w202 c36 value appreciate
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w202 c36 value appreciate
hi i would like to know if my c36 will appreciate iv value in the next 15 years it is compleately stock looked after and has done 83 miles ???
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It is impossible to predict that. The relatively low production volume is there, so that helps. But really, there has to be a demand. A good example is how prices blew up on the Toyota Supra and 3rd Gen RX-7 after the first The Fast and the Furious came out. Five years before, the Supra and the RX-7 were hardly selling because they were way overpriced and the OEM's pulled them, at least in North America. Then the movie came out and the values on used vehicles blew up. I think it is settling down now. But if you look at the cars that have increased in value, most of it has had to do with some romanticism around the model. Late 50's and early 60's Ferrari's, Hemi Barracudas, Ford GT's, Shelby Cobra's. If I had to guess, I would say that turbo Supras will be the Hemi Cuda's of 20 years in the future. All of the kids who grew up on the Fast and the Furious will be in their early 50's and perhaps be in a situation to go after their dream car and a 800 hp single turbo Supra will have been their dream car growing up. Not saying that is my dream car, but just a prediction.
Now, back to the C36. Cool car, so is the C43, but I don't think either one is going to go up based on the fact that it is one of the original AMG's right around the merger unless AMG does something unexpected that creates a lot of hype around the brand. And based on the fact of how many AMG models they are planning to come out with, I don't think they are helping us. I saw the same thing with Ducati. The 916 series bikes held their value pretty well until Ducati flooded the market with the lower priced, higher performance 1098. Some times what is good for the company in terms of increased sales is bad for the collectors. I think AMG has flooded the market with vehicles and the market has responded by tanking the prices on used AMG's. Someone who wants an older AMG has a plethora of choices at insanely good prices. Not to mention the recent dramatic shift upward in horsepower numbers that make our cars seem obsolete. In 1995 a Mustang GT had roughly 225 horsepower, now they have around 415 or so (don't quote that, just off the top of my head). I'm rambling, so a list to make it more organized. Things that I think impact value:
-Rarity - The C36 scores a so-so here. Not huge production volumes, but not incredibly low either.
-Romanticism - Not many people have a C36 poster on their wall. I'd go out on a limb and say the only people who do probably already own or have owned a C36 or C43. It's an awesome car but not a very romantic car.
-Manufacturer - Not looking so good here with the current AMG plans. They are blowing up the production numbers. Increase supply and eventually supply is much higher than demand and the prices suffer.
I would say it will go up slightly in value as almost all older, well maintained vehicles do, but I doubt it'll go much beyond inflation. That goes for the North American market, I've heard that older black AMG's are still quite popular in Europe.
Now, back to the C36. Cool car, so is the C43, but I don't think either one is going to go up based on the fact that it is one of the original AMG's right around the merger unless AMG does something unexpected that creates a lot of hype around the brand. And based on the fact of how many AMG models they are planning to come out with, I don't think they are helping us. I saw the same thing with Ducati. The 916 series bikes held their value pretty well until Ducati flooded the market with the lower priced, higher performance 1098. Some times what is good for the company in terms of increased sales is bad for the collectors. I think AMG has flooded the market with vehicles and the market has responded by tanking the prices on used AMG's. Someone who wants an older AMG has a plethora of choices at insanely good prices. Not to mention the recent dramatic shift upward in horsepower numbers that make our cars seem obsolete. In 1995 a Mustang GT had roughly 225 horsepower, now they have around 415 or so (don't quote that, just off the top of my head). I'm rambling, so a list to make it more organized. Things that I think impact value:
-Rarity - The C36 scores a so-so here. Not huge production volumes, but not incredibly low either.
-Romanticism - Not many people have a C36 poster on their wall. I'd go out on a limb and say the only people who do probably already own or have owned a C36 or C43. It's an awesome car but not a very romantic car.
-Manufacturer - Not looking so good here with the current AMG plans. They are blowing up the production numbers. Increase supply and eventually supply is much higher than demand and the prices suffer.
I would say it will go up slightly in value as almost all older, well maintained vehicles do, but I doubt it'll go much beyond inflation. That goes for the North American market, I've heard that older black AMG's are still quite popular in Europe.
