All season tires for c43?
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All season tires for c43?
New c43 owner here. Love the car so far but hate the roughness in every mode with the runflats that came on the 19 inch multispokes.
I do live in an area that gets below freezing temps in the winter with occasional snow. Would it be a bad idea to go with all seasons as opposed to dedicated winter and summer sets?
And somewhat related, what is the general concensus on size and brand for wheel spacers on these wheels if I'm not planning to lower it. I've tried searching the forums and I've seen so many different opinions...
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I do live in an area that gets below freezing temps in the winter with occasional snow. Would it be a bad idea to go with all seasons as opposed to dedicated winter and summer sets?
And somewhat related, what is the general concensus on size and brand for wheel spacers on these wheels if I'm not planning to lower it. I've tried searching the forums and I've seen so many different opinions...
thanks!
If you're changing out tires you can get a beefier looking set and run a 5mm spacer in the rear to sit in a really nice spot. The next size that works is 15mm. I have ran an 8 but wouldn't recommend it as it doesn't leave as much mounting surface as I'd like.
ECSTuning has some (same as Audi fitment) just make sure you get the right bolts. I usually go with H&R.
I'd probably just run the all seasons - there are a few out there that will give even good summer tires a run for their money, otherwise I'd get another set of wheels and tires for a dedicated set-up
ECSTuning has some (same as Audi fitment) just make sure you get the right bolts. I usually go with H&R.
I'd probably just run the all seasons - there are a few out there that will give even good summer tires a run for their money, otherwise I'd get another set of wheels and tires for a dedicated set-up
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If you're changing out tires you can get a beefier looking set and run a 5mm spacer in the rear to sit in a really nice spot. The next size that works is 15mm. I have ran an 8 but wouldn't recommend it as it doesn't leave as much mounting surface as I'd like.
ECSTuning has some (same as Audi fitment) just make sure you get the right bolts. I usually go with H&R.
I'd probably just run the all seasons - there are a few out there that will give even good summer tires a run for their money, otherwise I'd get another set of wheels and tires for a dedicated set-up
ECSTuning has some (same as Audi fitment) just make sure you get the right bolts. I usually go with H&R.
I'd probably just run the all seasons - there are a few out there that will give even good summer tires a run for their money, otherwise I'd get another set of wheels and tires for a dedicated set-up
I like your idea of doing the 5mm in the rear with thicker tires. Are there any tires you could recommend?
And I assume you mean a more substantial looking tire as opposed to actual different size right?
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Have to considered looking into non runflat summer tires? Most members run Michelin Pilot Super Sport's and it totally transforms the car. You can save your runflats when you selling/returning the car if you are leasing.
I would not recommend you to run all season tires as it's a performance sedan and you'll be sacrificing the handling. Also, you mentioned that you live in the area where you get freezing temperatures and all season tires would not be the best route to go.
You should be running proper winter tires instead of all seasons. Hope this helps in your decision.
I would not recommend you to run all season tires as it's a performance sedan and you'll be sacrificing the handling. Also, you mentioned that you live in the area where you get freezing temperatures and all season tires would not be the best route to go.
You should be running proper winter tires instead of all seasons. Hope this helps in your decision.
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Have to considered looking into non runflat summer tires? Most members run Michelin Pilot Super Sport's and it totally transforms the car. You can save your runflats when you selling/returning the car if you are leasing.
I would not recommend you to run all season tires as it's a performance sedan and you'll be sacrificing the handling. Also, you mentioned that you live in the area where you get freezing temperatures and all season tires would not be the best route to go.
You should be running proper winter tires instead of all seasons. Hope this helps in your decision.
I would not recommend you to run all season tires as it's a performance sedan and you'll be sacrificing the handling. Also, you mentioned that you live in the area where you get freezing temperatures and all season tires would not be the best route to go.
You should be running proper winter tires instead of all seasons. Hope this helps in your decision.
Also for those who go to non runflats, do you just have some fixaflat in the trunk, or just calling mb roadside assistance?
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Thank you for your reply as well. The snow part is not that important. I have a vehicle for that, but i would still want to drive the c43 in the cold. I was just wondering if some high performance all seasons would be significantly worse than true performance summer tires.
Also for those who go to non runflats, do you just have some fixaflat in the trunk, or just calling mb roadside assistance?
Also for those who go to non runflats, do you just have some fixaflat in the trunk, or just calling mb roadside assistance?
