If so, you may want to consider flushing the system after every other event. That’s where rotating comes in handy. Once you see the fluid in the corner you’re working on change from blue to gold, or gold to blue, you know you’re done on that corner. If you don’t do track days, every other year works in SoCal. Being in the great Northwest, maybe you want to do it once a year.
Here's a little more info on brake fluid. Although I should spice up the page with a photo . . . . .
![](http://image.highperformancepontiac.com/f/tech/hppp_1101_brake_rotor_guide/35015070+pinline_medium/hppp_1101_01+brake_rotor_guide.jpg)
Here's a little more info on brake fluid. Although I should spice up the page with a photo . . . . .
![](http://image.highperformancepontiac.com/f/tech/hppp_1101_brake_rotor_guide/35015070+pinline_medium/hppp_1101_01+brake_rotor_guide.jpg)
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Great info as usual MarcusF ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Interesting to note that Castrol SRF had the highest dry temp rating, but it also has the highest wet rating too. It's true that the price is something you have to factor in considering:
1. You will not use a full can even with a full brake flush and bleed
2. The remaining fluid in the can will go wet faster than other types
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Interesting to note that Castrol SRF had the highest dry temp rating, but it also has the highest wet rating too. It's true that the price is something you have to factor in considering:
1. You will not use a full can even with a full brake flush and bleed
2. The remaining fluid in the can will go wet faster than other types
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Holly crap! I am so glad to see the forum still alive and well! I can't wait to jump back in here bext month and start monding again!! I also can't wait to see the post duno runs with this kit. I'll buy them on the stop if they show number gains!!! Thanks for taking all your time and documenting it here! You are making others lives so much easier...
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Holly crap! I am so glad to see the forum still alive and well! I can't wait to jump back in here bext month and start monding again!! I also can't wait to see the post duno runs with this kit. I'll buy them on the stop if they show number gains!!! Thanks for taking all your time and documenting it here! You are making others lives so much easier...
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There was just too much speculation out there with no real numbers so I figured I would be the guinea pig and post everything for you guys and hit the dyno after each MOND (
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Evosport is claiming 8+ RWHP gain so we will see. The one thing I am excited about is other people who have installed this kit have said that they REV quicker which will make me happy as the 43 motor isn't that lively below 3000 RPM so the quicker I can get into that REV range the happier I will be.
I will get my car back the 19th and I am trying to get on the dyno within a week of getting my car back, hopefully we will see that 8+ RWHP gain with the quicker REVs
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Hey, so while brakes are relatively fresh in this thread, maybe someone can pop out a genius answer for me:
Attempting to change the hoses to ss, I stripped the nut on the top part of the old line, where it sits in the holder on the inner fender. So there is the line that comes through the fender and connects to the flexible lower brake line. This nut is part of the upper line. Any help on how to get it off and the new lower line on? Am I best off just getting a new solid upper line from mb and replacing it at the master cylinder, or would this be a headache trying to get it through the hole in the fender?
Attempting to change the hoses to ss, I stripped the nut on the top part of the old line, where it sits in the holder on the inner fender. So there is the line that comes through the fender and connects to the flexible lower brake line. This nut is part of the upper line. Any help on how to get it off and the new lower line on? Am I best off just getting a new solid upper line from mb and replacing it at the master cylinder, or would this be a headache trying to get it through the hole in the fender?
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Hey, so while brakes are relatively fresh in this thread, maybe someone can pop out a genius answer for me:
Attempting to change the hoses to ss, I stripped the nut on the top part of the old line, where it sits in the holder on the inner fender. So there is the line that comes through the fender and connects to the flexible lower brake line. This nut is part of the upper line. Any help on how to get it off and the new lower line on? Am I best off just getting a new solid upper line from mb and replacing it at the master cylinder, or would this be a headache trying to get it through the hole in the fender?
Attempting to change the hoses to ss, I stripped the nut on the top part of the old line, where it sits in the holder on the inner fender. So there is the line that comes through the fender and connects to the flexible lower brake line. This nut is part of the upper line. Any help on how to get it off and the new lower line on? Am I best off just getting a new solid upper line from mb and replacing it at the master cylinder, or would this be a headache trying to get it through the hole in the fender?
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Thanks Drb, I hope so too
And sorry about the thread jack 503, maybe this is just my way of reminding you to tell us all how that new pulley feels!
