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Old 04-06-2017, 10:00 AM
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Need Help deciding between C43, C63s, GLC63

First post on here after being a long time reader. I previously had an 06 C350 4Matic and it was hands down my favorite car I've owned. I currently live in MN and drive a 16 High Altitude Grand Cherokee that I am debating trading in or not. I have a work vehicle that's a base explorer, so why keep 2 big SUV's when I could possibly trade in the jeep for one of the following...

1. 2018 C43 Coupe - I've seen some of the new options and they are SLICK. There is a new AMG Black package coming. My dealership said we could likely order in May.
2. They have a 2016 C63s (Sedan), but lacking many of the options I really want and not the color I want. But a STEAL of a price.
3. Wait it out for the GLC63 later in 2017 / 2018??

I get it this isnt really an "issue" as I do not need a new vehicle, but I do not see the practicality of having two big SUV's. Id like to have something fun to drive that matches the interior features of my fully loaded Jeep. Anyway, my concerns...

1. C43 Coupe is probably the most practical with the AWD in MN. Coming from a Grand Cherokee, I dont know that the difference between 4.6 and 4.0, 0-60 times with the C43 vs C63 will really be that noticeable for me.

2. RWD in snow and having to change tires... not for me, but this one is my dream car, albeit in the wrong color and missing some options. Anyone else in a snowy area have a 63 or 63s?

3. GLC63 seems to be the best of all worlds. AWD, Coupe Styling, hatch back, and the V8 Bi-Turbo. Who knows when they will hit stateside though

$$ is not a huge sticking point, but if I have a base explorer, I'd like my weekend car to have all the interior options (vented seats, HUD, ect) that I want. Leaning toward the C43 Coupe, but want to hear from those who have been down this road already.

Thanks!
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Can't help you with most of your "dilemma" -a good one to have- but I'm happy with my C43 except for the one option I wanted that my car doesn't- 360 cameras. It bugs me every once in awhile, but if you're spending as much money on the C63 as you will, it better be very close in the options you want. IMO.

There re is a thread in the C63 sub forum where a gent was asking a similar question. Lives in the U.K. and was worried about the frequent wet roads and the RWD. Most said it would be sporty but doable. From that discussion, it wouldn't seem to be much fun using that power on icy or slushy roads. I'm sure there are plenty of northern C63 owners though that could chime in over there.
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One key question is how often you want to drive the car. If you already have an SUV would that not be your option on snow days? I am going with a C43 as a daily driver, but if it was pure second car the C63 would probably be more fun on dry roads.
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Yeah it will be a second car for sure. I only put 4600 miles on my Jeep in a year- most of those being summer miles but I did like knowing I could actually use it in the winter.

If the 63s had all the options I wanted id go for it but that seems to be my limiting factor. Perhaps putting one on order may be the way to go. Not that the price is a huge limitation but 80k for a weekend car half the year is a good chunk of change. Then im thinking if i go big GLC63 then.
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First post on here after being a long time reader. I previously had an 06 C350 4Matic and it was hands down my favorite car I've owned. I currently live in MN and drive a 16 High Altitude Grand Cherokee that I am debating trading in or not. I have a work vehicle that's a base explorer, so why keep 2 big SUV's when I could possibly trade in the jeep for one of the following...

1. 2018 C43 Coupe - I've seen some of the new options and they are SLICK. There is a new AMG Black package coming. My dealership said we could likely order in May.
2. They have a 2016 C63s (Sedan), but lacking many of the options I really want and not the color I want. But a STEAL of a price.
3. Wait it out for the GLC63 later in 2017 / 2018??

I get it this isnt really an "issue" as I do not need a new vehicle, but I do not see the practicality of having two big SUV's. Id like to have something fun to drive that matches the interior features of my fully loaded Jeep. Anyway, my concerns...

1. C43 Coupe is probably the most practical with the AWD in MN. Coming from a Grand Cherokee, I dont know that the difference between 4.6 and 4.0, 0-60 times with the C43 vs C63 will really be that noticeable for me.

2. RWD in snow and having to change tires... not for me, but this one is my dream car, albeit in the wrong color and missing some options. Anyone else in a snowy area have a 63 or 63s?

