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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:55 AM
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C43 cylinder #2 & #4 misfire suspect bad coils

Been having an issue with misfires on cylinders 2 & 4 but only when I go over 3500rpm or 1/2 throttle. Suspect it's the coil packs going bad along with spark plugs. CEL comes on and goes into limp mode with more than half throttle. Cant burn fuel so ECU shuts both cylinders and could down. Thoughts? I was quoted $350 to do plugs and coils in just those 2 cylinders. DIY?

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:11 AM
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if the $350 includes brand new OEM parts, then it's not extremely bad; quote is for sure on the high side, but one Bosch coil is around $80 + shipping and OEM Bosch spark plugs are around $5 /each...
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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The coils very rarely fail and if they do they usually misfire all the time.

Misfire at upper rpm/load ranges is usually due to a lean misfire caused by the MAF sensor failing. Disconnect the electrical plug on the MAF and see if it still misfires. If not then replace the MAF and reset the fuel trims with a diagnostic tool or disconnect the battery for 5 mins.
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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The coils very rarely fail and if they do they usually misfire all the time.

Misfire at upper rpm/load ranges is usually due to a lean misfire caused by the MAF sensor failing. Disconnect the electrical plug on the MAF and see if it still misfires. If not then replace the MAF and reset the fuel trims with a diagnostic tool or disconnect the battery for 5 mins.
Wouldn't there be a maf code? Occasionally my BAS and ESP light come on as well. Maf related?

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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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C43 cylinder #2 & #4 misfire suspect bad coils

Mine did the same thing. Showed misfire codes, but nothing actually indicating it was a MAF issue. Replaced MAF & it hasn't been back; no codes & it's been about 5 months.
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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Yeah, i replace "MAF & CPS" every 4/6 months,,

i'm wondering how those 2 little monsters affect directly to the Engine performance..!!

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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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Yeah, i replace "MAF & CPS" every 4/6 months,,

i'm wondering how those 2 little monsters affect directly to the Engine performance..!!

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how do you afford buying new MAF/CPS every 6 months?
are these cheap parts where you live?
do you buy Bosch or genuine MB parts or maybe something else?
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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Yeah sure, both are "Bosch",

*CPS:- around ($55)

*MAF:- around ($108)

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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yeah sure, both are "Bosch",

*CPS:- around ($55)

*MAF:- around ($108)

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Show me a new Bosch for $108
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 06:49 AM
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How you want me to show you..[!?!],,

come here to the shop near me, and take whatever quantity you wish, ($108) for a piece, and ($102) if you take more than (5) pieces..!!!

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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
How you want me to show you..[!?!],,

come here to the shop near me, and take whatever quantity you wish, ($108) for a piece, and ($102) if you take more than (5) pieces..!!!

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I'm in NC can you mail one?
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 11:34 AM
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Sure i can, shipping will be ($68), ($108+$68= $176)..!

you can get one locally cheaper, around ($150), from E-bay or Amazon:-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-Air-Mass-Flow-Sensor-MAF-OEM-Original-BOSCH-Germany-0280217810-/190772975906?hash=item2c6af49922&vxp=mtr
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 11:06 PM
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Installed brand new Bosch MAF. No change 😡
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 11:19 PM
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C43 cylinder #2 & #4 misfire suspect bad coils

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Installed brand new Bosch MAF. No change 😡
And a battery reset?
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eFifty5AMG
And a battery reset?
Yes, there goes another $240

$4,000 come and get it. Drives great under 3500rpm

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Old Sep 20, 2015 | 03:27 AM
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Try to diagnose the car first..?, codes will save more time & $$$$..!

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Old Sep 20, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Try to diagnose the car first..?, codes will save more time & $$$$..!

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PO302 cylinder 2 misfire

Pulled plugs on cylinder 2 and they look fine. Swapped cylinder 1 coil pack with cylinder 2 and cyl 2 still misfired. Wires are my guess

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Old Sep 20, 2015 | 05:39 PM
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Yeah, it might be, it's better if you can replace all plugs with wires,,

did you check if Cyl #2 injector works well..?

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Old Sep 20, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yeah, it might be, it's better if you can replace all plugs with wires,,

did you check if Cyl #2 injector works well..?

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How do I check injector?
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First put the key in position 2, then unplug the injector connector, and test the pins, if Electricity reaches to the injector, with NO cuts,,

after that star the car & see if Electricity still there continuously or not...!!

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
First put the key in position 2, then unplug the injector connector, and test the pins, if Electricity reaches to the injector, with NO cuts,,

after that star the car & see if Electricity still there continuously or not...!!

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installed new injector, new MAF, new wires, new plugs, new coil pack. Still happening. I'm done
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Strange..!, did you still have P0302 code..??

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Strange..!, did you still have P0302 code..??

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Cylinder 1,2,7

I'm guessing it's electrical
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If all "MAF/coils/plugs/wires" are fine, then could be air leak somewhere that causes bad misfires..!,

did you check all breather hoses, or MAF breather hose or MAF upper/lower o-rings..!!

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Originally Posted by MProved
installed new injector, new MAF, new wires, new plugs, new coil pack. Still happening. I'm done
Hi. Similar problem here. Misfire cylinder 2. Coils good- i change between them problem still on cylinder 2, new OE plugs installed.
The car is pulling strong for 5-150 km, then the CEL light is back on.
Always the same error.
Give me ideeas please !
First time it happend is after i stage 1 the car !
Same tuner, other c43, no problems !
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