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Old 12-31-2017, 05:32 PM
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Quick question on the Leather on the C43. Does anyone else feel like the leather is not soft on the C43. It wasn't a cheap option but I feel its very close to the MB tex. Is this normal of there leather?
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while i don't think the leather quality is poor, it's not the best that Merc has to offer. if you take a feel of the leather in the C63 for example, you'll notice that it is much more supple.

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Aside from Audi which offers Nappa leather as Standard, I feel neither the standard leather in BMW or upgraded leather in Mercedes are anything special. For feel designo nappa is an improvement but it's pricey
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A lot of German companies often seem to use a stiffer/less supple leather. I always presumed they use a stiffer/less supple leather because it wears better than the really soft stuff, which can take a real beating when used on the side bolsters of the seats. If you think the stuff they use now is stiff, you should see the leather used on vintage MBs. I was at a restoration shop that does a lot of work on vintage MBs from the 1950's through the 1970s and they said the leather MB used back from the 1950s through the 70s was around 4mm thick and very durable. They said, MB doesn't use leather that thick anymore because it would cost too much.
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I actually like the stiffer leather. Over a year in with my C450 and no wear or creases in my leather.

My previous Lexus and Infiniti with softer leather I would get those ugly wrinkle creases within the first month of daily driving. Acura is the worst since the leather cracks so easily.
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Originally Posted by Standingoten
I actually like the stiffer leather. Over a year in with my C450 and no wear or creases in my leather.

My previous Lexus and Infiniti with softer leather I would get those ugly wrinkle creases within the first month of daily driving. Acura is the worst since the leather cracks so easily.
+1 My father had an Acura and within the first few years he had it the driver seat was replaced twice under warranty because the leather bolsters cracked rather quickly and developed holes. The same thing happened with my father-in-laws Lexus.
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I actually prefer mbtex but they only offer dinimica inserts on this car. I would totally jave gone for black mbtex if they offerred it.
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Originally Posted by Snarfalus
I actually prefer mbtex but they only offer dinimica inserts on this car. I would totally jave gone for black mbtex if they offerred it.
there is a lot of discussion here about leather quality, but determining the quality of the leather in a new car is a bit tricky. I do not think ‘softness’ is a trait that is directly linked to quality. In expensive leather can be processed to be soft while hi quality full grain leather can also feel stiff. Hi quality full grain leather with a protective sealant is not necessarily going to feel or look diffferent than lower grade leather or even synthetic leather. Over time higher grade leather will wear better and look better if maintained properly, but when it is new I think it is hard for most people to really make a determination on quality from just look and feel on a new car seat.
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What do you expect? We are in the entry level model after all. It would be something to complain about if this was an S class as you get what you pay for, ya know? It is pretty cool that you can option (for an arm and two legs, of course) the Designo Nappa leather which comes standard in the higher end models.

I will say though, I am quite happy with the leather quality of my sport seats. I don't like it to be too soft as that wears out and shows age much too quickly but it's not the cheap feeling stiff type either. Right in that 'Goldilocks' zone
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t

What do you expect? We are in the entry level model after all.
Entry level as of now is the CLA...

My C450 with the standard leather seats is just about 2 years old, and aside from the occasional vacuuming (I don't eat or drink in the car), my seats still look like new.

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Originally Posted by MASSC450
Entry level as of now is the CLA...



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Wow. I don't know if MASSC450 can't take a joke and reported my meme or if "super" duper pooper moderator amdeutsch came in and doesn't understand context or internet forums in general but.... My post was edited and I received a "warning for insulting another forum member"

Again, all I gotta say is, wow
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t

Wow. I don't know if MASSC450 can't take a joke and reported my meme or if "super" duper pooper moderator amdeutsch came in and doesn't understand context or internet forums in general but.... My post was edited and I received a "warning for insulting another forum member"

Again, all I gotta say is, wow
I have no idea what happened, never saw your response. I have no beef with you, nor did I report you...and I'd have no problem admitting it if I did.

I wonder though how douchey your original post was towards me, enough to warrant a warning I guess...

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Originally Posted by MASSC450
I have no idea what happened, never saw your response. I have no beef with you, nor did I report you...and I'd have no problem admitting it if I did.

I wonder though how douchey your original post was towards me, enough to warrant a warning I guess...
Lol it wasn't. It was a joke. Instead of that 'popcorn' emoji up there, I had posted the Big Lebowski MEME where he says "You're not wrong, you're just an *******" and then put a 'wink' emoji after it.

That's why I said what I said and even messaged the guy. I've been "douchey" to people in the past. Hell I've been a down right *******. But I'll admit it and I'll accept whatever "punishment" I get. Like I care, this is the internet for christ sake. But all this over a friggin MEME? Just hilarious.
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Can I just tell you, I have 60,000 miles on my 2015 C300, with gorgeous beige mbtex that looks a absolutely immaculate. You could pass the car off as being brand new—and it roasts in direct sun all summer at my office parking lot and is out in the cold all winter. It is damn impressive. Not as if I was babying the thing either. I will be sad to see the C300 go back when the lease is up.

My C43 will have leather, unfortunately, because dinimica while awesome and fun is just a pain it seems. If they just oferred mbtex in the C43, it would be a better car for it and more affordable too!

My previous Acura TSX with leather looked like junk at turn in at 60,000 ‘miles.

I shall suffer the leather for the better performance of the C43, but I am firmly in the pro MB-Tex camp as a professional who drives 20 thousand miles per year. I think that stuff is incredible.
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Agree with what others have said.

Supple leather is nice...but for longevity reasons I prefer the firmer leather.

Of course, if it's a lease that you're turning back...then who gives a ****.
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Suede seat inserts on base C43 2018 coupe, care?

Originally Posted by Snarfalus
I actually prefer mbtex but they only offer dinimica inserts on this car. I would totally jave gone for black mbtex if they offerred it.
Anybody have any care tips on the suede seat inserts found on base seats? I have no problem with the mbtex portion and use Wash Wax All on it as well as entire dash and exterior but not sure what to use to protect these suede inserts.

Just got this 18 C43 coupe and love it. .
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Originally Posted by uzona
Anybody have any care tips on the suede seat inserts found on base seats? I have no problem with the mbtex portion and use Wash Wax All on it as well as entire dash and exterior but not sure what to use to protect these suede inserts.

Just got this 18 C43 coupe and love it. .
here is a good video from the Chemical Guys.


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