3. GLC63 seems to be the best of all worlds. AWD, Coupe Styling, hatch back, and the V8 Bi-Turbo. Who knows when they will hit stateside though

$$ is not a huge sticking point, but if I have a base explorer, I'd like my weekend car to have all the interior options (vented seats, HUD, ect) that I want. Leaning toward the C43 Coupe, but want to hear from those who have been down this road already.

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The GLC63 does not exist as a production model yet. There is no release date for it. Speculation over on the AMG PL ranges from late 2017 to mid 2018. It could easily be late 2018 before this care is shipping to US dealers. The GLC63 will be similarly proportioned to the GLC43, so it's a smallish SUV. Since you already have 2 SUVs, this choice seems odd.

For MN I would lean towards the C43 since you'll be able to drive it more often. The C63 absolutely must have winter tires if you intend to drive in snow and ice. The C43 will do fine in light snow with top quality all season tires. I have Michelin Pilot AS3+ on my C450 and they perform as claimed. Great traction in both dry and winter conditions.

If we exclude the carbon ceramic brake option from any comparisons, the main distinction between the C43 and the C63 comes down to engines, exhaust, and rwd.

C63 is noticeably faster, the C63S is even faster still. The 43 is a very quick car but the C63s is in a class above.

You'll never get a V8 rumble from a V6 engine/exhaust combo. The C43 with perf exhaust is one of the best sounding V6 out there right now IMO. But it still doesn't have the thunderous base of the C63s.

Some ppl love to play with oversteer others like a car that feels like it's on rails when you punch it through a corner. Do you like to play with oversteer and whip the rear around a little every now and then? I think this is probably the biggest consideration that gets overshadowed by opinions of the V6 vs V8. RWD vs 4matic represents a huge difference in driving characteristics in cars with this much torque.
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I have literally 100% of my driving life been in AWD drive vehicle, so i am used to feeling on the rails. The RWD factor is appealing to me but i am concerned about spinning that thing out with that much power.

I like the idea of the GLC as a smallish SUV not being a JGC and Explorer. Im most likely only going to have 2 vehicles vs 3. I dont really want to wait that long for the GLC63 too. If anything youd figure 2-3 years down the road is a better time to buy one of those anyway vs a first year model.

Slightly leaning toward the C43 for the practicality of it, plus it give me a step up to aspire for ha. If i didnt live in MN or the C63 had an awd variant then it would be a no brainer.
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Let's say you do get rid of your personal vehicle, the Jeep, and you have use of the company's Explorer..... How much can you abuse the privilege of using the company vehicle for personal use? Can you take the company vehicle on a road trip with the spouse, kids, family dog?
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I wouldn't bother with the GLC, I like your logic. Get a car and if you are doing 4600 miles, go for the C63 Coupe and get the stuff you want. You only live once and if this is a "dream" car, then don't settle! It will bug you forever and a day...especially if you have the means.


I had two C63s (see my sig) and my snow level matches yours for sure. I had Blizzaks on and honestly it was a pain in the ****. A challenge, no question about it. My wife would drive it when I had her car for hockey practice and stuff and , really, not a safe place to be. Obviously, plowed roads and salted roads are perfectly fine but when it snows, pretty lousy traction...just too much torque.


C43 is a great daily driver, but if you have another car, there is nothing that gives the sensation of driving a high powered RWD car. Nothing.
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Having the exact same dilemma. Other small differentiators I've been kicking around:

*C43 is slightly smaller (~2" shorter, 2" narrower)
*C43 lighter weight and in reviews it scores better for handling than C63/C63S
*Tunes are available to bring C43 HP into the 400's
*C63 looks more muscular and a blast to drive but overkill 99% of the time

Which one retains value better?
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Originally Posted by jfriedman8
Yeah it will be a second car for sure. I only put 4600 miles on my Jeep in a year- most of those being summer miles but I did like knowing I could actually use it in the winter.

