Springs: Euro vs H&R Sport/Eiback pro
#26
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Here are the part numbers, I bought them from LMPerformance last year, that site had them listed as a w208 clk430 part.
2 - 00868412 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Front; 1999-2003
2 - 00868046 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Rear; 1999-2003
2 - 00868412 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Front; 1999-2003
2 - 00868046 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Rear; 1999-2003
#27
Here are the part numbers, I bought them from LMPerformance last year, that site had them listed as a w208 clk430 part.
2 - 00868412 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Front; 1999-2003
2 - 00868046 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Rear; 1999-2003
2 - 00868412 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Front; 1999-2003
2 - 00868046 - Bilstein B6 Performance Shock Absorber Mercedes Benz CLK430 Rear; 1999-2003
Do you happen to know more about 3 H&R P/Ns I found for C43:
527727-77 Super Sport // drops 2.0"F/1.9"R
29749.2 Sport // drops 1.4"F/1.3"R
Above 2 P/N are listed on tirerack.com for W202 C43, however when I went to wwe.h-r.com and look into W202 CLK55, I found P/N 29377(29377-1) was actually made for C36/C43/CLK55/CLK430. it drops 1"F/0.9"R
I know super sport ride height is definitely lower than sport, however people using sport says instead of 1.4 inch lower, it actually lower the car by 2”, which make me think 1.4” assumption is based on C43 Euro spec spring set up, if I am correct than super sport will drop the USA C43 by 2.6”? And if P/N 29377 1” drop is assumption base on Euro spring setup, and it will be actually the one with the highest ride height? Do you have any experience on them?
#28
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Thanks you very much for your help!
Do you happen to know more about 3 H&R P/Ns I found for C43:
527727-77 Super Sport // drops 2.0"F/1.9"R
29749.2 Sport // drops 1.4"F/1.3"R
Above 2 P/N are listed on tirerack.com for W202 C43, however when I went to wwe.h-r.com and look into W202 CLK55, I found P/N 29377(29377-1) was actually made for C36/C43/CLK55/CLK430. it drops 1"F/0.9"R
I know super sport ride height is definitely lower than sport, however people using sport says instead of 1.4 inch lower, it actually lower the car by 2”, which make me think 1.4” assumption is based on C43 Euro spec spring set up, if I am correct than super sport will drop the USA C43 by 2.6”? And if P/N 29377 1” drop is assumption base on Euro spring setup, and it will be actually the one with the highest ride height? Do you have any experience on them?
Do you happen to know more about 3 H&R P/Ns I found for C43:
527727-77 Super Sport // drops 2.0"F/1.9"R
29749.2 Sport // drops 1.4"F/1.3"R
Above 2 P/N are listed on tirerack.com for W202 C43, however when I went to wwe.h-r.com and look into W202 CLK55, I found P/N 29377(29377-1) was actually made for C36/C43/CLK55/CLK430. it drops 1"F/0.9"R
I know super sport ride height is definitely lower than sport, however people using sport says instead of 1.4 inch lower, it actually lower the car by 2”, which make me think 1.4” assumption is based on C43 Euro spec spring set up, if I am correct than super sport will drop the USA C43 by 2.6”? And if P/N 29377 1” drop is assumption base on Euro spring setup, and it will be actually the one with the highest ride height? Do you have any experience on them?
But here's another question:
1. Why get new springs at all? What's ride height like now? Are you happy with it? If not just see if you can raise/lower with the pads. Or just replace with OEM springs. Try to limit your variables. If you want OEM look then keep OEM springs and just get the thinnest spring pads or maybe one notch up.
#29
I'm guessing the 1"F 0.9"R might be the drop height for the clk and not the c43. But from what you have said your looking for I'd probably go with H&R sport, then if it's a bit low you can raise it with the spring pads. Remember you have almost 1 inch you can play with on the spring pads. Have you checked which pads you have on now? Usually you can reach right in near the top of the spring and feel for the nubs, or stick you phone in there and take a pic and count them. If you have 1/2 now then you know you can go higher with any springs you get. If you have 4/5 nub now then you know you can go lower, etc.
But here's another question:
1. Why get new springs at all? What's ride height like now? Are you happy with it? If not just see if you can raise/lower with the pads. Or just replace with OEM springs. Try to limit your variables. If you want OEM look then keep OEM springs and just get the thinnest spring pads or maybe one notch up.
