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as another update to this thread. been driving with the wheels for a week or 2 now. all coniditons and roads and so far no rubbing at all and rear has flushed up as suspension settled in. Really liking the stance and love the square tire sidewall instead of stretched look like i had on my w202. i dont get tire sidewall marks with the squared look either. looks just plain mean too with the 507 wheels!
Some off the shelf 19 inch wheels options that would fit great! Options open to just about anything with some spacer usage.
Stance SC-9 by Stance Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et48
(Stance has a few other styles that will work too, however I cannot recommend 19x8.5 et35 without checking brake clearance with a template (for instance Stance SC-1 by Stance Wheels)
Two wheel choice by TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Bathurst Rotary Forged by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Geneva by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et39
(would recommend the car be lowered and running OEM tire sizes)
Two more from TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Interlagos Rotary Forged Wheel by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Nurburgring by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et41
(better off running OEM tire sizes so the rear tucks in)
Two wheels by Vorsteiner in this fitment: 1. Vorsteiner V-FF 107 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels 2. Vorsteiner V-FF 103 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels
19x8.5 et35
19x9.5 et46
(verified that 19x8.5 et35 clear brake calipers in the V-FF 107)
5 options from Vossen in this fitment: 1. Vossen CV3-R by Vossen Wheels 2. Vossen CVT by Vossen Wheels 3. Vossen CV7 by Vossen Wheels 4. Vossen VFS-1 by Vossen Wheels 5. Vossen VFS-2 Silver Polished by Vossen Wheels
19x8.5 et30
19x10 et55
Some off the shelf 19 inch wheels options that would fit great! Options open to just about anything with some spacer usage.
Stance SC-9 by Stance Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et48
(Stance has a few other styles that will work too, however I cannot recommend 19x8.5 et35 without checking brake clearance with a template (for instance Stance SC-1 by Stance Wheels)
Two wheel choice by TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Bathurst Rotary Forged by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Geneva by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et39
(would recommend the car be lowered and running OEM tire sizes)
Two more from TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Interlagos Rotary Forged Wheel by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Nurburgring by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et41
(better off running OEM tire sizes so the rear tucks in)
Two wheels by Vorsteiner in this fitment: 1. Vorsteiner V-FF 107 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels 2. Vorsteiner V-FF 103 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels
19x8.5 et35
19x9.5 et46
(verified that 19x8.5 et35 clear brake calipers in the V-FF 107)
5 options from Vossen in this fitment: 1. Vossen CV3-R by Vossen Wheels 2. Vossen CVT by Vossen Wheels 3. Vossen CV7 by Vossen Wheels 4. Vossen VFS-1 by Vossen Wheels 5. Vossen VFS-2 Silver Polished by Vossen Wheels
19x8.5 et30
19x10 et55
also add BBS CIR, and HRE Flow forms with front 15mm spacer.
and i would say do not go larger than 235 up front and 285 in rear. but 265 rear with a 235 front to match diameters.
if you do go with an 8.5j wide up front id recommend lowering as well. 8 inch can look fine unlowered. lowering the car ads about 5mm of play to become less aggressive (ie. a non lowered car with a front et of 33 8.5j will look similar to a lowered car with a front et of 28 8.5j
Last edited by Star4life; Nov 13, 2017 at 03:20 PM.
Star4life, Alexas and everyone else contributing. I have read this entire thread and it has been great, awesome information and insight, thank you.
I am looking to do this setup below and want to know your opinions and thoughts. First will it work? and second your opinions or course.
Ferrada FR4 Matte Black with Gloss Black Lip Wheels Fronts:
19x8.5 42mm offset with 12mm spacer to get it to a 30mm offset
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S or
19x8.5 25mm offset no spacer
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S https://www.elementwheels.com/prodde...radafr41985blk
This will all be on stock suspension, so keep that in mind. I'm with the mindset Star4life has with keeping it more drive-able than crazy aggressive because we know we can't have both. I have to be safe and don't want to compromise the driving capabilities of this car. But I want it to look nice as well.
Another option with these wheels if it would work, is bumping the front tires up to 245/35R19 or even 255/35R19 on the same rims as listed above (19x8.5)
and bumping the rear tires up to 295/30R19 on 19x10.5 38mm offset. This may not work or be to aggressive were it kills the driving experience. Let me know.
Star4life, Alexas and everyone else contributing. I have read this entire thread and it has been great, awesome information and insight, thank you.
I am looking to do this setup below and want to know your opinions and thoughts. First will it work? and second your opinions or course.