If the 63s had all the options I wanted id go for it but that seems to be my limiting factor. Perhaps putting one on order may be the way to go. Not that the price is a huge limitation but 80k for a weekend car half the year is a good chunk of change. Then im thinking if i go big GLC63 then.
Well I had a Jaguar S Type R which was 400 HP rear wheel drive (ok not quite as bonkers as a C63) and with snows there was only a handful of days a year where driving it was an issue and I live in Boston. So if you have an AWD SUV as a second car I think you could drive a C63 85% of the time when the roads are dry without any issue at all. I personally would not buy a GLC if I already had an SUV, but to each his own. I am ignoring the obvious issue of cost to buy and operates C43 VS a C63 is significant.
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I wouldn't bother with the GLC, I like your logic. Get a car and if you are doing 4600 miles, go for the C63 Coupe and get the stuff you want. You only live once and if this is a "dream" car, then don't settle! It will bug you forever and a day...especially if you have the means.
You make a good point about it bugging me. I really like how the C43 drives, but man it would bug me the rare occasion I'd see a 63 on the road with me.

The GLC idea is really the best of both worlds in my case. I really need a hatch - I carry baseball equipment and a Yeti 50 with me at all times, but I liked the C Coupe so much I was willing to compromise. I liked the 440i xDrive Gran Coupe, but no ventilated seats and wanted too much for it. In that case only I'd be ok with two SUV's especially with one being of the smaller variety and well, being a 4.0L V8 Biturbo.

Another posted made a good point. Operating cost... What's the difference of owning the C43 vs C63? Im fine with the up front cost, but I cant stand having to deal with constantly having to sink money into it.

I may be wrong, but dont the "real" AMG's hold their value better?
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I may be wrong, but dont the "real" AMG's hold their value better?
They depreciate like crazy. Unless you own an SLS, your AMG ain't holding its value at all.
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Take a look at post 21in this thread

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I would get the C43 and call it a day. Why spend the $$$ on a C63 when this'll happen

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I would get the C43 and call it a day. Why spend the $$$ on a C63 when this'll happen

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There would be an AMG Black package for the C43? What?
But it's only an appearance package. It won't make the car an actual black series car
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I think there is only 2 logical reasons to choose the 43 over the 63: Price & snow logistics.

So if price isn't an option whatsoever, then go 63. If money is kind of an issue or it would be smarter to spend less, then go 43. You can be like me an spend $2000 and have the same amount of power as a 63...

As far as snow, if you're going to be driving in just a little bit of snow every now and then, still go 63. You can easily manage it with some snow tires on there. I needed AWD as I drive up to a ski resort 50+ days a winter in deep deep snow. The 3.0l v6 does sound great on it's own merit, but if you can, I highly suggest listening to a 4.0l v8 all day every day over it.

Both cars are fantastic and you can't go wrong.
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I think some folks are confused about the "AMG Night Package option" and the "AMG Black Series Vehicles". These are two very different things.

The Night Package is an appearance option that is offered for most AMG vehicles. It replaces much of the bright chrome with black anodized trim. Rear diffusers and front valances are also blacked out with this option. It has no effect upon performance it is simply an appearance option.

An AMG Black Series vehicle is a limited edition AMG coupe with serious performance mods added by AMG. These are all rare limited edition vehicles, they are not built in regular production cycles like the standard models. There is no W205 black series in production yet. It is rumored to be in development and there are some images of suspected test cars floating around on the internet.
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These are the two packages.
322 is C43 only.

521 AMG Night Package
C43: C43 Available with 661, 604 and 606 wheels only
 P55: High-gloss black elements: front splitter, rear diffuser insert, exhaust tailpipes
$ tbd
$ tbd
C63 & C63S:
 P60: High-gloss black elements: A-wing along w/trim strip on front bumper, side skirts, exterior mirror covers, window trim, trim above rear diffuser and exhaust tailpipes
 Silver-chrome elements: Lamella grille


322 AMG Performance Studio Package: 
AMG Night Package (P55)
 AMG Performance Steering Wheel (281)
 “Edition” badge on cup holder cover (can be deselected with U81)
 Front grille with black pins instead of chrome and AMG logo
 19” AMG matte black Multi-Spoke Wheels with high sheen rim flange (RVD)  High-gloss black elements: Side sill inserts and trunk lid spoiler
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c63s ALL DAY!

I think there is only 2 logical reasons to choose the 43 over the 63: Price & snow logistics.

So if price isn't an option whatsoever, then go 63. If money is kind of an issue or it would be smarter to spend less, then go 43. You can be like me an spend $2000 and have the same amount of power as a 63...

