Buying new spring pads tomorrow
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Buying new spring pads tomorrow
I just wanna be sure as I might get new Koni shox for my car soon.
Should I buy 5 front/4 rear spring pad combo to avoid rubbing issues?
Koni's will be used with Vogtland lowering springs.
My car has ET35 rims front and rear if it matters for rubbing issues?
I'm looking for 1 to 1½ finger wheelarch stance, factory gap now gives me a 2 finger gap on front and rear which is a bit high for me.
Is this the best recomendation using 5/4 pad combo?
Should I buy 5 front/4 rear spring pad combo to avoid rubbing issues?
Koni's will be used with Vogtland lowering springs.
My car has ET35 rims front and rear if it matters for rubbing issues?
I'm looking for 1 to 1½ finger wheelarch stance, factory gap now gives me a 2 finger gap on front and rear which is a bit high for me.
Is this the best recomendation using 5/4 pad combo?
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greit thanx.
I just ordered them today from the stealership.
will cost me approx $50 dollars for 4 rubbers with discount.
only thing left to buy are my Koni's chikkan yello shox
I hope these are good to my taste and do my car well in performance and longlife?!
I just ordered them today from the stealership.
will cost me approx $50 dollars for 4 rubbers with discount.
only thing left to buy are my Koni's chikkan yello shox
I hope these are good to my taste and do my car well in performance and longlife?!
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Fronts = $292.80 per pair
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How much are you paying for them?
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Hey while we are talking about pads.. Is there any difference between the set up for the 43 and the 36? I just ordered some vogtland springs also and was planning on running the #4 and #5 pad set us as well. Is this correct?
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got mine today, they are waaaaaay to thick
what kind of wheel gap do i get with 5/4 combo + Vogtland 35mm + Koni yellows?
1 finger - 1½ finger - 2 finger?
my stock factory wheelgap is now 2 finger.
I don't want to have the same 2 finger space with Vogtland install!!
has to be a perfect 1½ finger gap
When using 5/4 pads including all my new suspension parts, am I going to get more suspension instabillity from my pads coz they are way too thick?
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Yes there is a big difference. C36 uses W201 style pads, where the spring is essentially "cut" so the spring pad has a gradual indent in it for the top coil of the spring to go into. C43 uses W210 style pads, where the spring is gradually tapered down at the top so it is flat, so the spring pad is more flat, and therefore much thinner. Luckily (for me) the tops of the pads are identical. So I am running C36 Vogtland springs and #1 and #3 W201 style pads in my C43. The MM thicknesses and corresponding pad # is different for the 201 and 210 styles, and I don't think there even is a #5 in 201. I think a while back Saab posted both styles and their mm thicknesses.
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Hey thanks buddy good info. That's good to know. For sure w201 pads I remember turning the pad and locking them onto the spring when installing them after the front end rebuild. Hmm guess ill just have to wait to see how these springs are cut before ordering pads. From the picture they look flat like the 210 style even though they are listed as c36 springs. Ill do a search and see if I can come up with saabs post. Since this is my daily driver I'm leaning torwards the thickest pad I can get. (Which may already be in the car since I have a 4 finger gap... Hell I can almost fist the old girl.. she's dirty like that.. need to wash her wheel wells before sticking my head in there and working it but that's besides the point. )
Guess wait and see what shows up.. Currently Savin coin for koni's thanks again for the heads up.
Guess wait and see what shows up.. Currently Savin coin for koni's thanks again for the heads up.
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Hey thanks buddy good info. That's good to know. For sure w201 pads I remember turning the pad and locking them onto the spring when installing them after the front end rebuild. Hmm guess ill just have to wait to see how these springs are cut before ordering pads. From the picture they look flat like the 210 style even though they are listed as c36 springs. Ill do a search and see if I can come up with saabs post. Since this is my daily driver I'm leaning torwards the thickest pad I can get. (Which may already be in the car since I have a 4 finger gap... Hell I can almost fist the old girl.. she's dirty like that.. need to wash her wheel wells before sticking my head in there and working it but that's besides the point. )
Guess wait and see what shows up.. Currently Savin coin for koni's thanks again for the heads up.
Guess wait and see what shows up.. Currently Savin coin for koni's thanks again for the heads up.
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that's what the experts say, use #5 front and #4 rear
got mine today, they are waaaaaay to thick
what kind of wheel gap do i get with 5/4 combo + Vogtland 35mm + Koni yellows?
1 finger - 1½ finger - 2 finger?
my stock factory wheelgap is now 2 finger.
I don't want to have the same 2 finger space with Vogtland install!!
has to be a perfect 1½ finger gap
When using 5/4 pads including all my new suspension parts, am I going to get more suspension instabillity from my pads coz they are way too thick?
got mine today, they are waaaaaay to thick
what kind of wheel gap do i get with 5/4 combo + Vogtland 35mm + Koni yellows?