Ferrada FR4 Matte Black with Gloss Black Lip Wheels Fronts:
19x8.5 42mm offset with 12mm spacer to get it to a 30mm offset
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S or
19x8.5 25mm offset no spacer
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S https://www.elementwheels.com/prodde...radafr41985blk
This will all be on stock suspension, so keep that in mind. I'm with the mindset Star4life has with keeping it more drive-able than crazy aggressive because we know we can't have both. I have to be safe and don't want to compromise the driving capabilities of this car. But I want it to look nice as well.
Another option with these wheels if it would work, is bumping the front tires up to 245/35R19 or even 255/35R19 on the same rims as listed above (19x8.5)
and bumping the rear tires up to 295/30R19 on 19x10.5 38mm offset. This may not work or be to aggressive were it kills the driving experience. Let me know.
Star4life, Alexas and everyone else contributing. I have read this entire thread and it has been great, awesome information and insight, thank you.
I am looking to do this setup below and want to know your opinions and thoughts. First will it work? and second your opinions or course.
Ferrada FR4 Matte Black with Gloss Black Lip Wheels Fronts:
19x8.5 42mm offset with 12mm spacer to get it to a 30mm offset
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S or
19x8.5 25mm offset no spacer
235/40R19 Michelin PS4S https://www.elementwheels.com/prodde...radafr41985blk
This will all be on stock suspension, so keep that in mind. I'm with the mindset Star4life has with keeping it more drive-able than crazy aggressive because we know we can't have both. I have to be safe and don't want to compromise the driving capabilities of this car. But I want it to look nice as well.
Another option with these wheels if it would work, is bumping the front tires up to 245/35R19 or even 255/35R19 on the same rims as listed above (19x8.5)
and bumping the rear tires up to 295/30R19 on 19x10.5 38mm offset. This may not work or be to aggressive were it kills the driving experience. Let me know.
I'd be concerned with making sure the brake caliper fits behind that style of wheel in that specific offset. I'd probably go with the et30 set-up on the front if you don't plan to lower. And those larger tire sizes will only give you trouble.
I think I have two options on what I would like to do. Will either one of these will be a problem? Any opinions on which one will look better on my car. The Color of my car is Brilliant Blue Metallic.
Option 1.) Ferrada FR4 Matte Black with Gloss Black Lip Wheels Fronts:
-19x8.5 42mm offset with 12mm spacer to get it to a 30mm offset
-235/40R19 Michelin PS4S Rears:
-19x9.5 45mm offset no spacer
-265/35R19 Michelin PS4S
Option 2.) Vossen VFS-1 Matte Graphite Fronts:
-19x8.5 30mm no spacer
-235/40R19 Michelin PS4S Rears:
-19x9.5 40mm offset no spacer
-265/35R19 Michelin PS4S
My Car and color
I think I have two options on what I would like to do. Will either one of these will be a problem? Any opinions on which one will look better on my car. The Color of my car is Brilliant Blue Metallic.
Option 1.) Ferrada FR4 Matte Black with Gloss Black Lip Wheels Fronts:
-19x8.5 42mm offset with 12mm spacer to get it to a 30mm offset
-235/40R19 Michelin PS4S Rears:
-19x9.5 45mm offset no spacer
-265/35R19 Michelin PS4S
Option 2.) Vossen VFS-1 Matte Graphite Fronts:
-19x8.5 30mm no spacer
-235/40R19 Michelin PS4S Rears:
-19x9.5 40mm offset no spacer
-265/35R19 Michelin PS4S
My Car and color
are you lowered?
if not, i would highly advise against a 8.5j wheel up front. and if lowered 30 et would be most i would go. maybe 28 et.
also 40mm off set will poke way too much. 45et on a 9.5j will be the absolute limit. Did you read this thread? It is clearly stated what the limits are.
for all non lowered people I recommend 235/40/19 19x 8j et 35-30 anywhere in there should work. If they are not oem mercedes wheel make sure to use a spacer to get to final et to have enough caliper clearance. so a bbs cir wheel is et 45 from factory and you take it down to 35 et with a 10mm spacer.
for rear i recommend 19x9j with a 265/35/19 with an et of 45-39. do not go more (lower than 39) or you will poke.
or in rear you can do 19 x 9.5j with 265/35/19 with an et of 52-45 do not go more (lower than 45) with a 9.5j wheel or you will poke.
for lowered cars
8.5j up front with et 28-32. same tire as above.
same rear as above you may be able to fit a 10j in rear with proper offset around 50mm i believe.