As far as snow, if you're going to be driving in just a little bit of snow every now and then, still go 63. You can easily manage it with some snow tires on there. I needed AWD as I drive up to a ski resort 50+ days a winter in deep deep snow. The 3.0l v6 does sound great on it's own merit, but if you can, I highly suggest listening to a 4.0l v8 all day every day over it.

Both cars are fantastic and you can't go wrong.
I would be close to 50 days in snow. I think at this point, the only way I'd go C63, is if I can get a killer deal on one too good to refuse.

As far as your tune... Who did and and what do tunes do to warranty? I'd be very interested in that... (Ive never had a car modded, so excuse my ignorance)

Man, if MB made a hatch/sportback 4Matic with a 63 engine, this would be MUCH easier!
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GLC 63 Due In June.

If you order now you might be able to pick one up late 2017.

Announcement posted in AMG PL below:




Mercedes-AMG combines Performance SUV with V8 expertise

Dear AMG Private Lounge members,

As early as 1999 Mercedes-AMG set a milestone with the ML 55 – not only in its own 50 year history. For the combination of high-performance engine in the skin of an SUV opened up an entirely new market segment. The performance and sports car brand now occupies a unique position in the competition again as it presents its new mid-size performance SUV at the New York International Auto Show (NYIAS), the Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ SUV and Coupé (fuel consumption combined: 10.7-10.3 l/100 km; CO2 emissions, combined: 244-234 g/km) plus the Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ SUV and Coupé (fuel consumption combined: 10.7 l/100 km; CO2 emissions (combined): 244 g/km). For the first time, a mid-size SUV is now also available with the powerful eight-cylinder biturbo in two output variants. The basis for this is provided by the AMG 4.0 litre V8 engine with 350 kW (476 hp) or 375 kW (510 hp) in the GLC 63 S and GLC 63 S Coupé variants. Acceleration from 0 100 km/h in just 3.8 seconds also impressively demonstrates: the new SUVs hold a special position in their market segment. The Performance SUVs also feature air spring suspension with adaptive adjustable damping, AMG Performance 4MATIC+ all-wheel drive with fully variable torque distribution, a rear-axle limited-slip differential and a high-performance braking system. As a visual indication of their links with Mercedes-AMG sports cars, the new models sport the AMG Panamericana grille, which was previously reserved for the AMG GT family. In addition, the new models offer all the advantages of a Mercedes-SUV: ample room for passengers and luggage, comprehensive array of safety equipment and superior traction, also in the wet or in wintry road conditions.

The new Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ and Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ Coupé occupy exceptional positions in their respective markets on every front. They are the only vehicles in their segment to be powered by an eight-cylinder biturbo engine. Mercedes-AMG thus meets the wishes of those customers who, also in a mid-size Performance SUV, are looking for a combination of superior power delivery along with a highly emotive, unmistakable engine sound.

"For us, the new GLC 63 4MATIC+ is a quite special vehicle. It is no easy job designing an SUV to be highly sporty and dynamic while at the same time offering inherent extreme driving stability. This required us to put our heart and soul, along with our many years of SUV expertise, into the development of this vehicle. The result is an SUV that can be driven with high precision and agility and which, if required, is equally at home on a high-speed lap of the race track. With our V8 biturbo engine, we hold a decisive USP in the Performance market. What is more, with SUV and Coupé, we offer the widest choice in the segment. Also, the technical closeness to our sports cars is visually underlined by the Panamericana grille, which was previously reserved for our AMG GT models," says Tobias Moers, CEO of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.

Technical data at a glance

AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+

Engine: 4.0-litre V8 with direct injection and twin turbochargers
Displacement: 3982 cc
Output: 350 kW (476 hp) at 5500-6250 rpm
Max. torque: 650 Nm at 1750-4500 rpm
Drive system: AMG Performance 4MATIC+ permanent all-wheel drive with variable torque distribution
Transmission; AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9-speed sports transmission
Combined fuel consumption combined: 10.7–10.3 l/100 km
Combined CO2 emissions: 244-234 g/km
Efficiency class: F
Weight (DIN/EC): 1925 kg*/ 2000 kg**
Acceleration 0-100 km/h: 4.0 s
Top speed: 250 km/h***

