2019 C43, Quadrifoglio or Ghibli S? Need help!!
06-26-2018, 12:27 AM
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2019 C43, Quadrifoglio or Ghibli S? Need help!!
Hi guys,
Great forum!
I am ready to make my next car purchase and trying to pull the trigger this week on any of these 3cars... i have a $66k budget. Which one would you recommend?
- 2019 C43 custom order, perf exhaust, leather, digital cockpit, Black rims, etc... (385 hp)
- 2018 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio Black rims (505 hp)
- 2018 Maserati a Ghibli S (424 hp)
any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
06-26-2018, 03:14 AM
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GLC43, X P100D, S P100D, CT200H
Ghibli
- From my research, The Ghibli Q4S does NOT make 400hp. Most of the stock Dynos I found, it made about 280hp.
- It looks really cool though and sounds great. If you can get it at a great price (close to the cost of a C43), I would get that instead.
Gulia
- I wouldnt buy an Alfa. I would be very very wary of buying cars from brands that are not popular. Popular brands usually have better support. I dunno about your area, but if you arent in a major city, the local Alfa service center might not even keep many parts in stock or have many mechanics.
C43
- Id get the C43 if the Ghibli is much much more.
- From my research, The Ghibli Q4S does NOT make 400hp. Most of the stock Dynos I found, it made about 280hp.
- It looks really cool though and sounds great. If you can get it at a great price (close to the cost of a C43), I would get that instead.
Gulia
- I wouldnt buy an Alfa. I would be very very wary of buying cars from brands that are not popular. Popular brands usually have better support. I dunno about your area, but if you arent in a major city, the local Alfa service center might not even keep many parts in stock or have many mechanics.
C43
- Id get the C43 if the Ghibli is much much more.
06-26-2018, 08:23 AM
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I can tell you when we bought our CLS550, we looked at the Maserati and it was go but no show. The one we looked at was the not the S, but it did have the Ferrari-built motor. The interior reminded me of a 1980's built Pontiac. Ill fitting plastic, cheap materials.
The Merc was the best decision we made.
The Merc was the best decision we made.
06-26-2018, 09:29 AM
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Would have a hard time buying any of those cars. Maserati is a joke. Infotainment is garbage, power is low and they depreciate fast. Alpha is still new, has a lack of dealer network support and technically is a c63 competitor.
And, I had more issues with my C than any other car I ever owned.. But, I would take that with a small grain of salt because most people seem happy with their units.
And, I had more issues with my C than any other car I ever owned.. But, I would take that with a small grain of salt because most people seem happy with their units.
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06-26-2018, 09:56 AM
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Alfa would be the rarer choice, but under your budget, are you getting a used one? The MSRP on the Quadrofolio is $74k, unoptioned, and I know they're not budging on price on the Clover models. I don't know how their quality has improved from release to today, but I recall not a single major review platform (mags, blogs, etc) being able to get one to make a full lap in track mode without CEL chaos and shutdown. IIRC, Car & Driver had two on hand and neither would play nice to complete their full testing menu.
06-26-2018, 10:01 AM
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Would have a hard time buying any of those cars. Maserati is a joke. Infotainment is garbage, power is low and they depreciate fast. Alpha is still new, has a lack of dealer network support and technically is a c63 competitor.
And, I had more issues with my C than any other car I ever owned.. But, I would take that with a small grain of salt because most people seem happy with their units.
And, I had more issues with my C than any other car I ever owned.. But, I would take that with a small grain of salt because most people seem happy with their units.
Don't know much about the Alpha. If it were me, it would be the c43 in a heartbeat.
06-26-2018, 11:27 AM
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Have you sat in the Maserati? My friend owns a independent dealer in Arlington, VA and has a bunch of Maserati Ghiblis. The back seat room is horrible and the material is way too cheap for the price they are selling. Yes the exhaust sound is heaven, even better when you open the exhaust valves but it's way over priced. I don't know too much about the Alpha car except magazine reviews. Really fast car but like everyone has stated, dealer network is way too small. Have you checked out the Audi S5 Sportback or BMW 340i M? I would look at those before either the Maserati or Alpha. C43 hands down for 2019 has great tech and power to stay ahead of the competition.
06-26-2018, 11:33 AM
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Have you sat in the Maserati? My friend owns a independent dealer in Arlington, VA and has a bunch of Maserati Ghiblis. The back seat room is horrible and the material is way too cheap for the price they are selling. Yes the exhaust sound is heaven, even better when you open the exhaust valves but it's way over priced. I don't know too much about the Alpha car except magazine reviews. Really fast car but like everyone has stated, dealer network is way too small. Have you checked out the Audi S5 Sportback or BMW 340i M? I would look at those before either the Maserati or Alpha. C43 hands down for 2019 has great tech and power to stay ahead of the competition.