if you arent in these ranges dont waste your time. if you want a safe fit, stick to 8j front and 9 or 9.5j rear. i went 9 rear to match sidewalls on front 8j wheel and rear so both are square. also smaller width wheels will be lighter!
if not, i would highly advise against a 8.5j wheel up front. and if lowered 30 et would be most i would go. maybe 28 et.
also 40mm off set will poke way too much. 45et on a 9.5j will be the absolute limit. Did you read this thread? It is clearly stated what the limits are.
for all non lowered people I recommend 235/40/19 19x 8j et 35-30 anywhere in there should work. If they are not oem mercedes wheel make sure to use a spacer to get to final et to have enough caliper clearance. so a bbs cir wheel is et 45 from factory and you take it down to 35 et with a 10mm spacer.
for rear i recommend 19x9j with a 265/35/19 with an et of 45-39. do not go more (lower than 39) or you will poke.
or in rear you can do 19 x 9.5j with 265/35/19 with an et of 52-45 do not go more (lower than 45) with a 9.5j wheel or you will poke.
for lowered cars
8.5j up front with et 28-32. same tire as above.
same rear as above you may be able to fit a 10j in rear with proper offset around 50mm i believe.
if you arent in these ranges dont waste your time. if you want a safe fit, stick to 8j front and 9 or 9.5j rear. i went 9 rear to match sidewalls on front 8j wheel and rear so both are square. also smaller width wheels will be lighter!
That rear offset should work, actually. 9.5 et 40 is 5mm more aggressive than your set-up, but he will have more stretch on the tire (and if he chose a less wide 265 compared to the Michelin he would surely be fine). I don't think it will look great unless it's lowered, however and a less aggressive fit would be more appropriate.
Otherwise, I agree. 8 inch in the front with a 235 is perfection for anyone wanting a conservative set-up that will look good, perform well in both stock and lowered heights. The rear has a ton of options as you can fit quite a bit of wheel width and tire out back. C63 sedan guys (same fitment) are running 295's in the rear easily.
This car already exhibits understeer, so increasing your rear width beyond 265 when the front in only 235 is only going to make it worse. You want the rear to be capable of rotating to counteract the understeer. If you could fit more tire upfront, then this theory changes. (The widest front tire someone is running is a 255, but it's mexi-flush).
Some off the shelf 19 inch wheels options that would fit great! Options open to just about anything with some spacer usage.
Stance SC-9 by Stance Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et48
(Stance has a few other styles that will work too, however I cannot recommend 19x8.5 et35 without checking brake clearance with a template (for instance Stance SC-1 by Stance Wheels)
Two wheel choice by TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Bathurst Rotary Forged by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Geneva by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et39
(would recommend the car be lowered and running OEM tire sizes)
Two more from TSW in this fitment: 1. TSW Interlagos Rotary Forged Wheel by TSW Wheels 2. TSW Nurburgring by TSW Wheels
19x8.5 et32
19x9.5 et41
(better off running OEM tire sizes so the rear tucks in)
Two wheels by Vorsteiner in this fitment: 1. Vorsteiner V-FF 107 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels 2. Vorsteiner V-FF 103 Carbon Graphite by Vorsteiner Wheels
19x8.5 et35
19x9.5 et46
(verified that 19x8.5 et35 clear brake calipers in the V-FF 107)
5 options from Vossen in this fitment: 1. Vossen CV3-R by Vossen Wheels 2. Vossen CVT by Vossen Wheels 3. Vossen CV7 by Vossen Wheels 4. Vossen VFS-1 by Vossen Wheels 5. Vossen VFS-2 Silver Polished by Vossen Wheels
19x8.5 et30
19x10 et55
Thanks for this... think I'm gonna order some Vorsteiner V-FF 107's for the spring.. I love concave wheels!!!
if not, i would highly advise against a 8.5j wheel up front. and if lowered 30 et would be most i would go. maybe 28 et.
also 40mm off set will poke way too much. 45et on a 9.5j will be the absolute limit. Did you read this thread? It is clearly stated what the limits are.
for all non lowered people I recommend 235/40/19 19x 8j et 35-30 anywhere in there should work. If they are not oem mercedes wheel make sure to use a spacer to get to final et to have enough caliper clearance. so a bbs cir wheel is et 45 from factory and you take it down to 35 et with a 10mm spacer.
for rear i recommend 19x9j with a 265/35/19 with an et of 45-39. do not go more (lower than 39) or you will poke.
or in rear you can do 19 x 9.5j with 265/35/19 with an et of 52-45 do not go more (lower than 45) with a 9.5j wheel or you will poke.
for lowered cars
8.5j up front with et 28-32. same tire as above.
same rear as above you may be able to fit a 10j in rear with proper offset around 50mm i believe.
if you arent in these ranges dont waste your time. if you want a safe fit, stick to 8j front and 9 or 9.5j rear. i went 9 rear to match sidewalls on front 8j wheel and rear so both are square. also smaller width wheels will be lighter!