AMG GLC 63 S 4MATIC+

Engine: 4.0-litre V8 with direct injection and twin turbochargers
Displacement: 3982 cc
Output: 375 kW (510 hp) at 5500-6250 rpm
Max. torque: 700 Nm at 1750-4500 rpm
Drive system: AMG Performance 4MATIC+ permanent all-wheel drive with variable torque distribution
Transmission; AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9 speed sports transmission
Combined fuel consumption combined: 10.7 l/100 km
Combined CO2 emissions: 244 g/km
Efficiency class: F
Weight (DIN/EC): 1935 kg*/ 2010 kg**
Acceleration 0-100 km/h: 3.8 s
Top speed: 250 km/h***

AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ Coupé

Engine: 4.0-litre V8 with direct injection and twin turbochargers
Displacement: 3982 cc
Output: 350 kW (476 hp) at 5500-6250 rpm
Max. torque: 650 Nm at 1750-4500 rpm
Drive system: AMG Performance 4MATIC+ permanent all-wheel drive with variable torque distribution
Transmission; AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9-speed sports transmission
Combined fuel consumption combined: 10.7–10.3 l/100 km
Combined CO2 emissions: 244-234 g/km
Efficiency class: E
Weight (DIN/EC): 1935 kg*/ 2010 kg**
Acceleration 0-100 km/h: 4.0 s
Top speed: 250 km/h***

AMG GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ Coupé

Engine: 4.0-litre V8 with direct injection and twin turbochargers
Displacement: 3982 cc
Output: 375 kW (510 hp) at 5500-6250 rpm
Max. torque: 700 Nm at 1750-4500 rpm
Drive system: AMG Performance 4MATIC+ permanent all-wheel drive with variable torque distribution
Transmission; AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9 speed sports transmission
Combined fuel consumption combined: 10.7 l/100 km
Combined CO2 emissions: 244 g/km
Efficiency class: F
Weight (DIN/EC): 1945 kg*/ 2020 kg**
Acceleration 0-100 km/h: 3.8 s
Top speed: 250 km/h***
* Kerb weight according to DIN, without driver; ** Kerb weight according to EC, with driver and weight (68 kg + 7 kg), *** Electronically governed

Unique offering in the segment with V8 biturbo engine

SUV and Coupé are available as basic and S-model variants: the proven AMG 4.0-litre V8 biturbo engine puts out 350 kW (476 hp) or 375 kW (510 hp) with a max. torque of 650 or 700 Nm. Acceleration from zero to 100 km/h is completed by the GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ in just 3.8 seconds, while the GLC 63 4MATIC+ takes 4.0 seconds. The top speed is 250 km/h (electronically limited).

V8 biturbo closely related to engine in the Mercedes-AMG GT

The 4.0-litre eight-cylinder biturbo engine is already used in numerous AMG Performance vehicles. It is also installed in the AMG GT sports car with dry sump lubrication. A characteristic feature is that the two turbochargers are positioned not on the outside of the cylinder banks, but inside the cylinder "V". The main advantages of this design are the compact engine construction, optimal response and low exhaust gas emissions. One mechanic assembles each engine in the engine shop in Affalterbach according to the "one man – one engine" principle.

Short shift times, high efficiency: the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9-speed transmission

The new GLC 63 4MATIC+ and GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ feature the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9-speed transmission, which made its debut in the Mercedes-AMG E 63 4MATIC+. The driver benefits from extremely short shift/response times. Fast multiple downshifts and the double-declutching function make for a highly emotive gearshift experience. A start-off wet clutch replaces the torque converter. This saves weight and optimises the response to the driver's accelerator pedal input, particularly on acceleration and during load changes.

AMG Performance 4MATIC+ variable all-wheel drive

After the E-Class from Mercedes-AMG, the GLC, too, now comes with AMG Performance 4MATIC+ all-wheel drive. This intelligent system unites the advantages of different drive concepts: the fully variable torque distribution to the front and rear axles ensures optimal traction right up to the physical limit. The driver is also able to rely on high driving stability and handling safety under all conditions, both in the dry and in the wet or in snow. The transition from rear-wheel to all-wheel drive and vice versa is seamless, because intelligent control is integrated into the overall vehicle system architecture.