But here's another question:
1. Why get new springs at all? What's ride height like now? Are you happy with it? If not just see if you can raise/lower with the pads. Or just replace with OEM springs. Try to limit your variables. If you want OEM look then keep OEM springs and just get the thinnest spring pads or maybe one notch up.
Sir, this is current ride height of my car now, I like this look, the reason I was searching for aftermarket spring is because I was not sure W208 B6 will fit the car, people are saying B8 will fit however accordingly to Bilstein B8 will need to be paired with lower spring therefore I was looking for sport spring to go with B8, thank you for your earlier information, I have ordered B6 to stay at OEM look, any issue you noticed for your B6/Euro Spring Setup? I will stay with my OEM spring now, however if my spring goes bad, I will replace it with Euro spring.
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AGEDAMG should bring his spirit level water scale checking ground if it's all flat and even ground.
Then he'll know if springs sag or not, pictures do lie sometimes showing incorrect height? .
Then he'll know if springs sag or not, pictures do lie sometimes showing incorrect height? .
Last edited by MattCordell; 04-04-2022 at 01:16 PM.
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AGEDAMG (04-14-2022)
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I agree, there is a difference or else it's an optical illusion. I would measure from center of wheel cap to edge of front fender. That should give you an indication if there is a difference in gap
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AGEDAMG (04-05-2022)
#35
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your front height is definitely lower than USA OEM. but i think it looks great.
when you replace the shocks check your spring perches and if possible the part #s on your springs. if thats a north american car then the spring perches must be the thinnest ones or you have very saggy springs. but it soes look like you have a bit of 'dive' in the passenger front of your car currently, it looks like its matched by the driver side rear being higher than the passenger side rear. but its pretty slight and not all cars sit perfectly balanced, the weight distribution in these cars is not perfect either. I would not worry about what I see in those photos, but again, when you change the shocks out double check your springs for them to be broken at the very top coil, I had one of my OEM springs broken there before I replaced them with my H&Rs and I didnt notice it until I replaced them, so it might be happening on your car also.
I think you will be happy with the B6. my B6 with Euro spec springs is excellent in my opinion. especially after my stock shocks were clearly going bad when I replaced them last year, they get sorse over time and you dont really notice it, but when I put the new B6s on it was MUCH better than the old ones. and im very happy with how it rides, not too harsh but also very tight, compared to my w208 CLK55 on H&R super sports and B8s... that is very harsh, and again I have this setup for autocross and track days on that car.
when you replace the shocks check your spring perches and if possible the part #s on your springs. if thats a north american car then the spring perches must be the thinnest ones or you have very saggy springs. but it soes look like you have a bit of 'dive' in the passenger front of your car currently, it looks like its matched by the driver side rear being higher than the passenger side rear. but its pretty slight and not all cars sit perfectly balanced, the weight distribution in these cars is not perfect either. I would not worry about what I see in those photos, but again, when you change the shocks out double check your springs for them to be broken at the very top coil, I had one of my OEM springs broken there before I replaced them with my H&Rs and I didnt notice it until I replaced them, so it might be happening on your car also.
I think you will be happy with the B6. my B6 with Euro spec springs is excellent in my opinion. especially after my stock shocks were clearly going bad when I replaced them last year, they get sorse over time and you dont really notice it, but when I put the new B6s on it was MUCH better than the old ones. and im very happy with how it rides, not too harsh but also very tight, compared to my w208 CLK55 on H&R super sports and B8s... that is very harsh, and again I have this setup for autocross and track days on that car.
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AGEDAMG (04-13-2022)
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Sir, the car should be original from top to bottom as I went through the records history of maintenance in details, the previous first owner was in his 60s when he bought the car brand new and passed away last year at age of mid 80s, the maintenance record indicates routine service done to the car, no sign of aftermarket or modifications done to the car, therefore I am pretty sure the car is a original North American car and stay at OEM height, thank you for your reminder, I will have my mechanic check if I have a broken spring, hopefully not, cross finger.
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Sir, the car should be original from top to bottom as I went through the records history of maintenance in details, the previous first owner was in his 60s when he bought the car brand new and passed away last year at age of mid 80s, the maintenance record indicates routine service done to the car, no sign of aftermarket or modifications done to the car, therefore I am pretty sure the car is a original North American car and stay at OEM height, thank you for your reminder, I will have my mechanic check if I have a broken spring, hopefully not, cross finger.
Your car will look so much better.
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