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C43 AMG Oil Change (For those who wants to do it a bit early)
Hey Guys,
I think some of us here usually like to take a more conservative approach to oil changes than the factory recommended schedule and do it a bit earlier than what is recommended. I will be hitting 10000km in a week and I plan to get mine done then. Just the oil and filter change and then I will go back to MB for the Service 1 @ 20k. We can just generally discuss some oil preferences, and what you guys usually use. I will probably be going with Mobil 1 5W-40 Euro Spec, which meets the MB229.5 standard. Please feel free to suggest something otherwise.
Also does anyone here know the exact amount of oil this car needs during an oil change? Any info is appreciated.
I think mine used just over 5qt. I had two 5 qt containers on hand and I don't remember exactly how much was extracted and replaced.
I used Mobile 1 0-40W. I changed it at just under 6000mi (1st oil change).
I used an electric extraction pump. I bought the filter element online. I didn't use MB brand, instead I purchased from one of MBs OEMs with their house brand on the box. This got me the exact same product for a little over half the cost. I did not need a filter strap wrench to remove it. I just unscrewed it by hand. It was snug but it came off with a little persistence.
There is a DIY on the W205 forum for changing oil with an extraction pump. A search should find it.
I think some of us here usually like to take a more conservative approach to oil changes than the factory recommended schedule and do it a bit earlier than what is recommended. I will be hitting 10000km in a week and I plan to get mine done then. Just the oil and filter change and then I will go back to MB for the Service 1 @ 20k. We can just generally discuss some oil preferences, and what you guys usually use. I will probably be going with Mobil 1 5W-40 Euro Spec, which meets the MB229.5 standard. Please feel free to suggest something otherwise.
Also does anyone here know the exact amount of oil this car needs during an oil change? Any info is appreciated.
Why 5-40 vs 0-40? 5-40 is within the spec range, but Mobile 1 0-40 is the most recommended North American oil and is what most of our cars (sedans from Vance, AL) left the factory with.
I think some of us here usually like to take a more conservative approach to oil changes than the factoryrecommended schedule and do it a bit earlier than what is recommended. I will be hitting 10000km in a week and I plan to get mine done then. Just the oil and filter change and then I will go back to MB for the Service 1 @ 20k. We can just generally discuss some oil preferences, and what you guys usually use. I will probably be going with Mobil 1 5W-40 Euro Spec, which meets the MB229.5 standard. Please feel free to suggest something otherwise.
Also does anyone here know the exact amount of oil this car needs during an oil change? Any info is appreciated.
Isn't that way too early? Considering you're doing it in Km? The manual states 12 mos or 10,000mi. That's like 16,000km. I guess if you wanna do it 6,000km early... the capacity is 6.5li.
Yes, the capacity of 6.5L, verified by my service rep. Also those of you who are using extraction pump, the pump really does not successfully suck up all the oil in the engine. There is a lot left. The best way is to drain from the bottom.
Yes, the capacity of 6.5L, verified by my service rep. Also those of you who are using extraction pump, the pump really does not successfully suck up all the oil in the engine. There is a lot left. The best way is to drain from the bottom.
Did you ask the service advisor how MB changes oil on their vehicles? Hint, it doesn't involve the drain plug
You can climb under if you want, but it's just personal preference and has no bearing on the efficacy of the oil change.
Just adhere to the manufacturer suggested service intervals. This isn't the crap dinosaur oil of the 1950s. Synthetic oil tech has made leaps and bounds as far as longevity and long term viscosity. Your motor is in no more danger than a car running dino oil for 3,000 miles.
Waste of money and a risk of warranty voidance. But hey, whatever makes you happy I guess.
Waste of money and a risk of warranty voidance. But hey, whatever makes you happy I guess.
Early oil change voiding warranty. That is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on a car forum.
Nobody made any claim about the longevity of the oil. The reason for the early change is either:
1. Many do not trust running a full interval for the initial (break-in) oil change. I am in this camp.
2. Some people do not trust extended oil change intervals...period. Personally, I think this is a bit old school but it is important to note that not all synth oils are equal. Regardless, early oil changes are never going to hurt an engine unless you screw something up.
I'm OK running mobile one out to 10K miles. I've been doing it for many years in vehicles ranging from a 3cyl 1st gen Honda Insight to an 5.4 F150 Lariat and a Toyota econobox. Mobile 1 works just fine at extended intervals. People over on Bob Is The Oil Guy have posted oil analysis on Mobile 1 out to much longer intervals then 10K and the properties were still nominal.
I've seen plenty of oil analysis' from Blackstone laboratories that show full synthetic oil showing no signs of breakdown at 10,000 miles on multiple different engine configurations from high output turbo'd 4 cylinders to big block V8's.
And as far as "the dumbest yada yada yada on a car forum".... You may not be able to think outside of the box and imagine different scenarios, but a car manufacturer could feasibly void a portion of your warranty for using a non MB approved oil and/or filter; or over/under filling. Most often in a situation when you're on a lease and you have prepaid/mandatory maintenance. If something goes south on the motor, and they can prove it's possibly due to a DIY oil change (or whatever project), you bet your *** they will.