An electromechanically controlled clutch connects the permanently driven rear axle fully variably to the front axle. The best possible torque distribution is continuously computed according to the driving conditions and driver's input. Transitions are seamless and based on a sophisticated matrix. Alongside traction and lateral dynamics, the all-wheel drive also improves the longitudinal dynamics for even more powerful acceleration.

For a personalised experience: AMG DYNAMIC SELECT drive programs

The four AMG DYNAMIC SELECT drive programs "Comfort", "Sport", "Sport Plus" and "Individual" allow the driver to extensively influence the characteristics of the GLC E 63 4MATIC+. This modifies key parameters, such as the response of engine, transmission, suspension, steering, ESP® and all-wheel drive. Independently of the DYNAMIC SELECT drive programs, the driver has the option of pressing the "M" button to switch directly to manual mode, in which gearshifts are executed exclusively using the shift paddles on the steering wheel. The suspension settings can also be specially selected if required.

"Comfort" is the balanced drive program with a comfort-oriented suspension and steering set-up as well as a fuel-efficient powertrain configuration with early upshifts – including smooth gearshifts and a restrained engine sound. The ECO start/stop function and coasting function are activated. This is how it works: When the driver releases the accelerator in a speed range between 60 and 160 km/h, the clutch of the MCT transmission opens and the engine is decoupled from the powertrain. The electronics lower the engine speed to idle and driving resistance is reduced by the compression and friction forces of the engine on overrun.

The DYNAMIC SELECT "Sport" and "Sport Plus" drive programs are designed for high driving dynamics. This results from an agile accelerator pedal characteristic with direct set-up and emotively appealing gearshifts with shorter shift times and double-clutching function on downshifts. The increased idle speed in "Sport Plus" also enables especially fast pull-away and acceleration from rest.

The GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ has an additional "RACE" drive program, in which all the parameters are configured for maximum performance. With a total of five drive programs, the Performance SUV once again offers the widest choice in the segment.

Exhaust system with flap technology for variable engine sound

The as-standard typical V8 engine sound comes courtesy of an exhaust system with flap technology. It is controlled by a map and automatically operated depending on the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT drive program, the power demanded by the driver and the engine speed. Optionally available is the Performance exhaust system, which allows the sound to be modulated at the press of a button. In any case, the exhaust systems are so designed that all noise limits are complied with irrespective of the flap position.

Specific suspension for maximum lateral and longitudinal dynamics

The agility, highly dynamic lateral acceleration and maximum grip of the new models are also thanks to the new AMG suspension with fully supporting multi-chamber air suspension, which ensures exceptionally high levels of camber stability, driving dynamics and steering precision.

The front axle features a four-link design with special steering knuckles, optimised elastokinematics and radial brake connections. Independent wheel control and wheel suspension elements enable higher lateral acceleration with minimal torque steer.

The concept for the rear axle was carried over from the E 63 4MATIC+ and specially matched to the requirements of the GLC. The model-specific multi-link concept impresses with highly precise wheel control and increased stiffness. The AMG-specific rear axle carrier makes the wider track possible in comparison with the GLC from Mercedes-Benz, while the contact surfaces of the wheel bearings have also been moved further outwards. Other measures include AMG-specific wheel carriers, stiffer elastokinematic tuning and higher negative camber.

Individual driving experience thanks to three-chamber air suspension system

Thanks to a sporty spring and damper set-up and continuously variable damping, the new three-chamber air suspension system combines exemplary driving dynamics with excellent road roar and tyre vibration characteristics. The stiffness of the air springs can be adjusted over a wide range by activating or deactivating individual air chambers, making for perceptibly enhanced comfort and handling.

There are three degrees of spring tuning, depending on the selected drive program and current driving status. The spring rate is hardened automatically in the event of sudden load changes, fast cornering, heavy acceleration or heavy braking, this effectively reducing roll and pitch while stabilising the Performance SUV.

The adaptive damping can be set in three stages – "Comfort", "Sport" and "Sport Plus" – to choose between relaxed comfort on long journeys and maximum sportiness. The rebound and compression levels are adjusted independently of each other, and the freely programmable maps permit a wide spread between minimum and maximum damper force. The difference between the comfortable and sporty suspension settings is made more refined and is clearly perceptible – depending on driving style.