And sorry about the thread jack 503, maybe this is just my way of reminding you to tell us all how that new pulley feels!
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UPDATE:
Just got through talking with the shop that will be doing my UD pulley kit install. I was scheduled for 9/19 but just got bumped up to 9/1
I have decided to go with ATE super blue brake fluid due to the hygroscopic nature of the Castrol SRF and have already ordered 1L, It should be delivered on 8/30. I am having the shop do the flush and bleed at the same time as the UD pulley kit install.
Just got through talking with the shop that will be doing my UD pulley kit install. I was scheduled for 9/19 but just got bumped up to 9/1
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I have decided to go with ATE super blue brake fluid due to the hygroscopic nature of the Castrol SRF and have already ordered 1L, It should be delivered on 8/30. I am having the shop do the flush and bleed at the same time as the UD pulley kit install.
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Nice
Some reading and good explainations here on the officiel ATE site http://www.ate.de/generator/www/com/...fluids_en.html
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UPDATE:
As usual nothing ever goes as planned and I will not be getting my car until tomorrow
I guess they are having trouble with some "stubborn fasteners" whatever that means
As usual nothing ever goes as planned and I will not be getting my car until tomorrow
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UPDATE:
Just received my C43 with the Evosport pulley kit installed as well as a fresh brake fluid flush and fill with the ATE Super blue racing fluid.
Now for the review:
Just got back from a 30 minute drive and have nothing but good things to say. My brakes feel much more solid (my old fluid must of definitely been in need of change) and there is a noticeable difference after the pulley kit has been installed. My butt dyno is telling me there is definitely more oomph but we will let the actual dyno be the judge of that. One thing is for sure, it REVS noticeably quicker. There is no doubt about it, the pulley kit definitely is an improvement on performance as far as getting into the meat of the power band.
I am scheduling another dyno appointment to determine what the gains were (if any) and I will post results ASAP.
Just received my C43 with the Evosport pulley kit installed as well as a fresh brake fluid flush and fill with the ATE Super blue racing fluid.
Now for the review:
Just got back from a 30 minute drive and have nothing but good things to say. My brakes feel much more solid (my old fluid must of definitely been in need of change) and there is a noticeable difference after the pulley kit has been installed. My butt dyno is telling me there is definitely more oomph but we will let the actual dyno be the judge of that. One thing is for sure, it REVS noticeably quicker. There is no doubt about it, the pulley kit definitely is an improvement on performance as far as getting into the meat of the power band.
I am scheduling another dyno appointment to determine what the gains were (if any) and I will post results ASAP.
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UPDATE:
Guess they experienced the same difficulty removing like others before (see Saab's experience"
Just received my C43 with the Evosport pulley kit installed as well as a fresh brake fluid flush and fill with the ATE Super blue racing fluid.
Now for the review:
Just got back from a 30 minute drive and have nothing but good things to say. My brakes feel much more solid (my old fluid must of definitely been in need of change) and there is a noticeable difference after the pulley kit has been installed. My butt dyno is telling me there is definitely more oomph but we will let the actual dyno be the judge of that. One thing is for sure, it REVS noticeably quicker. There is no doubt about it, the pulley kit definitely is an improvement on performance as far as getting into the meat of the power band.
I am scheduling another dyno appointment to determine what the gains were (if any) and I will post results ASAP.
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Just received my C43 with the Evosport pulley kit installed as well as a fresh brake fluid flush and fill with the ATE Super blue racing fluid.
Now for the review:
Just got back from a 30 minute drive and have nothing but good things to say. My brakes feel much more solid (my old fluid must of definitely been in need of change) and there is a noticeable difference after the pulley kit has been installed. My butt dyno is telling me there is definitely more oomph but we will let the actual dyno be the judge of that. One thing is for sure, it REVS noticeably quicker. There is no doubt about it, the pulley kit definitely is an improvement on performance as far as getting into the meat of the power band.
I am scheduling another dyno appointment to determine what the gains were (if any) and I will post results ASAP.
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UPDATE:
I have my 2nd dyno run scheduled for the 16th @ 4:30pm.
We will have hard data whether or not there are any HP/TQ gains with the Evosport UD pulley kit
Evosport is claiming 8+ RWHP
I have my 2nd dyno run scheduled for the 16th @ 4:30pm.
We will have hard data whether or not there are any HP/TQ gains with the Evosport UD pulley kit
Evosport is claiming 8+ RWHP
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