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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 11:11 PM
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CL600 Calipers?

I may have found a good deal on a local set of calipers off of a CL600... will these bolt on to a C36? I am pretty familiar with w201 brake upgrades, but I am on uncharted waters when it comes to w202 upgrades.
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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 11:57 PM
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Do you have picture of those calipers..?

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:00 AM
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This is not a picture of the actual caliper I am looking at, but it is the same one. From what I understand, these are the same calipers as the w203 c32? I could be wrong though.

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:07 AM
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They bolted right up on my 202 (these were off a CLK550).

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:11 AM
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What do you guys usually see these going for? I want to make sure that I am actually getting a good deal, lol.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:29 AM
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I think those W220/W215 S/CL600 using the same C32/C55 Rotors, which is 345x32..

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:41 AM
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i dont think the cl calipers will fit without spacing out the rotor. best to get w209 or w203 4 pot calipers thy bill bolt right up
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 03:36 AM
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i dont think the cl calipers will fit without spacing out the rotor. best to get w209 or w203 4 pot calipers thy bill bolt right up
did you replace your brake master cylinder when you changed your calipers or do you still use the factory fitted c43 BMC?
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Assuming they will fit, may need washers & spacers, depend to the Rotors will chosen,

i tried some of W220 calipers on my & my friends W202/W208/W210,,

312x28 & 330x32 & 334x32 & 345x30 & 360x36..

ahh i forget, i have a good helper, but she's soooooo laaaaaazyyyy..

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Well, I went ahead and bought the calipers. They were a good enough deal that they were worth it to try out. If they work, I got a cheap upgrade. If not, I should have a problem getting my money back.
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Forward some photos, need to be sure if they using 330mm or 345mm..?

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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These are the actual calipers that I bought. Not sure if you can tell anything from that. I will take better pictures and get part numbers off of them once they get here.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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They looks good,

you will need Rotors from C30/C32/C55/CLK500/CLK550/SLK55 with or without p30,,

or you can get less weight Rotors from RB racing brakes..

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Twichel04
These are the actual calipers that I bought. Not sure if you can tell anything from that. I will take better pictures and get part numbers off of them once they get here.
there are some numbers stamped back of the calipers
look for digits 345mm
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Hey Dennis,

Where did they stamped the Rotor dia...?, i didn't see it in all calipers around me..!

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Hey Dennis,

Where did they stamped the Rotor dia...?, i didn't see it in all calipers around me..!

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hey bro
please see the backside of the caliper housing, there are lots of numbers stamped on the sides of rear caliper housing.

in this picture you can see a few manufacturers numbers
somewhere on caliper housing you will see the 345mm digits

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:01 PM
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Pay attention to the rotation direction! Some weeks ago someone here spend a lot of time on that problem and I think he found a nice solution. Search for topic C32 brakes...
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please see the backside of the caliper housing, there are lots of numbers stamped on the sides of rear caliper housing.

in this picture you can see a few manufacturers numbers
somewhere on caliper housing you will see the 345mm digits
Thankss alot bro., i saw those Brembo factory #s, but i didn't find the dia. ID of the Rotor...!

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Originally Posted by popey24
Pay attention to the rotation direction! Some weeks ago someone here spend a lot of time on that problem and I think he found a nice solution. Search for topic C32 brakes...
Hey Popey, i put C32/C55 brakes many times never had any issues..!, what kind of risky will cause about those brakes..?

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by popey24
Pay attention to the rotation direction! Some weeks ago someone here spend a lot of time on that problem and I think he found a nice solution. Search for topic C32 brakes...
Think he might be talking about me. and getting the piston orientation correct. I had to swap the piston plates and make up some hard lines to get the pistons in the right order and the bleed valve up.
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Didn't get that..!, which piston plate..?

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Well, the pistons in the caliper are not equal in size. So if if you just bolt them on the car with the bleed screws up, the larger piston will be on the first piston to apply the pressure to the disc.

Now Brembo/Mercedes didn't design it to work that way. but I've read several people doing it and personally know a guy with a c280 who bolted them on and he swears it's fine. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. It would be nice to see some stopping distance tests and data. I personally didn't run them that way.

The work around as some people do, is to swap the calipers to the different sides of the car. This will get the piston order correct but will point the bleed screws down. As well as require a brake line modification as the stock lines will be too short.

If you do not want your bleed screw down. Then bolt the calipers on the car with the bleed screws in the up position. Then unbolt the piston plates from the caliper frames and swap them to the other side of the car. This will get the pistons in the correct order as well as the bleed screws in the up position. But will still require a brake line modification and touch up paint.

This is why some people just bolt them on the car even with the piston order wrong.

Then use the sprinter brake pad sensors you suggested.
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Thanks for that useful explanation,,

100% agreed, upside down bleeder will create pressure, then pistons & seals will suicide..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Thankss alot bro., i saw those Brembo factory #s, but i didn't find the dia. ID of the Rotor...!

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my calipers have 345 digits stamped somewhere back of the calipers, check more thorough
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Well, the pistons in the caliper are not equal in size. So if if you just bolt them on the car with the bleed screws up, the larger piston will be on the first piston to apply the pressure to the disc.

Now Brembo/Mercedes didn't design it to work that way. but I've read several people doing it and personally know a guy with a c280 who bolted them on and he swears it's fine. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. It would be nice to see some stopping distance tests and data. I personally didn't run them that way.

The work around as some people do, is to swap the calipers to the different sides of the car. This will get the piston order correct but will point the bleed screws down. As well as require a brake line modification as the stock lines will be too short.

If you do not want your bleed screw down. Then bolt the calipers on the car with the bleed screws in the up position. Then unbolt the piston plates from the caliper frames and swap them to the other side of the car. This will get the pistons in the correct order as well as the bleed screws in the up position. But will still require a brake line modification and touch up paint.

This is why some people just bolt them on the car even with the piston order wrong.

Then use the sprinter brake pad sensors you suggested.
when you swapped drivers side/passengers side front piston plates to get the correct piston in order to work correctly, isn't the rear piston back plate still on the wrong side on both left/right calipers with bleeder valve pointing up.

what i'm trying to say is, the larger piston kicks in first on rear plate and on the (swapped) front plate smaller piston kicks in first???
am i wrong here?
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