The GLC 63 4MATIC+ is shod as standard with 10-spoke light-alloy wheels 8.0 J x 19 (front) and 9.0 J x 19 (rear) painted in titanium grey with a high-sheen finish and with tyres of size 235/55 R 19 (front) and 255/50 R 19 (rear). The dimensions for the GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ are 265/45 R 20 (front) and 295/40 R 20 (rear) on 5-twin-spoke light-alloy wheels painted in titanium grey with a high-sheen finish in 9.5 J x 20 (front) and 10.0 J x 20 (rear). There are other, optional wheel/tyre combinations as well as forged wheels, up to sizes of 265/40 R 21 on 9.5 J x 21 on the front axle and 295/35 R 21 on 10.0 J x 21 wheels on the rear axle.

Rear-axle limited-slip differential: optimal traction under all conditions

For improved traction and driving dynamics, the GLC 63 4MATIC+ comes with a mechanical rear-axle limited-slip differential, while the GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ uses an electronic rear-axle limited-slip differential. Both differentials reduce the slip on the inside wheel when cornering, without control interventions by the brakes. The result: allows the driver to accelerate out of corners earlier thanks to the improved traction. The vehicle remains more stable when braking from high speed, while the limited-slip differential also improves traction from rest. Overall, the rear axle has been specially matched to the higher driving dynamics of the new Performance SUVs.

The greatest benefit of the electronic rear-axle limited-slip differential is the even more sensitive and faster control, which pushes the critical threshold higher, making it even easier to drive at the vehicle's limits. The three-stage ESP® with "ESP ON", "ESP SPORT Handling Mode" and "ESP OFF" settings works in perfect unison with the rear-axle limited-slip differential and is optimally tuned to the outstanding dynamics.

Precise, agile handling: speed-sensitive sports steering

The electromechanical, speed-sensitive sports steering makes for precise, agile handling with authentic feedback. The driver benefits from the variable steering ratio and optimised response.

The steering also features variable power assistance with the two modes "Comfort" and "Sport". The power steering is dependent not only on the vehicle's speed, but also on the instantaneous lateral acceleration, selected AMG DYNAMIC SELECT drive program and setting of the adjustable damping.

With 390-millimetre perforated and internally ventilated brake discs at front and rear, the compound braking system on the GLC 63 4MATIC+ ensures short stopping distances along with excellently controllable braking force.

Expressive front end with Panamericana grille

A striking characteristic of the exterior design is the expressive front end: the new GLC 63 4MATIC+ is the first Mercedes-AMG Performance vehicle to feature the Panamericana grille, which was previously reserved for the AMG GT family of sports cars. This design statement affirms the consistently dynamic design of the new Performance SUV and Coupé. A wide front apron inspired by the design of a jet wing, with a large front splitter, impressively embodies the power of the new models. By dispensing with a fine-meshed grille, it gives a view of the cooling technology – a typical attribute from the world of motor sport and a further differentiation from the other GLC models. Wider wheel arch claddings at front and rear lend emphasis to the muscular looks.

The new side sill panels make the SUV and Coupé appear to sit lower on the road while elongating the overall lines. On the S-model variant, matt iridium silver inserts make for a distinctive appearance. The muscular rear end is dominated by the wide rear apron and diffuser in grained black. The trim on the diffuser board of the S-model variant is in matt iridium silver. The SUV is for the first time provided with a spoiler lip on the roof, while the spoiler lip on the Coupé is familiar from the GLC 43 4MATIC. The exhaust system is terminated by two high-gloss chrome-plated twin tailpipe trims.

Interior also with a consistent focus on driving dynamics

The interior underscores the leadership ambition of the new mid-size Performance SUVs in terms of driving dynamics. Driver and front passenger are enclosed as standard in sports seats in ARTICO man-made leather, combined with DINAMICA microfibre, which unite excellent lateral support with functional ergonomics tailored to the job of driving.

The instrument panel is trimmed in black ARTICO man-made leather with contrasting topstitching. The high-grade look is underlined by aluminium trim. The touchpad is flanked by the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT switch and numerous AMG-specific controls, such as the button for the 3-stage AMG RIDE CONTROL suspension, 3-stage ESP® or optionally the button for the AMG Performance exhaust system with flap control.

