C43 Coupe Fuel Economy Listed on MBUSA Website
10-12-2016, 08:14 PM
#27
Sorry bud. Thought you had other motives.
Nice try, but the C43 isn't a high performance vehicle. Don't make a fool of yourself.
Can you please do us a favor and start apples to apples? The R8 IS a high-performance vehicle. The C43 isn't.
The real AMG is just an 'experience' to my eyes. Not a car or a specific model.
A real AMG is/provides the following:
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
Happy? Yeah? That's what I thought. If you need ME to explain you what a real AMG is, I guess you've never owned one to know what it's about.
Again, please don't compare apples to oranges.
Yes, they have every right to label whatever they want as an AMG. It doesn't mean that I cannot state my opinion.
You can be assured that your C43 (very nice respectable car btw) isn't what AMG envisioned when they merged with MB.
The fact that they label it C43 AMG is just a marketing plow to get people like you to purchase an MB and(maybe?) feel better about themselves. No, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. It's the truth. MB only did this so they can keep up with BMW and Audi. M Sport and S-Line. That does NOT mean that you're driving an actual AMG. A real AMG would never have the questionable steering that you'll find in your C43. (The C63 steering isn't perfect btw, but still night and day difference).
They might not give a flying fück of what others or I think... but at the end of the day, I'm free to buy whatever I want as well. When time comes for an upgrade, I'll be considering other options because MB killed my brand loyalty by diluting it.
AMG engineers are just forced to do whatever their bosses say. I don't think they're particularly excited about what's going on. I'm sure they take a lot of pride in their work but it's not up to them.
Enjoy your C43, it's a great car. But please, don't fool yourself. When you can/will upgrade, I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.
Nice try, but the C43 isn't a high performance vehicle. Don't make a fool of yourself.
Can you please do us a favor and start apples to apples? The R8 IS a high-performance vehicle. The C43 isn't.
The real AMG is just an 'experience' to my eyes. Not a car or a specific model.
A real AMG is/provides the following:
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
Happy? Yeah? That's what I thought. If you need ME to explain you what a real AMG is, I guess you've never owned one to know what it's about.
Again, please don't compare apples to oranges.
Yes, they have every right to label whatever they want as an AMG. It doesn't mean that I cannot state my opinion.
You can be assured that your C43 (very nice respectable car btw) isn't what AMG envisioned when they merged with MB.
The fact that they label it C43 AMG is just a marketing plow to get people like you to purchase an MB and(maybe?) feel better about themselves. No, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. It's the truth. MB only did this so they can keep up with BMW and Audi. M Sport and S-Line. That does NOT mean that you're driving an actual AMG. A real AMG would never have the questionable steering that you'll find in your C43. (The C63 steering isn't perfect btw, but still night and day difference).
They might not give a flying fück of what others or I think... but at the end of the day, I'm free to buy whatever I want as well. When time comes for an upgrade, I'll be considering other options because MB killed my brand loyalty by diluting it.
AMG engineers are just forced to do whatever their bosses say. I don't think they're particularly excited about what's going on. I'm sure they take a lot of pride in their work but it's not up to them.
Enjoy your C43, it's a great car. But please, don't fool yourself. When you can/will upgrade, I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.
10-12-2016, 08:25 PM
#28
Banned
While I completely agree that the C43 is in no way a TRUE AMG, there was no need to come into this thread as a condescending a$$hole. You literally started **** for no reason and continued to displace your passive aggressive anger at everyone else lol. I say this once again, you are not wrong, but you definitely come off as an idiot.
10-12-2016, 10:37 PM
#30
Senior Member
lol - it's fun feeding the troll because he thinks he's actually making valid points.
So...a C43 isn't considered a performance vehicle because a C63S with higher performance than it exists?
So I guess I can say that a C63S isn't considered a performance vehicle either because a 3 year old GTR we have kicking around will spank it in just about every way possible. In the simplest of terms - because I think I need to dumb things down quite a bit given some members of the audience - looking at straight line speed, there's more of a performance gap between the GTR and C63S than a C63S and a C43.
Thank you to the troll in this thread for making me realize that his C63S is not a performance vehicle.
So...a C43 isn't considered a performance vehicle because a C63S with higher performance than it exists?
So I guess I can say that a C63S isn't considered a performance vehicle either because a 3 year old GTR we have kicking around will spank it in just about every way possible. In the simplest of terms - because I think I need to dumb things down quite a bit given some members of the audience - looking at straight line speed, there's more of a performance gap between the GTR and C63S than a C63S and a C43.
Thank you to the troll in this thread for making me realize that his C63S is not a performance vehicle.