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This is the route I'm planning on going, I'm willing to forgo some ultimate summer performance for a better ride as well as the ability to drive up to Tahoe in the winters. I'm hoping the difference in ride quality is really noticeable.
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I like the continental dws06 better personality.. I drove my friend c43 with the AS3+ and mine is much better ride quality.. they seem to absorb imperfections in the road better
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People have already mentioned the best all seasons I would consider. The continental dws and the AS3's.
I mean using the same OEM spec tires, but different tires fit differently on the rim, some wider than others.
And like others have said, the change to runflats is only a marginal improvement in ride quality. The suspension is the main culprit of harshness.
I mean using the same OEM spec tires, but different tires fit differently on the rim, some wider than others.
And like others have said, the change to runflats is only a marginal improvement in ride quality. The suspension is the main culprit of harshness.
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Thx everyone for the helpful replies!
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Would disagree with that. My vehicle came with ContiSportContact non-runflat summer tires, they were unbearable, I even had to lower the pressure in tires to make ride acceptable. Also it was way too loud. Changed to Michelin PS4 - thats night and day in terms of ride and sound comfort with minor gains in handling department.
Would disagree with that. My vehicle came with ContiSportContact non-runflat summer tires, they were unbearable, I even had to lower the pressure in tires to make ride acceptable. Also it was way too loud. Changed to Michelin PS4 - thats night and day in terms of ride and sound comfort with minor gains in handling department.
You don't have to agree with me.
The suspension handles abrupt dampening poorly and that is not changed swapping tires. Sure - it is muted but still fairly prominently.
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chalk one more believer of PSS. Much better than stock Conti run flats. The only think I like the run flat is they are pretty good between 0c to 10c because while sidewalls are hard, the thread compound are quite soft but wear fast.
Pilot AS3 may be a good compromise, but I still wont go out on those near freezing temp, especially at night.
Pilot AS3 may be a good compromise, but I still wont go out on those near freezing temp, especially at night.
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People have already mentioned the best all seasons I would consider. The continental dws and the AS3's.
I mean using the same OEM spec tires, but different tires fit differently on the rim, some wider than others.
And like others have said, the change to runflats is only a marginal improvement in ride quality. The suspension is the main culprit of harshness.
I mean using the same OEM spec tires, but different tires fit differently on the rim, some wider than others.
And like others have said, the change to runflats is only a marginal improvement in ride quality. The suspension is the main culprit of harshness.
The ride will be stiff no matter what tires you put on it. Anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves.
For me, changing out the runflats made the ride a tiny bit more comfy. The big difference was handling characteristics.
The AS3+ perform just as well as the stock Contis in warm temps. More importantly, they maintain the same level of performance in cold temps. They also perform exceptionally well in cold wet weather. Considering that we've had over 50'' of rain here over the last 6 months, the cold/wet performance has made me a fan of these tires.
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chalk one more believer of PSS. Much better than stock Conti run flats. The only think I like the run flat is they are pretty good between 0c to 10c because while sidewalls are hard, the thread compound are quite soft but wear fast.
Pilot AS3 may be a good compromise, but I still wont go out on those near freezing temp, especially at night.
Pilot AS3 may be a good compromise, but I still wont go out on those near freezing temp, especially at night.
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The tests on Tire rack also support this. If I was not able to get the AS3+ I would have gotten the DWS.
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seems like we are talking about different things. Sure suspension is stiff and on poor roads its bad. Problem with OEM tires for me was that even on average roads it wasn't acceptable, with tire swap it became "ok", while on bumpy roads ride quality is still poor.
You took my comment out of of context. Not sure what you expected.
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Run Flat tires have extremely stiff sidewalls, to support the vehicles weight in case of deflation. The ride is very rough, and this is the #1 chief complaint. For an all season tire, I recommend Continental Extreme Contact DWS06, their designed for the Dry, Wet, Snow hence DWS.
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Run Flat tires have extremely stiff sidewalls, to support the vehicles weight in case of deflation. The ride is very rough, and this is the #1 chief complaint. For an all season tire, I recommend Continental Extreme Contact DWS06, their designed for the Dry, Wet, Snow hence DWS.
The runflats are stored and will be re-installed just before lease return. I will not miss them for one minute.
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Looks like the DWS and pilot sport as3 are most recommended.
Has anyone had any experience with the bfgoodrich comp 2 a/s?
It looks like they have good reviews on tirerack and sell for a bit less than the other two...
Has anyone had any experience with the bfgoodrich comp 2 a/s?
It looks like they have good reviews on tirerack and sell for a bit less than the other two...