The S-model variant comes with an even more extensive equipment package, including a Performance steering wheel in black nappa leather / DINAMICA microfibre, AMG badges in the front head restraints in combination with leather appointments and AMG instrument cluster with red highlights.

Exclusive optional extras

The AMG Performance Studio offers technical and design highlights to make the Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ even sportier, more exclusive and more individual. The following provides just a selection:

• AMG Performance exhaust system with flap control at the push of a button
o Greater differentiation of the sound characteristics by two additional exhaust flaps
o Sound characteristics dependent on selected drive program clear differentiation between a full sound in the C and S drive programs and a distinctly sporty sound in the S+ and RACE drive programs
o Additional control of the sound characteristics via button on the centre control panel in the centre console

• AMG Night package:
o Front splitter of the AMG front apron in high-gloss black
o Inserts in the AMG side sill panels in high-gloss black
o Exterior mirror housings in high-gloss black
o Waistline trim strip and window frame in high-gloss black
o Roof rails (SUV only) matt black powdered
o Heat-insulating, dark tinted glass from B-pillar
o AMG sports exhaust system with two chrome-plated twin tailpipe tips
o Trim strip on the diffuser board in high-gloss black (only in combination with S-model)

• AMG Exterior Carbon Fibre package:
o Exterior mirror housings in carbon fibre
o Spoiler lip in carbon fibre

• 20-inch light-alloy wheels (two colour variants)
• 21-inch light-alloy wheels (two colour variants)
• 21-inch forged wheels (two colour variants)

• AMG Performance Studio interior:
o Upper section of instrument panel and waistlines in black nappa-look ARTICO man-made leather with contrasting topstitching in the appointments colour
o Two-tone nappa leather in red pepper/black or platinum white/black, perforated
o black nappa leather, perforated
o designo nappa leather in platinum white/black with diamond design
o designo nappa leather in black with diamond design
o Trim in carbon-fibre/bright aluminium with longitudinal grain
o AMG Performance seats for driver and front passenger with more heavily contoured seat shape for enhanced lateral support, with integral head restraints and "AMG" badge in the seat backrests

Exclusive "Edition 1" special model at market launch

The SUV and Coupé variants of the Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 4MATIC+ and GLC 63 S 4MATIC+ are also available at launch as an "Edition 1" special model: the exclusive combination of equipment details turn the special model into the flagship of the range.

In both body variants, the Night package in high-gloss black enhances the racing-inspired looks. The sports stripes on the sides of the vehicle are in yellow or matt graphite grey, depending on the paint colour and model variant. The matt black 21-inch cross-spoke forged wheels are provided with highlights in the form of yellow or high-sheen rim flanges. The Aerodynamics package, too, draws its inspiration from the world of motor sport.

The racing feel is carried over into the interior. The sports seats are upholstered in black nappa leather and reprise the colour yellow in the contrasting topstitching of the specific diamond pattern. Black nappa leather with yellow contrasting topstitching also enhances the door centre panels, armrests and centre console. Further yellow highlights adorn the instrument cluster, floor mats and Performance steering wheel with flattened bottom section in DINAMICA microfibre with 12 o'clock marking. Added to this is AMG trim in matt carbon fibre / bright aluminium with longitudinal grain. Exclusive to the Edition 1 special model is the AMG Performance seat with diamond design and contrasting topstitching in yellow (standard in the S-Model with a corresponding exterior).

The new mid-size Performance SUVs celebrate their world premiere in April 2017. Start of sales is on 16 June 2017, while the market launch begins in September 2017.

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Originally Posted by jfriedman8
I would be close to 50 days in snow. I think at this point, the only way I'd go C63, is if I can get a killer deal on one too good to refuse.

As far as your tune... Who did and and what do tunes do to warranty? I'd be very interested in that... (Ive never had a car modded, so excuse my ignorance)

Man, if MB made a hatch/sportback 4Matic with a 63 engine, this would be MUCH easier!
That would be the AMG GLE63S Coupe. Problem solved! You're welcome. Though it's not a 63 engine, have you considered the AMG GLE43?


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