The following users liked this post:
Guilty (10-12-2016)
10-12-2016, 11:42 PM
#31
MBWorld Fanatic!
A real AMG is/provides the following:
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
The steering is identical, the front axle is identical, and they both use AMG steering profiles. The only difference is the C63/C63S has an extra profile (Sport+).
10-13-2016, 01:06 AM
#33
10-13-2016, 01:53 AM
#36
ahh thanks. I'm still contemplating on when to get rid of my old 2011 w204. The centre display just looks really out of place for me personally and don't know if I should and can even wait for the facelift hoping it will be changed and integrated better. Definitely looking at the c43 coupe for the 4matic (cuz it snows where I'm at) or the c63s coupe (no explanation needed lol).
10-13-2016, 09:40 AM
#37
ahh thanks. I'm still contemplating on when to get rid of my old 2011 w204. The centre display just looks really out of place for me personally and don't know if I should and can even wait for the facelift hoping it will be changed and integrated better. Definitely looking at the c43 coupe for the 4matic (cuz it snows where I'm at) or the c63s coupe (no explanation needed lol).
god, that truly does sound ridiculous haha. I honestly would have opted for the 63 as well, but then I'd have to keep it in the garage for 4-5 months, which is a waste imo.
10-13-2016, 10:23 AM
#39
Junior Member
If a C43 is not a high performance car then I wonder what a regular non-AMG Mercedes is categorised as .
The real AMG is just an 'experience' to my eyes. Not a car or a specific model.
A real AMG is/provides the following:
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
A real AMG is/provides the following:
- One man, one engine. In my case she was actually a woman, hi Jacqueline!
- Complimentary Driving Academy session. You don't get that in your fake C43. Maybe they know that there's no need for the posers to try and learn how to drive on the race track because their car isn't a true high performance vehicle?
- AMG Logo on the keyfob
- AMG Hood
- AMG headrests
- AMG logo on dash
- AMG Brakes
- AMG spiler
- AMG floor mat (very important) add 25whp
- AMG V8 Biturbo logo
Most these things can be bought and put on any car and still won't make it a "real" AMG... so what your list is somewhat rubbish. Conversely, I could swap out many of those part such as the logos, floor mat, and spoiler and it won't change the AMG vehicle.
Yes, they have every right to label whatever they want as an AMG. It doesn't mean that I cannot state my opinion.
You can be assured that your C43 (very nice respectable car btw) isn't what AMG envisioned when they merged with MB.
The fact that they label it C43 AMG is just a marketing plow to get people like you to purchase an MB and(maybe?) feel better about themselves. No, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. It's the truth. MB only did this so they can keep up with BMW and Audi. M Sport and S-Line. That does NOT mean that you're driving an actual AMG. A real AMG would never have the questionable steering that you'll find in your C43. (The C63 steering isn't perfect btw, but still night and day difference).
They might not give a flying fück of what others or I think... but at the end of the day, I'm free to buy whatever I want as well. When time comes for an upgrade, I'll be considering other options because MB killed my brand loyalty by diluting it.
You can be assured that your C43 (very nice respectable car btw) isn't what AMG envisioned when they merged with MB.
The fact that they label it C43 AMG is just a marketing plow to get people like you to purchase an MB and(maybe?) feel better about themselves. No, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. It's the truth. MB only did this so they can keep up with BMW and Audi. M Sport and S-Line. That does NOT mean that you're driving an actual AMG. A real AMG would never have the questionable steering that you'll find in your C43. (The C63 steering isn't perfect btw, but still night and day difference).
They might not give a flying fück of what others or I think... but at the end of the day, I'm free to buy whatever I want as well. When time comes for an upgrade, I'll be considering other options because MB killed my brand loyalty by diluting it.
The steering in both cars are essentially the same the difference is the firmer suspension.
AMG engineers are just forced to do whatever their bosses say. I don't think they're particularly excited about what's going on. I'm sure they take a lot of pride in their work but it's not up to them.
Enjoy your C43, it's a great car. But please, don't fool yourself. When you can/will upgrade, I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.
Enjoy your C43, it's a great car. But please, don't fool yourself. When you can/will upgrade, I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.
The C63 is an amazing car, but they are reasons why some including myself that can afford multiple C63s still opt for a C43. In a similar way as you chose the C63 over a GTR or any other car of that tier.
Ultimately, you can spew grandiose things, but AMG makes the call. Your opinion matters as much as the next guy. No matter what you say AMG will not de-bagde the '17 C43s.
Enjoy your C63 and stop trying to berate the purchase of others.
You drive a "real AMG", good for you! Maybe AMG will make a special real AMG coffin for you when you expire.