1 finger - 1½ finger - 2 finger?
my stock factory wheelgap is now 2 finger.
I don't want to have the same 2 finger space with Vogtland install!!
has to be a perfect 1½ finger gap
When using 5/4 pads including all my new suspension parts, am I going to get more suspension instabillity from my pads coz they are way too thick?
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if i get the raked look that will be great
do you have any rub issues when loading your trunk + people in the backseat?
I can do a test with my old stock #1 pads when doing this modification if i get any rubbing issues.
I checked my stuff at home.
This is what I have:
2x Front #1 pads
2x Front #5 pads
2x Rear #1 pads
2x Rear #2 pads
2x Rear #4 pads
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jason, i don't want the slammed looks, i leave that stance to the younger people.
if i get the raked look that will be great
do you have any rub issues when loading your trunk + people in the backseat?
I can do a test with my old stock #1 pads when doing this modification if i get any rubbing issues.
I checked my stuff at home.
This is what I have:
2x Front #1 pads
2x Front #5 pads
2x Rear #1 pads
2x Rear #2 pads
2x Rear #4 pads
if i get the raked look that will be great
do you have any rub issues when loading your trunk + people in the backseat?
I can do a test with my old stock #1 pads when doing this modification if i get any rubbing issues.
I checked my stuff at home.
This is what I have:
2x Front #1 pads
2x Front #5 pads
2x Rear #1 pads
2x Rear #2 pads
2x Rear #4 pads
I have never had any rubbing issues. I have had 4 full grown men in the car (2 in front and 2 in rear) without any tire rubbing. With the #5 and #4 pads you can still see the top of the tire (not tucked into the wheel well) but it is close in the front, not as close in the rear.
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Road noise is pretty much non existent but I think road noise has more to do with your tire design than sizes. Mercedes is pretty good about keeping outside noises outside as well. When I had my 1999 Accord the difference was night and day, the C43 was SOOOOOO much quieter.
I will say this, if I had to do it all over again I would get 18's. 19's look cool but I think the extra profile on 18's would give a little smoother ride.
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I have never had any rubbing issues. I have had 4 full grown men in the car (2 in front and 2 in rear) without any tire rubbing. With the #5 and #4 pads you can still see the top of the tire (not tucked into the wheel well) but it is close in the front, not as close in the rear.
I was browsing your profile pictures of your sweet ride.
I don't see any pics after you lowered your car.
I only saw a black MB C-class jeep.
I appreciate if you want to take some cool poses of your ride for me?
Front wheel gap, rear wheel gap, and finally some full car pictures.
Make sure you take good pictures where I can see the gap between wheel arches and tires.
You show me yours, I show you mine when I'm done modified.
Müchas gracias amigo
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Hey J.
I was browsing your profile pictures of your sweet ride.
I don't see any pics after you lowered your car.
I only saw a black MB C-class jeep.
I appreciate if you want to take some cool poses of your ride for me?
Front wheel gap, rear wheel gap, and finally some full car pictures.
Make sure you take good pictures where I can see the gap between wheel arches and tires.
You show me yours, I show you mine when I'm done modified.
Müchas gracias amigo
I was browsing your profile pictures of your sweet ride.
I don't see any pics after you lowered your car.
I only saw a black MB C-class jeep.
I appreciate if you want to take some cool poses of your ride for me?
Front wheel gap, rear wheel gap, and finally some full car pictures.
Make sure you take good pictures where I can see the gap between wheel arches and tires.
You show me yours, I show you mine when I'm done modified.
Müchas gracias amigo
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Well with the noise I was more wondering with the kmacs. They are poly right? I ran into that when I had my firebird with full suspension on poly bushings the road noise was night and day worse over the stock rubber. But sounds like its not that bad on the 202. I'm just concerned about the vogtlands being too low. But your running 19's and seem to be happy. Nd4spd seems happy soo maybe I'm worrying about nothing.. in the last year and 6 months she has logged over 32k so road maners are right there with performance. : / I'm hoping the thickest pad will be enough just have to see. I'd be perfectly happy with 2 finger gap. I'm wondering if I should have gone euro route.
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Well with the noise I was more wondering with the kmacs. They are poly right? I ran into that when I had my firebird with full suspension on poly bushings the road noise was night and day worse over the stock rubber. But sounds like its not that bad on the 202. I'm just concerned about the vogtlands being too low. But your running 19's and seem to be happy. Nd4spd seems happy soo maybe I'm worrying about nothing.. in the last year and 6 months she has logged over 32k so road maners are right there with performance. : / I'm hoping the thickest pad will be enough just have to see. I'd be perfectly happy with 2 finger gap. I'm wondering if I should have gone euro route.
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As far as the sqeaking Saab I'm sure you already know this but there is a specific synthetic grease just for those poly suspension bushings. The Spohn bushings on the firebird were horribly squeaky before greasing them. I forget the name of the grease but I can look it up if your interested.
