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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DRLC43
I strongly recommend having a scan on your C43 if you have not already done so. I was working with Rob and Matt at AMR and Rob found 4 error codes that either never flashed on my screen or they did and I did not notice. One error is with a passenger headlight module, another was cut the Neckscarf (Cab. specific) and most importantly two exhaust related problems likely related. It seems one of the Exhast flapper acuator has a malfunction. This problem is causing the turbo boost to be limited and significantly reducing HP. Bringing the car to the dealer on Monday. Will provide an update.

Has anyone else had any of these issues?

I have seen this with other cars. It goes into a semi limp mode. After it is fixed, it goes back to normal.
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Old Nov 18, 2017 | 04:16 PM
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Just an update. Changing intake pressure sensors does not fix the issue. This only seems to be happening at really low temperatures. On a hot day it is fine.
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 10:51 AM
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Has this problem been resolved?
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 08:36 AM
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Has this problem been resolved?
Mine has been. Just went back to stock. But I do know what exactly is happening though. I will do a write up on of this one of these days.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 09:10 AM
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Mine has been. Just went back to stock. But I do know what exactly is happening though. I will do a write up on of this one of these days.
That would be great- thanks
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Mine has been. Just went back to stock. But I do know what exactly is happening though. I will do a write up on of this one of these days.
My problems with PE actuator valves have been solved but it took to trips to the dealer. They replaced one and then the other one shorted and needed to be fixed. If you have any noticeable loss of power, these are an item you should check. One problem showed up on a scan but the other did not. I had to go back and make a case that something was still wrong. A little time consuming and frustrating but in the end the dealer stepped up and got it right which is not bad considering that my complaint was about a lack of power. Matt and Rob at AMR did the scan and gave me the details on the HP and torque that helped get the dealers attention.
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 11:46 PM
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Is there anyway we can scan for these codes without AMR doing it first? My coupe is brand new, it was built 10/18/17 so I believe I have all the updates. I’m considering getting a tune from AMR soon but want to make sure there’s no issues going into it.
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Aiosa
Is there anyway we can scan for these codes without AMR doing it first? My coupe is brand new, it was built 10/18/17 so I believe I have all the updates. I’m considering getting a tune from AMR soon but want to make sure there’s no issues going into it.
Anyone with Xentry should be able to do it.
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by munis

Anyone with Xentry should be able to do it.
so what just call around local shops?
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Aiosa


so what just call around local shops?
Yeah or take it to Mercedes and lie to them that you saw a check engine light, hahaha. They will scan it for free.
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 06:08 PM
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I personally do not know of any stock car having a torque limiter related code. It is all the tuned cars. I contacted a bunch of guys who were having this issue. And this is just not AMR alone. OE and EC guys previously had the same problem. It is kind of unique to certain cars, because a lot of the other guys are bullet proof with a tune. The code that is thrown is P061A or P061B, both for over torque protection. This is only triggered by a torque spike when you are around 4k rpm in 4th or 5th gear and you put the pedal to the medal. The car requests the engine for a lot of torque and sometimes that number is really high with a tune, that is what throws the car into limp. When you are stock, the car never requests so much torque, so no matter what you do, you will never trigger this code. There is a solution here for sure, but I think it has to come from the tuner, I doubt whether changing any sensors would help.

There is a guy here called heyitsfish, he had the same problem with OE and his one went away with time. So did mine. My suggestion would be to drive the car for a few days. Let the tune settle in. It should go away.
Hi I'm having the same problem with my Eurocharged tuned C43 facelift.
Its happened twice, 2nd time after a new map was loaded.
Did yours completely go away after the ECU 'adapted' to the new map parameters?
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:25 PM
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Well guys, let me set this straight from my side of things. I had the Lorinser Module on my car which changed the car into a speed machine without any code except crack sensor but never put the car into limp mode.

Some how my PCM blow but I know how and it was nothing to do with the module. I took my car to Eurocharge with a New PCM installed and my old one in the trunk. I removed the Lorinser module and tuned the car and before I even got home, the car when into limp mode. Scared me as it never did this before.

Tool it back the Eurocharge and they had it for a couple days. I took it easy with the car and about 1 week, I put the car in sport and gunned it - Limp Mode. I reset it and brought it back to Eurocharge, retuned it.

Drove it around for 1-2 weeks, gunned it in Comfort = Limp Mode. Reset it, drove around, gunned it - Limp Mode in Comfort, Sport and always to Sport +. Why all the time in Sport +? Because it alway happened in sport + however in sports mode I noticed that the car downshift harder than normal. Kinda feels like it's skipping, like a huge jolt before it's stops while still in Sports. I also have the burble tune so not sure if that is part of that.

Anyways, the car is not fun any longer. I cant pass anyone as I'm scares it will loose all power as soon as I give it power. But if I drive normally - like I have been for the last month. It does not go into limp mode. Today after not driving it hard for a month - Limp Mode in Sport +.

I think it's time to go back to the Lorinser Module unless Eurocharge will do what they call, an exact run tune. Instead of a flash and drive away tune, they tune the car looking at the computer while on a dyno which is a more technical tune. Not sure if that will fix the problem but it's just not fun to tune the car and hit limp mode every time.
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 02:08 PM
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i dont get a Cell but sometimes i diagnose my car with Carly and had the P140471 code;

the actuator is blocked

On the other side i was experiencing a little issue when full throttle it feels like the Rev Limiter cuts in like driving in manual mode....

this is i think less when PE is closed...

So can this be the problem with the actuator?