The following users liked this post:
munis (01-18-2017)
10-13-2016, 10:38 AM
#40
10-13-2016, 11:11 AM
#41
Senior Member
What makes a high performance car? The original C43 AMG ("real" AMG) from the 90's was a high-performance car but is in every way inferior to the C43 AMG '17 models. It's all relative. A sport sedan is a high performance car. Of course there are tiers to this categorization. Just as the C63, GTR, R8, and Koenigsegg fall into the same category of high performance.
If a C43 is not a high performance car then I wonder what a regular non-AMG Mercedes is categorised as .
Since the real AMG is just an experience as you mentioned, then everyone has a different perception of that experience. You don't have to experience each person's experience in order to tell them if they had a real AMG experience.
Most these things can be bought and put on any car and still won't make it a "real" AMG... so what your list is somewhat rubbish. Conversely, I could swap out many of those part such as the logos, floor mat, and spoiler and it won't change the AMG vehicle.
It's just hilarious how much effort you are spending to discredit MB-AMG, and other peoples purchase. If the real AMG comes with your attitude then I don't want any of it.
AMG probably didn't envision a CLA when they merged so does that make the CLA 45 a fake AMG?
The steering in both cars are essentially the same the difference is the firmer suspension.
You should change your name to the AMG Engineer Whisperer since you are so informed about the inner feelings of said individuals.
The C63 is an amazing car, but they are reasons why some including myself that can afford multiple C63s still opt for a C43. In a similar way as you chose the C63 over a GTR or any other car of that tier.
Ultimately, you can spew grandiose things, but AMG makes the call. Your opinion matters as much as the next guy. No matter what you say AMG will not de-bagde the '17 C43s.
Enjoy your C63 and stop trying to berate the purchase of others.
You drive a "real AMG", good for you! Maybe AMG will make a special real AMG coffin for you when you expire.
If a C43 is not a high performance car then I wonder what a regular non-AMG Mercedes is categorised as .
Since the real AMG is just an experience as you mentioned, then everyone has a different perception of that experience. You don't have to experience each person's experience in order to tell them if they had a real AMG experience.
Most these things can be bought and put on any car and still won't make it a "real" AMG... so what your list is somewhat rubbish. Conversely, I could swap out many of those part such as the logos, floor mat, and spoiler and it won't change the AMG vehicle.
It's just hilarious how much effort you are spending to discredit MB-AMG, and other peoples purchase. If the real AMG comes with your attitude then I don't want any of it.
AMG probably didn't envision a CLA when they merged so does that make the CLA 45 a fake AMG?
The steering in both cars are essentially the same the difference is the firmer suspension.
You should change your name to the AMG Engineer Whisperer since you are so informed about the inner feelings of said individuals.
The C63 is an amazing car, but they are reasons why some including myself that can afford multiple C63s still opt for a C43. In a similar way as you chose the C63 over a GTR or any other car of that tier.
Ultimately, you can spew grandiose things, but AMG makes the call. Your opinion matters as much as the next guy. No matter what you say AMG will not de-bagde the '17 C43s.
Enjoy your C63 and stop trying to berate the purchase of others.
You drive a "real AMG", good for you! Maybe AMG will make a special real AMG coffin for you when you expire.
10-13-2016, 03:56 PM
#44
Senior Member
10-13-2016, 05:35 PM
#45
MBWorld Fanatic!
Now if they put awd 4MATIC on the c63s I would be all over that. That would be the perfect sports coupe for New England weather!!
10-13-2016, 07:08 PM
#46
Senior Member
10-13-2016, 07:28 PM
#47
I don't get the C43 hate honestly.
I could care less if my engine is hand assembled. There are tons of much more expensive cars that don't have hand assembled engines so that adds no value to me.
I once joked to a friend... well maybe if a guy named Hans built my AMG engine and I got the plaque for that it would be cool.
Given most of the rest of the car is similar other than being RWD and having a different front end (and the only reason the front end is different is the engine needs a bigger place to be) well who cares. You buy the car for your needs.
All the C63 owners sound just like M3 owners when you can always say why didnt you buy an M5.
I could afford a C63s easily. But its $20k + more for a car that for my uses is just a waste of $20k that i could spend on other things. I don't need 500 hp , when I can barely put it to the pavement with RWD, not to mention there is traffic etc. I will never use my car on a track so the tiny amount of track only performance i'd have seen is meaningless (and i don't claim to be some amazing driver, so honestly the AWD might help me on a track more if I were to really drive a real track or autocross in a C class)
So why the AMG butthurt guys? Its just a car. THey are both really good cars. If your car making you feel special is something that matters to you well, honestly see a psychologist because you have issues
I could care less if my engine is hand assembled. There are tons of much more expensive cars that don't have hand assembled engines so that adds no value to me.