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It is impossible to predict that. The relatively low production volume is there, so that helps. But really, there has to be a demand. A good example is how prices blew up on the Toyota Supra and 3rd Gen RX-7 after the first The Fast and the Furious came out. Five years before, the Supra and the RX-7 were hardly selling because they were way overpriced and the OEM's pulled them, at least in North America. Then the movie came out and the values on used vehicles blew up. I think it is settling down now. But if you look at the cars that have increased in value, most of it has had to do with some romanticism around the model. Late 50's and early 60's Ferrari's, Hemi Barracudas, Ford GT's, Shelby Cobra's. If I had to guess, I would say that turbo Supras will be the Hemi Cuda's of 20 years in the future. All of the kids who grew up on the Fast and the Furious will be in their early 50's and perhaps be in a situation to go after their dream car and a 800 hp single turbo Supra will have been their dream car growing up. Not saying that is my dream car, but just a prediction.
Now, back to the C36. Cool car, so is the C43, but I don't think either one is going to go up based on the fact that it is one of the original AMG's right around the merger unless AMG does something unexpected that creates a lot of hype around the brand. And based on the fact of how many AMG models they are planning to come out with, I don't think they are helping us. I saw the same thing with Ducati. The 916 series bikes held their value pretty well until Ducati flooded the market with the lower priced, higher performance 1098. Some times what is good for the company in terms of increased sales is bad for the collectors. I think AMG has flooded the market with vehicles and the market has responded by tanking the prices on used AMG's. Someone who wants an older AMG has a plethora of choices at insanely good prices. Not to mention the recent dramatic shift upward in horsepower numbers that make our cars seem obsolete. In 1995 a Mustang GT had roughly 225 horsepower, now they have around 415 or so (don't quote that, just off the top of my head). I'm rambling, so a list to make it more organized. Things that I think impact value:
-Rarity - The C36 scores a so-so here. Not huge production volumes, but not incredibly low either.
-Romanticism - Not many people have a C36 poster on their wall. I'd go out on a limb and say the only people who do probably already own or have owned a C36 or C43. It's an awesome car but not a very romantic car.
-Manufacturer - Not looking so good here with the current AMG plans. They are blowing up the production numbers. Increase supply and eventually supply is much higher than demand and the prices suffer.
I would say it will go up slightly in value as almost all older, well maintained vehicles do, but I doubt it'll go much beyond inflation. That goes for the North American market, I've heard that older black AMG's are still quite popular in Europe.
Now, back to the C36. Cool car, so is the C43, but I don't think either one is going to go up based on the fact that it is one of the original AMG's right around the merger unless AMG does something unexpected that creates a lot of hype around the brand. And based on the fact of how many AMG models they are planning to come out with, I don't think they are helping us. I saw the same thing with Ducati. The 916 series bikes held their value pretty well until Ducati flooded the market with the lower priced, higher performance 1098. Some times what is good for the company in terms of increased sales is bad for the collectors. I think AMG has flooded the market with vehicles and the market has responded by tanking the prices on used AMG's. Someone who wants an older AMG has a plethora of choices at insanely good prices. Not to mention the recent dramatic shift upward in horsepower numbers that make our cars seem obsolete. In 1995 a Mustang GT had roughly 225 horsepower, now they have around 415 or so (don't quote that, just off the top of my head). I'm rambling, so a list to make it more organized. Things that I think impact value:
-Rarity - The C36 scores a so-so here. Not huge production volumes, but not incredibly low either.
-Romanticism - Not many people have a C36 poster on their wall. I'd go out on a limb and say the only people who do probably already own or have owned a C36 or C43. It's an awesome car but not a very romantic car.
-Manufacturer - Not looking so good here with the current AMG plans. They are blowing up the production numbers. Increase supply and eventually supply is much higher than demand and the prices suffer.
I would say it will go up slightly in value as almost all older, well maintained vehicles do, but I doubt it'll go much beyond inflation. That goes for the North American market, I've heard that older black AMG's are still quite popular in Europe.
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'97 c36
Kinda sad if you ask me. The c36 is a fantastic car. Mine has done almost 200K and every power option still works and shows very little signs of age.