I've heard this through the forum grapevine that it happened to someone with a Gallardo. Had to pay for a ~$80k motor out of pocket.
I've seen plenty of oil analysis' from Blackstone laboratories that show full synthetic oil showing no signs of breakdown at 10,000 miles on multiple different engine configurations from high output turbo'd 4 cylinders to big block V8's.
Yep, totally agree. My keep all my OCI at factory recommended or 10k mi whichever is less.
And as far as "the dumbest yada yada yada on a car forum".... You may not be able to think outside of the box and imagine different scenarios, but a car manufacturer could feasibly void a portion of your warranty for using a non MB approved oil and/or filter; or over/under filling. Most often in a situation when you're on a lease and you have prepaid/mandatory maintenance. If something goes south on the motor, and they can prove it's possibly due to a DIY oil change (or whatever project), you bet your *** they will.
Bolded text would qualify as screwing up. Otherwise, complete BS. Early oil changes are not going to hurt an engine and they certainly won't void a warranty.
I am not doing it myself. I will be taking it to a shop. Not mercedes cause $200 for an oil change does not make sense. I will be sticking to a 10000km interval. So the second oil change will be at 20k at Service 1 @ the Dealership. I am going to get Mobil 1 5W-40 Euro Spec which meets MB229.5 spec. Filter going to buy from Mercedes service center, and then just get it done.
Mr. J, I dunno I have seen several videos where it said using oil extractor does not get rid of all the oil. Out of the two which one do you think is better? If the easiness of it is not in question?
Another tip - if you're keen on changing the oil yourself, make the small investment and purchase a Fumoto valve. A little bit slower, but infinitely worth the convenience of never dropping a plug in to your catch or dripping hot oil on yourself.
Another tip - if you're keen on changing the oil yourself, make the small investment and purchase a Fumoto valve. A little bit slower, but infinitely worth the convenience of never dropping a plug in to your catch or dripping hot oil on yourself.
Great tip!
I have one on my F150 and it makes life and DIY oil changes so much simpler!
Great tip!
I have one on my F150 and it makes life and DIY oil changes so much simpler!
Quick follow-up on this point - if anyone goes the Fumoto Valve route, be sure to buy the XS model. The M276 oil pan has a slightly recessed drain bolt and a steel protected line that runs just above, both of which prevent the standard model from being able to twist in.
Changed the oil at 9500mi yesterday...
7qts Mobil1 0w-40 synth - $48.24
Genuine MB oil filter - $20.40
Saved $230 over visiting the stealership
i just bought oem mercedes filter part number 276 180 0009 and oem filter wrench socket part number 103 589 0209 00. Will be using Mobile One 0w-40. Changing at 4500 miles to get all engine break in crud out. will change again at 10,000 miles to get on the 10,000 mile schedule.
as said above, with todays full synthetic oil, there is really not a worry about breaking down the oil before 10,000 miles or even 15,000 miles. but if you track car or drive harder, its usually advised to change at 10,000 miles max.
I do a break in early oil change to get out any metal and debris from engine break in. working at an auto supplier and seeing the crud we take out of pans after a break in dyno test really encourages the early break in change on a new car. just my .02 cents. its pretty cheap peace of mind if doing yourself especially if you plan to keep car a while.
Nice video. Question: Why didn't you get a larger capacity pump to extract all the oil in one shot?
That is the size they come in, at least it's the only size I've seen.
It's exactly what I have and works great for cars, lawn mowers, ATVs, pressure washers, Jet Skis, boats etc..
I would not want a bigger one even if they came bigger.
Quick follow-up on this point - if anyone goes the Fumoto Valve route, be sure to buy the XS model. The M276 oil pan has a slightly recessed drain bolt and a steel protected line that runs just above, both of which prevent the standard model from being able to twist in.
Changed the oil at 9500mi yesterday...
7qts Mobil1 0w-40 synth - $48.24
Genuine MB oil filter - $20.40
Saved $230 over visiting the stealership
which size fumoto valve did you go with? i searched "find my valve" but C43 doesnt have any infomation.
2017 AMG C43, AWE Touring, BMC Air Filters- 2015 BMW X3 3.5i (JB1 Equipped)
So what is the verdict on the oil weight?
I used 5W40 in mine when I changed it and that is in mercedes spec 229.5.
Are we saying that both oil weights are correct?
What is the factory fill weight?
BTW I changed my break in oil at 1500mi, say what you want but I do this with all of my vehicles. I bought some Race Ramps for $220 to get at the car from underneath- I will never use a vacuum pump out of the dipstick, that,s just me- I love to wrench. You have to remove a plastic panel to get to the oil drain plug and the filter is easily accessible from the engine bay.
I used Amsoil European Formula 5w40 and the original MB element.
Surprising that after 1500mi the factory oil was black already, not filthy black but dark colored, my Amsoil after 5000mi is still clear gold.
BTW my opinion, but every manufacturer finds way to cut costs, so maybe the factory fill oil is a lesser quality than a reputable brand I can buy off the shelf.
Anyway like they said its cheap insurance for $50 it cost me. I wipe my *** with that
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