I once joked to a friend... well maybe if a guy named Hans built my AMG engine and I got the plaque for that it would be cool.
Given most of the rest of the car is similar other than being RWD and having a different front end (and the only reason the front end is different is the engine needs a bigger place to be) well who cares. You buy the car for your needs.
All the C63 owners sound just like M3 owners when you can always say why didnt you buy an M5.
I could afford a C63s easily. But its $20k + more for a car that for my uses is just a waste of $20k that i could spend on other things. I don't need 500 hp , when I can barely put it to the pavement with RWD, not to mention there is traffic etc. I will never use my car on a track so the tiny amount of track only performance i'd have seen is meaningless (and i don't claim to be some amazing driver, so honestly the AWD might help me on a track more if I were to really drive a real track or autocross in a C class)
So why the AMG butthurt guys? Its just a car. THey are both really good cars. If your car making you feel special is something that matters to you well, honestly see a psychologist because you have issues
10-13-2016, 08:25 PM
#48
Senior Member
I don't get the C43 hate honestly.
I could care less if my engine is hand assembled. There are tons of much more expensive cars that don't have hand assembled engines so that adds no value to me.
I once joked to a friend... well maybe if a guy named Hans built my AMG engine and I got the plaque for that it would be cool.
Given most of the rest of the car is similar other than being RWD and having a different front end (and the only reason the front end is different is the engine needs a bigger place to be) well who cares. You buy the car for your needs.
All the C63 owners sound just like M3 owners when you can always say why didnt you buy an M5.
I could afford a C63s easily. But its $20k + more for a car that for my uses is just a waste of $20k that i could spend on other things. I don't need 500 hp , when I can barely put it to the pavement with RWD, not to mention there is traffic etc. I will never use my car on a track so the tiny amount of track only performance i'd have seen is meaningless (and i don't claim to be some amazing driver, so honestly the AWD might help me on a track more if I were to really drive a real track or autocross in a C class)
So why the AMG butthurt guys? Its just a car. THey are both really good cars. If your car making you feel special is something that matters to you well, honestly see a psychologist because you have issues
I could care less if my engine is hand assembled. There are tons of much more expensive cars that don't have hand assembled engines so that adds no value to me.
I once joked to a friend... well maybe if a guy named Hans built my AMG engine and I got the plaque for that it would be cool.
Given most of the rest of the car is similar other than being RWD and having a different front end (and the only reason the front end is different is the engine needs a bigger place to be) well who cares. You buy the car for your needs.
All the C63 owners sound just like M3 owners when you can always say why didnt you buy an M5.
I could afford a C63s easily. But its $20k + more for a car that for my uses is just a waste of $20k that i could spend on other things. I don't need 500 hp , when I can barely put it to the pavement with RWD, not to mention there is traffic etc. I will never use my car on a track so the tiny amount of track only performance i'd have seen is meaningless (and i don't claim to be some amazing driver, so honestly the AWD might help me on a track more if I were to really drive a real track or autocross in a C class)
So why the AMG butthurt guys? Its just a car. THey are both really good cars. If your car making you feel special is something that matters to you well, honestly see a psychologist because you have issues
10-13-2016, 08:36 PM
#49
No butt hurt here. I wanted the pure AMG experience. Otherwise I would have just gotten a S4 or something in the sub-400hp.
When you buy a AMG it's status, performance and style. I know when I pull along side an M3/4 or a Cayman, I have a beast who will get their respect (even without racing). With a C43, that is just not going to happen. That was a big deal for me!
When you buy a AMG it's status, performance and style. I know when I pull along side an M3/4 or a Cayman, I have a beast who will get their respect (even without racing). With a C43, that is just not going to happen. That was a big deal for me!
10-13-2016, 09:16 PM
#50
No butt hurt here. I wanted the pure AMG experience. Otherwise I would have just gotten a S4 or something in the sub-400hp.
When you buy a AMG it's status, performance and style. I know when I pull along side an M3/4 or a Cayman, I have a beast who will get their respect (even without racing). With a C43, that is just not going to happen. That was a big deal for me!
When you buy a AMG it's status, performance and style. I know when I pull along side an M3/4 or a Cayman, I have a beast who will get their respect (even without racing). With a C43, that is just not going to happen. That was a big deal for me!
I don't think the true problem lies within MB diluting the brand, but rather the brand being diluted by owners with toxic mindsets. I really don't see the need to get angry at other members because they decided to purchase a car for their needs, not because they want/demand respect from total strangers