Star4Iife - I am looking into the option of lowering on springs, just need to do a little bit more research on the H&R springs (pro's and cons's with the C43 suspension) I do think this car would look better lowered about 1-inch. But how much will that affect the stock suspension components and driving. That's the million dollar question when lowering. Especially since I plan on keeping the car for 100K.
-I did read this entire thread. That is how I came up with option 1 sizes and offsets. Option 2 was more of a question on if the rear wheel size and offset would work. That way I would not need spacers. Looks like the consensus is 19x9.5 with a 40 mm offset is too far out. Vossen does makes the VFS1 in 19x10 with 55mm offset that should work but then I would be stretching the 265 tire more than the fronts on a 19x8.5 with a 235 tire, which may not look good to have fronts and rears no matching the stretch of the tire.
-Option 1 seems like the better choice: Ferrada FR4 Fronts: 19x8.5 42mm offset with a 12mm spacer would get me right in the range lowered or not. But I remember reading that you said not all spacer sizes will work. Will a 12mm work up front? If so which ones? Rears: 19x9.5 45mm offset with no spacer will get me in the range lowered or not.
Just need to confirm that with these con-caved wheels that they will clear the brake calipers in the front.
I'm with you that a 19x8 is a safer choice for the fronts. It is just very hard to find a good looking wheel that has the dimensions of 19x8 5x112. are they out there, yes but is just not that common in the aftermarket world.
Last edited by kms2018c43; Jan 16, 2018 at 09:15 AM.
Star4Iife - I am looking into the option of lowering on springs, just need to do a little bit more research on the H&R springs (pro's and cons's with the C43 suspension) I do think this car would look better lowered about 1-inch. But how much will that affect the stock suspension components and driving. That's the million dollar question when lowering. Especially since I plan on keeping the car for 100K.
-I did read this entire thread. That is how I came up with option 1 sizes and offsets. Option 2 was more of a question on if the rear wheel size and offset would work. That way I would not need spacers. Looks like the consensus is 19x9.5 with a 40 mm offset is too far out. Vossen does makes a 19x10 with 55mm offset that should work but then I would be stretching the 265 tire more than the fronts on a 19x8.5 with a 235 tire, which may not look good to have fronts and rears no matching the stretch of the tire.
-Option 1 seems like the better choice: Ferrada FR4 Fronts: 19x8.5 42mm offset with a 12mm spacer would get me right in the range lowered or not. But I remember reading that you said not all spacer sizes will work. Will a 12mm work up front? If so which ones? Rears: 19x9.5 45mm offset with no spacer will get me in the range lowered or not.
Just need to confirm that with theses con-caved wheels that they will clear the brake calipers in the front.
I'm with you that a 19x8 is a safer choice for the fronts. It is just very hard to find a good looking wheel that has the dimensions of 19x8 5x112. are they out there, yes but is just not that common in the aftermarket world.
option 1 will work and there is a 12mm spacer that will work for our cars. i have it linked in here somewhere. it is a specialty H&R spacer. 12mm.
So, from reading this, will the C63 AMG Sedan W205 work on the C43 AMG? 19x8.5 +38 19x9.5+56
front is questionable. you would need a 5mm spacer in front. If that allows wheel to clear then yes it would work. if it doesnt clear they wont work without a custom spacer made because a flat 6mm spacer wont fit.
Read most of this thread and I think my proposed wheel specs will work. Just sharing below to get some input...
19x8.5 +30 front
19x10 +49 rear
It will be on a 2018 C43 sedan, H&R VTF mild drop (top of tire), and your recommendations on the beefiest meaty flush fitment tire choice.
Thoughts?
Ideally you would run a a 295/30, but that might be a bit bulbous on the 10 inch wheel (will depend on tire make/model - some are wider than others despite being the "same spec"). and that will get you really close to potential rubbing too. Would have to check the c63 guys out to see if that's been done successfully. And then you'd want to run a 255/35 to match the rear diameter and meat and that's basically impossible up front with that spec.
