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Old May 12, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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Part number for a camshaft

Anyone knows the part number for camshaft for c36 amg -1996. Or anyone know where i can buy one?. From what i can tell its not the same as c280 or e320.
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Old May 12, 2017 | 08:29 AM
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It should be " H WA 104 050 04 01"..

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Old May 12, 2017 | 08:46 AM
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Old May 12, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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If i'm not wrong; your Engine sharing the same Exhaust cam with all M104's..!,,

but the intake should to be modified it by AMG, with P/N "H WA 104 050 04 01"..

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Old May 12, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks Zayed. But now to the really hard part. Where to find one. Has anyone use the website http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/CAMSHA...040500401.html
or https://www.mbwholesalepartsonline.c...t-wa1040500401

They seemed to be having them for like 300-400 dollar which is alot better price then i got from the dealership which landed on like 1300 dollar.
But is that an original part or a aftermarket?
Thats like the only website that i got i hit on when o google the part number WA1040500401

Used camshaft seem to be impossible to find.

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Old May 12, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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Why you need that cam..?, what happened to yours..??

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Old May 12, 2017 | 11:18 AM
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Why you need that cam..?, what happened to yours..??

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Snapped right of just where the camsprocket is attached. No clue why. Checked the tensioner for the camchain dozen of time and i also used the car for a while. Luckily it happend when the engine was running on idle so i only cranked 2 valves from what i can tell. Gonna have it fixed on a dealership thats working on replacing valves and they gonna fix the cylinder head as soon i'm getting a hold on a used or new camshaft.
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Old May 12, 2017 | 11:32 AM
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I see & sorry to hear that,,

AMG modified the intake cam with retainers & springs,

those should to be fine together,,

honestly; don't know any good source for them..!?!

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So you dont believe in thoose sites i linked?
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Old May 12, 2017 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
I see & sorry to hear that,,

AMG modified the intake cam with retainers & springs,

those should to be fine together,,

honestly; don't know any good source for them..!?!

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So you dont believe in thoose sites i linked?
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Old May 13, 2017 | 03:58 AM
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Don't know about those links bro., their price fairly good,,

just before purchasing, check the condition of your "cam gear/retainers/springs"..

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Old May 13, 2017 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by zibpka
Anyone knows the part number for camshaft for c36 amg -1996. Or anyone know where i can buy one?. From what i can tell its not the same as c280 or e320.
I checked in the EPC and after imputing the VIN, I pulled the data card with all the option codes fitted to your vehicle.

Also I checked the camshaft (timing) info and saved the info in two .pdf files with the parts # and diagram of the separate parts.

You have all the info needed. Hope that helps
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Old May 21, 2017 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
I checked in the EPC and after imputing the VIN, I pulled the data card with all the option codes fitted to your vehicle.

Also I checked the camshaft (timing) info and saved the info in two .pdf files with the parts # and diagram of the separate parts.

You have all the info needed. Hope that helps
I dont understand.
If i check the partlist you uploaded i don't even find the part with the HWA number: 104 050 04 01

Instead it says 104 050 74 01 or 104 050 75 01
But i've already got the camshaft with the 104 050 74 01 which basically is camshaft for 320 both w124 and w210 and the w202 c280

But when i'm comparing my already broken camshaft with the 320 camshaft i got from a scrapyard the two they do NOT look exactly identical.

They also don't have any part number embossed on any of them so it's kind of hard to know exactly if you got the right one


And i don't want to take a chance.

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I dont understand.
If i check the partlist you uploaded i don't even find the part with the HWA number: 104 050 04 01

Instead it says 104 050 74 01 or 104 050 75 01
But i've already got the camshaft with the 104 050 74 01 which basically is camshaft for 320 both w124 and w210 and the w202 c280

But when i'm comparing my already broken camshaft with the 320 camshaft i got from a scrapyard the two they do NOT look exactly identical.

They also don't have any part number embossed on any of them so it's kind of hard to know exactly if you got the right one


And i don't want to take a chance.
Sorry but I can't help you more. However, I would have some doubts on such parts recovered from a scrapyard (correct type, wear, etc.)
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Old May 21, 2017 | 04:45 AM
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Sorry but I can't help you more. However, I would have some doubts on such parts recovered from a scrapyard (correct type, wear, etc.)

yeah me to but i was told by the dealership that i got the right one. But when i ask them about the part number i got from zayed then they realized they made a mistake but i had already ordered the part from the scrapyard for like a 100$ so there was no point in sending it back.
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As i remember; AMG uses "Schrick" cams with "M104/M119", and had contract agreement with them,

if there's a part # stamped on the cams, means; the cams were produced on Stuttgart from "94 to 95",

after that, MB changed the contract, and stamped the part # as "WA or AE",,

if your cams doesn't have part #, means you have an AMG cams produced from "10/95 to 04/97"..!

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Good info Zayed I have had a great experience with Schrick cams. We used them in our VW SuperV single seater. Finished the 74' European Championship 4th and 1st private team
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Originally Posted by cm60k
As i remember; AMG uses "Schrick" cams with "M104/M119", and had contract agreement with them,

if there's a part # stamped on the cams, means; the cams were produced on Stuttgart from "94 to 95",

after that, MB changed the contract, and stamped the part # as "WA or AE",,

if your cams doesn't have part #, means you have an AMG cams produced from "10/95 to 04/97"..!

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My car is from 1996 so that would put the camshaft between the year they didn't mark them.

If i would consider using the camshaft that i got from the 320, until i can find one amg model camshaft. Will my car run ?

Or what the hell should i do, Put some gasoline on it and put it on fire?
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Old May 21, 2017 | 10:10 AM
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Hehehehe, no bro., not deserve it maaaaan..,,

even if you put 280/320 cams, the car will run perfectly,,

just be sure, "cam gear/retainers/springs" are in good condition..!

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Old May 21, 2017 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Hehehehe, no bro., not deserve it maaaaan..,,

even if you put 280/320 cams, the car will run perfectly,,

just be sure, "cam gear/retainers/springs" are in good condition..!

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How many horsepowers will i lose?. Whats the difference between the 320 and the amg model camshaft. From what i can tell just by looking at it the 320 camshaft has pointer knocks and the amg camshaft is like litte fatter if you understand whan i mean. But how does this affect the car. I mean it can only open and Close the valves. What do you mean that i need to chech the retainers/springs?. Im gonna leave the head cylinder to the mechanics so they can regrinding it so it wont be any leakage, Should i also to tell them to check the springs ?
How do i chech the retainers? they are not broken from what i can see just by looking at them.

I also got a camgear already attached to the 320 camshaft

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Have to check if they not cracked or broken..!?!,

you will lose around (30>>45hp), that of course depends to the Engine/gearbox health..!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Have to check if they not cracked or broken..!?!,

you will lose around (30>>45hp), that of course depends to the Engine/gearbox health..!

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Ok Thanks. but when i get Ahold of amg camshaft i just need to lift the cover for the valves and unhook the chain and mount the new camshaft. I don't need to tear the whole Engine apart again. right?
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