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"True" C55 conversion question

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Old 10-09-2015, 03:59 PM
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C43 w/clk55 Organs
I wish I could compare performance, I hope to get to our local drag strip late this/ early next year, I will try get a 203 C55 to join in also

c55 conversion was offered in Japan and Oceania markets also not just Europe,Japan has a bunch of them.
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would it be possible to fit a w203 C55AMG 3.07 diff and wheel drive-shafts on C43?
the w203 C55 diff has oil cooling heatsink added which is a nice upgrade

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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
"R171 SLK55 & W203 C32/C55 & W209 CLK55", all these models comes with 3.06, with bigger W220 pumpkin, like "W208 CLK55 & facelift W210 E430/E55",,

*this bigger W220 pumpkin can be fitted in C43, if you do the frame cut upgrade, like Paul's project..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
"R171 SLK55 & W203 C32/C55 & W209 CLK55", all these models comes with 3.06, with bigger W220 pumpkin, like "W208 CLK55 & facelift W210 E430/E55",,

*this bigger W220 pumpkin can be fitted in C43, if you do the frame cut upgrade, like Paul's project..

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the other dude in previous reply said it's 3.07 for w203 c55, i thought it was just a straight swap between w202 and w203?
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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
C43 (3.07) uses smaller W210 pumpkin with (185mm), while C55 (3.06) uses W220 with (210mm) pumpkin..!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
C43 (3.07) uses smaller W210 pumpkin with (185mm), while C55 (3.06) uses W220 with (210mm) pumpkin..!

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which w210 use (185mm) 3.07 pumkin?
is it the e320, e420 or e430 cars?
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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
"R170 SLK32 & W202 C43 & W210 U.S E300TD with vin #: (210.025) & Euro W210S E280 with vin #: (210.263)",,

these are the only models which uses assembly 3.07 diff. with (185mm)..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
"R170 SLK32 & W202 C43 & W210 U.S E300TD with vin #: (210.025) & Euro W210S E280 with vin #: (210.263)",,

these are the only models which uses assembly 3.07 diff. with (185mm)..

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the 3.07 diff is it strong enuff for a 55 engine swap?
why did mb use this diff on c43, saving money??

which diff did c36 amg and c32 amg use?
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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
I'm using my C43/55 with stock 3.07 over 5 years, without any problems, also i'm using LSD/OEM Castrol oil, it's brilliant oil with more age..

*C36 with 4-speed comes with "W124" or "W210" 2.85 or 2.87, (165mm or 185mm), depend of the car spec..!

*C36 with 5-speed comes with "W124" or "W210" 3.07, (165mm or 185mm), depend of the car spec..!,,

*C32 uses 3.06 with "W220" (210mm)...

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ok, good to know, then we shouldn't worry about breaking the 3.07 diff if we use our cars for normal driving style.
thanks

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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
Diff. can't be toasted, it's strong enough,

unless if he not care about the age of the oil, & the condition of flex disc & driveshaft center bearing and the condition of "3" main diff. bearings..!!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Diff. can't be toasted, it's strong enough,

unless if he not care about the age of the oil, & the condition of flex disc & driveshaft center bearing and the condition of "3" main diff. bearings..!!

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C43 w/clk55 Organs
Zayed is correct, w203 c55 use 3.06!

In epc there is no listing for c55 housing only, however 203 c30cdi amg uses w220 case with w210 e55 cover plate, so as Zayed said the c55 pumpkin will fit but you will need rear cover plate from w208 clk55 to mate your w202 subframe

I wonder if the 203/209 subframe would drop in?, then you could use c55 cover plate and cooler

Maybe we can just retrofit me2.8 from clk55, then tune tune tuney

C55 diff/ frame has extra support option, bush relocated off to one side.





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Originally Posted by cm60k
C43 (3.07) uses smaller W210 pumpkin with (185mm), while C55 (3.06) uses W220 with (210mm) pumpkin..!

ZAYED,,
Diff in the C280 is also the same as the diff in the C43. Found this out when I decided to look into putting a quaiffe diff in my car.which I still have yet to do.

Guess the OP also never pursued this quest to put in a clk55 diff. Perhaps realized it was not worth it.

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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Diff in the C280 is also the same as the diff in the C43. Found this out when I decided to look into putting a quaiffe diff in my car.which I still have yet to do.

Guess the OP also never pursued this quest to put in a clk55 diff. Perhaps realized it was not worth it.
I didn't want to get into the issues I saw with transmission tuning. That's the short answer. I figure if I'm going to throw money at the car, I'll put it in a m113k swap.
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IIRC, this part is unique to the w202 C55. I remember reading somewhere they all had to be custom fabricated by AMG for the C55 which was special-order only. You had to buy a C43 then buy the 5.4l "upgrade" where they'd pull it back to Affalterbach and do these mods.

Sure, you can do the pumpkin swap to make it "true" but is it necessary?

Has the diff ever failed in a 43 even with 55 swap? I have literally never heard of one. And they have the same ratio and neither are LSD, so what's the point?


The 2005-2006 C55 is a W203.....NOT....W202......See Below....



Good luck with the build!

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Originally Posted by Robjr
The 2005-2006 C55 is a W203.....NOT....W202......See Below....
Good luck with the build!

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Hi Rob. There was also a W202 C55 built by AMG. See this link: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/5-awe...-of-1272649755
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Hi Rob. There was also a W202 C55 built by AMG. See this link: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/5-awe...-of-1272649755
ECTurboGSX..

I was aware of this conversion version; however, according to EPC, they do not list any W202 C55 anywhere in the world! I can see where getting parts for that conversion will give the MB parts guys migraines and nightmares! lol.....
See attached!

Again.......good luck with the build!
I'd offer to help you find parts but without that W202 C55 in the EPC, I don't think anyone but the MB Conversion team that put that those parts in that limited production model could find parts!

Rob

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disregard post didn't read back far enough

Rob, there is a parts list further back in this thread, AMG printed it only that's why not shown in EPC!



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I had forgotten about that list

Found it at post #42

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