I’m not saying AMR is better than Eurocraped..but AMR is far superior to Eurocrap!! Sorry your cheap tune doesn’t compare to the awesomeness of AMR

 

Thanks buddy. My advice, and not that you need it, but I'd pick the tuner closest to your home. EC is a 20min drive for me and it helps me sleep at night knowing I'm not far from help if need be.

 

LOL you're such a troll.

 

 

I think the biggest one i have seen so far lmaoo.

 

+1

 

LMAO!

Like you dont!

 

Me and the EC guys on this forum may go back and forth with one another poking and commenting but what you just said is definitely a stupid thing to say. I am sure they would agree.

That comment is ignorant and does not make any sense. Do some research.

 

It's all love. We drive sick cars and they're running in the 12's - some in 11's. I'm just happy to put up some proof that EC is in the running because it keeps getting **** on.

Just a thought- I heard there is fuel updates (ECU) that need to be done by the dealer on some VIN's. I called today and my car has no updates available. I wonder if this has anything to do with some people who have tunes and CEL's. Anyway, my car is clean and running nice.

 

Can someone please with OE stage 2 tune and downpipes go to the track and end this discussion. I would really like to see a comparison of the full ECU tunes with downpipes. The only one missing is OE stage 2 times. I just ordered downpipes an I want to make sure I ordering the right tune.

To be honest, I have the BMS Jb1 and if Terry at BMS was able to tweak it for downpipes, I wouldnt even look at ECU tunes. This JB1 has got to be the best bang for bucks.

 

I think we're still missing the eurocharged stage 2 sedan times. Unless I missed that thread

OE is a fast fast tune.. doesn't get enough credit also.

 

I was not aware food stamps worked at the Mercedes dealership. You sound like a broke degenerate.

Why don't you take an English class and edit your spelling and grammar before you try and question someone's intelligence.

There is friendly banter between all the tune client's and obviously favoritism for certain brands, however, you trying to attack people's age, mental stability and furthermore does not fly here.

If you would like to continue speaking the way you do, I would highly recommend heading to the project you came from and hanging out on the Honda forums. I am sure there is a civic flash you can give your opinions on.

 

Can we get a moderator in here.

This is a bit ridiculous.

 

You know what's funny, that C63 owners do not argue like this which tune is better. I think that most C43 buyers are really former Civic owners who just started making money. It's ridiculous Shame on you

 

Most AMR tuned stage 1 cars that you are comparing are actually C450 runing in warm weather.. the c43 has better gearing because of the 9speed.. even the C450 with the AMR tunes are faster than c43 with Eurogarbage..

 

I have no affiliation with AMR.. I simply know they have the best tune at the moment..what’s your affiliation with Eurogarbaged?

 

Thanks for sharing

 

I believe you are the one who doesn’t know squat.. try google and learn to read..even stock C450 is slower than stock c43..poor guy, I feel bad but you got a lesser tune, just face it and stop this nonsense!

 

Your a child, learn to read

 

C450 Eurogarbage<C450 AMR <c43 Eurogarbage <c43 AMR

 

Like I said read my posts.. I never said that...apparently you can’t read

 

It's enough guys. My post was meant to display that all the tunes are great and EC is putting down a competitive product.

Give respect where it's due, regardless of where you spent your money.

 

I haven't been active on this thread but have seen some AMR and OE trap speeds. To my knowledge, AMR has produced the fastest C450/43 to date with that 118mph trap speed.

That was a stage 2 tune, with aftermarket downpipes on a stock cat-back exhaust. That is quick.

A gentleman from Canada had posted his Stage 1 OE tune on his c400 that showed an improvement from 105 (stock mph trap speed at the same track) to 116-117 I believe after the tune. I can dig up the thread at another time.

Those are two proven times from OE and AMR. I don't know weather conditions but to the say the least, those trap speeds are impressive.

A few months ago there was a 11.8 Quarter mile run from what I have gathered is a Eurocharged car (based on a thread created months ago about an EC car running 11.8). The mod list included dowpipes, intake, a 50 shot of nitrous and the Eurocharged tune. The video is below.



In the comment section of that same video, the uploader commented that the run included the 50 wet shot of Nitrous and indicates what he trapped. This would make sense, as Eurocharged seems to trap around 110-112, with the 50 shot taking the trap speed up to 116 mph or so.

Again, I don't know weather conditions, but from seeing all data and taking it as words on a page...it does seem OE and AMR have produced the fastest mph trap speeds.

Enjoying this thread though, keep up the banter folks, as we all know, numbers do not lie.

Fwiw, to me it seems the C450/43 traps around 108 stock. I believe that number is safe to say. Roughly 100 whp gains would be needed to see 118 trap speeds. AMR and OE claim around the same whp gains, I believe Eurocharged doesn't claim such numbers. AMR and OE have backed up those claims, and so has Eurocharged (based on their claimed gains). Frankly, numbers claimed don't matter though, only trap speeds do.

One company could be using a dynojet the other a mustang dyno (google to see the difference). The gentleman who posted the slip of his AMR tune also showed a dyno reading of 420 whp and 510 wtq. Baseline dynos of c450/43 at AMR are around 300 whp if I remember correctly. That's a 120 whp difference, and is reflected in trap speed.

Correct me if I am wrong but on the EC site, they say roughly 50 whp increase post tune on their dyno (cost of $1200), that is 340 whp to ~390. That would probably put the EC tune around 112-113 mph with a good launch and the right weather. 108 trap speed plus 50 or so whp would see around 112-113 traps, add another 50 crank or 40 or so wheel horsepower from a 50 shot of nitrous and boom, 116.

As mentioned previously, downpipes to my knowledge do open up the exhaust flow but I have yet to see a reputable chart showing the actual wheel horsepower gains. From what I have read based on those who have the units, the car gets much louder, and I further assume the gains aren't that substantial since we have a relatively free flowing exhaust system from the factory. At the end of the day a c400 sounds a bit different than a c450 from the factory and that is probably due to a more free flowing turbo-back system to give the cars a "racing" sound. Some guys on here have said 30whp gains with downpipes and a tune, but I haven't seen any charts, just faulty butt dynos.

 

Sliq you may be talking a little too sensibly in this thread as it looks like it deteriorated quickly.

 

Thanks for the detailed post you described everything I wanted to say to a tee. I am just lazy to type all that.

I am the Owner of the 118mph AMR C450. While I agree with you on almost everything, the point where you mentioned the Downpipes are not completely true.

Catless Downpipes will yield a minimum of +10 whp with a tune over just a tune with stock downpipes.

There are people who have dyno their cars without catless downpipes and put down 405 whp on AMR's dyno. Mine did 425 whp so that's a +20 whp. Now obviously it wasn't the same car but I never dynoed my car with stock (catted downpipes) so I can't tell you for sure.