The only thing that I can NOT figure out for the life of me is what the hell Mercedes was thinking.. Here they built a car to compete with the BMW m3. AMG delivers an amazing sounding and performing engine tuned as good as the m104 can be ... and they stick an auto gear box out of a delivery truck behind it. The 722 is a great transmission and is tough as nails but seriously... what the hell. They had the 5 speed from the 180 16v, the pedal box and master assembly from the c230... why Mercedes..why..
must have figured most people who drive merc's have too much arthritis in the knees for a clutch pedal. As far as value ECTurboGSX called it out perfectly. Maybe if there was and easier way to get more power, it was manual optioned and it put up more of a fight to an M3 then people may know more about it. But most people have no clue about the C36.. I dont know about where you live, but I have yet to see a w202 owner driving down the road that wasnt collecting social security. Seriously though don't worry too much about the value, just enjoy your kick *** ride. Keep up on the maintenance and drive the hell out of it. You'll get sick of buying gas before you wear it out.
The only thing that I can NOT figure out for the life of me is what the hell Mercedes was thinking.. Here they built a car to compete with the BMW m3. AMG delivers an amazing sounding and performing engine tuned as good as the m104 can be ... and they stick an auto gear box out of a delivery truck behind it. The 722 is a great transmission and is tough as nails but seriously... what the hell. They had the 5 speed from the 180 16v, the pedal box and master assembly from the c230... why Mercedes..why..
must have figured most people who drive merc's have too much arthritis in the knees for a clutch pedal. As far as value ECTurboGSX called it out perfectly. Maybe if there was and easier way to get more power, it was manual optioned and it put up more of a fight to an M3 then people may know more about it. But most people have no clue about the C36.. I dont know about where you live, but I have yet to see a w202 owner driving down the road that wasnt collecting social security. Seriously though don't worry too much about the value, just enjoy your kick *** ride. Keep up on the maintenance and drive the hell out of it. You'll get sick of buying gas before you wear it out.
Last edited by Super B; Mar 14, 2013 at 02:03 AM.
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W202 AMG C43
Dunno about the C36, but here (sure it's a web with a opinion) the C43 has some future value seems
https://pinterest.com/ko3ak/affordab...-classic-cars/
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'97 c36
Yeah I seen that video 503.. Pretty impressive craftsmanship but seems like so much extra work. Hats off to the man. A fella has to wonder how he got a true enough alignment on the input shaft. Wonder if he built a jig to hold the bell housing for welding or how he did it.
That's the thing I've read about conversions and seen a couple pictures of slk6-speed conversions but no write ups. The devil is in the details, like how did they over come the transmission codes the dme is going to throw? doesn't the speedometer in these cars run off the speed sensors in the transmission? Then the reverse light wiring.. then the problem of the final drive ratio.. Makes a man wonder if he is going to go through all that for a tranny. A man shouldn't just go for the whole enchilada and shoe horn a stroked lt1 or LSx t-56. Don't know about down under prices but an lt1 now a days is dirt dirt cheap.
That's the thing I've read about conversions and seen a couple pictures of slk6-speed conversions but no write ups. The devil is in the details, like how did they over come the transmission codes the dme is going to throw? doesn't the speedometer in these cars run off the speed sensors in the transmission? Then the reverse light wiring.. then the problem of the final drive ratio.. Makes a man wonder if he is going to go through all that for a tranny. A man shouldn't just go for the whole enchilada and shoe horn a stroked lt1 or LSx t-56. Don't know about down under prices but an lt1 now a days is dirt dirt cheap.
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'97 c36
HAHA thats for sure!! What a project... and I'm not even remotely suggesting its on the same page. Hell a swap like that isnt even in the same book. But cant help to wonder how well things would clear the cross member, steering box, trans tunnel.. ... but seriously time and money.. what it really boils down to.
Thats pretty sweet your pre 97. Not going to have to deal with all the controller issues. Those are the ones im most curious about. What are you going to do for a prop shaft and final drive?
Thats pretty sweet your pre 97. Not going to have to deal with all the controller issues. Those are the ones im most curious about. What are you going to do for a prop shaft and final drive?
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From: Southern NH
2003 SL55 AMG
The one thing the C36 has going for it is the inline 6. It is the only AMG with one. The sound of an inline 6 revving is really unique and you don't get it unless you're driving a BMW or the C36. I was looking at buying a C36 but it was 600 miles away and I didn't want to travel that far. I am selling my 98 540i 6 to buy a C55 AMG.