{did you feel diffence in power with the actuator that was faulty?} sorry amswer was in your post





Originally Posted by DRLC43
I strongly recommend having a scan on your C43 if you have not already done so. I was working with Rob and Matt at AMR and Rob found 4 error codes that either never flashed on my screen or they did and I did not notice. One error is with a passenger headlight module, another was cut the Neckscarf (Cab. specific) and most importantly two exhaust related problems likely related. It seems one of the Exhast flapper acuator has a malfunction. This problem is causing the turbo boost to be limited and significantly reducing HP. Bringing the car to the dealer on Monday. Will provide an update.

Has anyone else had any of these issues?

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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AhEmGee
Hi I'm having the same problem with my Eurocharged tuned C43 facelift.
Its happened twice, 2nd time after a new map was loaded.
Did yours completely go away after the ECU 'adapted' to the new map parameters?
How did yours resolve?
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 03:50 AM
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How did yours resolve?

I think Jerry did number 2 for me.
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 10:31 AM
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I took it back to Eurocharge and those guys re-tuned it with a new tune and everything seems fine now; it's also smoother in every mode.
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:54 AM
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I've had this exact thing happen to my Eurocharged tuned C43... took it to the dealer initially and they couldn't figure out what was wrong. They said it was throwing a torque code. Eurocharged tried to load other versions of the tune onto the car but nothing was working. They ended up taking the tune off and reverting the ECU back to stock... never happened again. I've been hesitant to tune my car ever since.
Same thing is happening to me with my eurocharged tune. About 5 times now it has put me in limp mode while going 95. Took it to the dealership twice and the most they could tell me was the car sucked air in through the exhaust. But the people from eurocharged don't think that's possible..? It has been months and I'm still trying to figure out what the problem is. I've tried 6 different tunes from them and they all do it. Have you given up or were you able to find a fix?
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 05:06 AM
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Same thing is happening to me with my eurocharged tune. About 5 times now it has put me in limp mode while going 95. Took it to the dealership twice and the most they could tell me was the car sucked air in through the exhaust. But the people from eurocharged don't think that's possible..? It has been months and I'm still trying to figure out what the problem is. I've tried 6 different tunes from them and they all do it. Have you given up or were you able to find a fix?
Have you tuned back to stock and see if the fault still arises?

That should be an easy way to determine what’s wrong.
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 05:31 AM
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Have you tuned back to stock and see if the fault still arises?

That should be an easy way to determine what’s wrong.
Yes it doesn't do it when stock. Only when the tune is on.
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 08:07 AM
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Yes it doesn't do it when stock. Only when the tune is on.
That is indeed strange. Perhaps your car is unique or different in some way, software or hardware version, that is causing it. There are countless others on Eurocharged tune without this issue, and there are one or two with the same problem. Some of them have been solved, maybe they can help. What year is your car?
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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That is indeed strange. Perhaps your car is unique or different in some way, software or hardware version, that is causing it. There are countless others on Eurocharged tune without this issue, and there are one or two with the same problem. Some of them have been solved, maybe they can help. What year is your car?
Yeah it could just be a unique car. Frustrating though. And yeah I am honestly asking anyone I can find who remotely has this problem. I have a huge thread between Jerry and I on trying to figure it out. And my c43 is a 2019.
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Old May 12, 2025 | 03:41 AM
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Hello guys, I had 2020 c43 for around 2 months now I got the car with 25km and I got it as certified pre owned Within the first week I had the car staged 1 by MB house in Toronto. The car now produced around 460hp with 665nm of torque. Within the first week on the highway everytime I finish work it will go into limp mode happened 5 times. After taking back to mb house they will decrease the torque and play with the tune but issue still happened. Then they took it for a couple days so they could log it and test and they said that air pressure was off in the engine due to a air leak and had to replace the 12 plastic seals for the engine. Which was expensive btw. The issue did not happen for 2 weeks (the longest) then it suddenly happened on the highway again. This issue definitely seems like tune issue.
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Old May 12, 2025 | 04:28 PM
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Hello guys, I had 2020 c43 for around 2 months now I got the car with 25km and I got it as certified pre owned Within the first week I had the car staged 1 by MB house in Toronto. The car now produced around 460hp with 665nm of torque. Within the first week on the highway everytime I finish work it will go into limp mode happened 5 times. After taking back to mb house they will decrease the torque and play with the tune but issue still happened. Then they took it for a couple days so they could log it and test and they said that air pressure was off in the engine due to a air leak and had to replace the 12 plastic seals for the engine. Which was expensive btw. The issue did not happen for 2 weeks (the longest) then it suddenly happened on the highway again. This issue definitely seems like tune issue.
Welcome to the forums and the car, hmmm, sounds like an mbhouse issue though, they need to fix it.
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Hey guys, I know that most of the problems in this topic are about the car after stage.
But I have a problem with my C43, where I've had the car in the garage for 6 months. The car was working fine, and right after changing the battery, the big problem started.
It loses communication between the transmission and the computer. Sometimes the car loses power and now it won't even start. The mechanic who has my car has supposedly tried everything he could, changed modules, checked the car's wiring harness and everything else.
I believe that because of the time the car has been stopped, either he's not a good mechanic in MB or he doesn't have the right computer/tools to solve these types of cars. Has anyone had something similar or have any idea how to solve this type of problem?

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Old May 28, 2025 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Glaucio Poyares
Hey guys, I know that most of the problems in this topic are about the car after stage.
But I have a problem with my C43, where I've had the car in the garage for 6 months. The car was working fine, and right after changing the battery, the big problem started.
It loses communication between the transmission and the computer. Sometimes the car loses power and now it won't even start. The mechanic who has my car has supposedly tried everything he could, changed modules, checked the car's wiring harness and everything else.
I believe that because of the time the car has been stopped, either he's not a good mechanic in MB or he doesn't have the right computer/tools to solve these types of cars. Has anyone had something similar or have any idea how to solve this type of problem?
That is strange, what battery did you replace it with? What brand what size, what model?
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