So, I think your best bet would be 245/35/19 up front and 285/30/19 in the rear. You'll be reducing the amount of sidewall (still well within spec) so in order to get the ride height where you want it that car will actually be lower than someone on stock diameter tire sizes, which I only mention because the drivability will decrease but it will look good.
I'd probably also pick up a ~5mm spacer for the front to fit that type of wheel/tire up front.
I can't guarantee this fitment as it is stepping outside the norm, but I'd also be confident enough to try it myself. If you want a no hassle experience I would recommend something else.
Thanks for the quick response and feedback! Can you comment on why you'd run a 5mm spacer up front? I was under the impression that the 19x8.5 width sweet spot for flush fitment would be in the +30 offset range. Ideally, I'd like to avoid spacers and try to dial in the fitment with available wheels choices, if possible.
Originally Posted by alexasa
Ideally you would run a a 295/30, but that might be a bit bulbous on the 10 inch wheel (will depend on tire make/model - some are wider than others despite being the "same spec"). and that will get you really close to potential rubbing too. Would have to check the c63 guys out to see if that's been done successfully. And then you'd want to run a 255/35 to match the rear diameter and meat and that's basically impossible up front with that spec.
So, I think your best bet would be 245/35/19 up front and 285/30/19 in the rear. You'll be reducing the amount of sidewall (still well within spec) so in order to get the ride height where you want it that car will actually be lower than someone on stock diameter tire sizes, which I only mention because the drivability will decrease but it will look good.
I'd probably also pick up a ~5mm spacer for the front to fit that type of wheel/tire up front.
I can't guarantee this fitment as it is stepping outside the norm, but I'd also be confident enough to try it myself. If you want a no hassle experience I would recommend something else.
Thanks for the quick response and feedback! Can you comment on why you'd run a 5mm spacer up front? I was under the impression that the 19x8.5 width sweet spot for flush fitment would be in the +30 offset range. Ideally, I'd like to avoid spacers and try to dial in the fitment with available wheels choices, if possible.
Inner suspension clearance is going to be super tight and might not even work, depending on the tire make/model choice.
lowering introduces natural camber and thus will give you more room to the edge of the fender. A subtle drop will net you close to ~7mm of additional outer clearance. Basically, like I previously said, my recommendation is not "plug and play" and that's primarily because of the width of wheel you chose for the rear wheel and the odd diameter differences from the front to rear (inherit from stock) and the lack of fender and inner suspension clearance these cars have.
Running a "beefy" tire set-up with these particular specs is not easy.
Also, there is absolutely no issue running spacers as long as you run the proper spacers and lugs. Any internet banter/negativity associated with spacers is the result of improper usage. But, obviously it's one less thing to have to deal with so I agree that ideally you wouldn't need to.
if it were me id stick to 235/40/19 and 265/35/19 for tires. unless you just want to pay a lot more for tires jsut for the looks, larger tires just cause fitment headaches. as alexa said, bigger tires in the rear isnt as big of an issue, but getting the proper ratios front to back to match is an issue since the front is very limited.
id try to walk down to a 9.5j in the back and if you must the 8.5j up front will work at et 30 with a 235 width tire.
just my /02, then again i run 8j front and 9j rear and have plenty of room to play. i still run 235/40 front and 265/35 rear and the car will nto break loose. so the only thing youd get big tires for is to "look" cool
i remember the days of cramming in 255s on my w202, it looked fat.
now a 265 on the w205 just looks like the minimum haha.
if it were me id stick to 235/40/19 and 265/35/19 for tires. unless you just want to pay a lot more for tires jsut for the looks, larger tires just cause fitment headaches. as alexa said, bigger tires in the rear isnt as big of an issue, but getting the proper ratios front to back to match is an issue since the front is very limited.
id try to walk down to a 9.5j in the back and if you must the 8.5j up front will work at et 30 with a 235 width tire.
just my /02, then again i run 8j front and 9j rear and have plenty of room to play. i still run 235/40 front and 265/35 rear and the car will nto break loose. so the only thing youd get big tires for is to "look" cool
i remember the days of cramming in 255s on my w202, it looked fat.
now a 265 on the w205 just looks like the minimum haha.
totally agree and basically said the fitment you have is what I would aim for via PM. I think 19x8 235/40/19 and 19x9 265/35/19 are the perfect specs for this car and more than enough tire.
i have an update on the 10-12mm spacer situation. Have a new set of forged 12mm spacers coming in. Supposedly they clear 13mm of hub. if so these will be the winners.
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