Also, no such thing as an Alpha....ALFA!
06-26-2018, 12:18 PM
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At least I was being honest on my opinion about them. Outside of magazine reviews on how fast they are and stuff, I haven't even seen one on the streets or hear any of my car club friends talk about them. I see way more Ghibilis even though that car is rare too.
06-26-2018, 12:29 PM
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Hi guys,
Great forum!
I am ready to make my next car purchase and trying to pull the trigger this week on any of these 3cars... i have a $66k budget. Which one would you recommend?
- 2019 C43 custom order, perf exhaust, leather, digital cockpit, Black rims, etc... (385 hp)
- 2018 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio Black rims (505 hp)
- 2018 Maserati a Ghibli S (424 hp)
any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
The Maserati and the Alfa are more comparable to a standard C63 (non-S model) than a C43. They are both higher trim level and MSRP in the $76-85k range as specced in the pics.
If you want an apples to apples comparison with the Benz you need to pic the mid-level trims from both Alpha and Maserati or look at a C63.
BTW, the C63 owns both the Italian models hands down.
06-26-2018, 01:59 PM
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LOL so that tells you right there I don't know much about them At least I was being honest on my opinion about them. Outside of magazine reviews on how fast they are and stuff, I haven't even seen one on the streets or hear any of my car club friends talk about them. I see way more Ghibilis even though that car is rare too.
At least I was being honest on my opinion about them. Outside of magazine reviews on how fast they are and stuff, I haven't even seen one on the streets or hear any of my car club friends talk about them. I see way more Ghibilis even though that car is rare too.A colleague in my company just bought a Guilia, but only the Ti model. Gray w/black wheels and yellow calipers...looks very sharp, but inside was underwhelming. Outside of their supercars, the Italians aren't particularly known for their creature comforts. Especially with Alfa's, their reputation of great styling is immediately preceded by their incredibly bipolar reliability. One minute they work, the next their absolutely crippled.
06-26-2018, 02:12 PM
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The Maserati and the Alfa are more comparable to a standard C63 (non-S model) than a C43. They are both higher trim level and MSRP in the $76-85k range as specced in the pics.
If you want an apples to apples comparison with the Benz you need to pic the mid-level trims from both Alpha and Maserati or look at a C63.
BTW, the C63 owns both the Italian models hands down.
If you want an apples to apples comparison with the Benz you need to pic the mid-level trims from both Alpha and Maserati or look at a C63.
BTW, the C63 owns both the Italian models hands down.
Whatever the case, only car the OP can (or is willing) to afford is a mildly optioned C43.
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06-26-2018, 05:43 PM
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First - a used Ghibli S (2 years old, under 30k miles) will cost you less then 35k. They depreciate faster then used gym socks.
Alfa is f-n cool. Its gimmicky though - and there is little to no secondary market. Even so, because it has more HP, is faster and has more of a unique look - I would go with Alfa first - then C43.
I did not go with the Quadrifoglio ONLY because my MB dealer was giving me a killer deal on the C43 with the color/options I wanted and the wife basically fell in love with the Benz - and did not like the Alfa interior.
06-26-2018, 10:52 PM
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I own a C43, but have driven the Alfa Quadrofoglio and several variants of the Ghibli. My unbiased opinion, if you can fit the bill for the Quadrofolio, GET IT. That is the best driving sedan I have ever been in. So much feedback, so much fun to drive. I think you will find lease rates are outrageous and maintenance will be very expensive if you finance, not to mention depreciation of Italian cars. That is why I didn't end up with one. Leases were 1000+ per month at 1k under invoice...
The C43 is the safest bet and easily the most well rounded of the bunch, but it is not as much fun as the Alfa. If you go C43, get the performance exhaust.
I would take the Maserati off your list. It is a poser car. It drives ok, sounds pretty good, but it is a sh**ty car at the end of the day. Terrible build quality, terrible reliability, and some of the worst resale value I have ever seen.
06-27-2018, 12:23 AM
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Hey guys, thanks for all the responses. This is really helpful!
I am going shopping tomorrow and will stop by all 3dealers.
The Maserati is probably out based on all your comments and the resell value. Although new they are dropping prices by $20k!
The Alfa Quadrifoglio is a well rounded car. Great engine, but need to sit and check out the interior features...
The C43, as someone said earlier, it’s the best rounded car. If I pull the trigger, it will be with the performance exhaust for sure.
Will keep you guys posted! Thanks again for all the help.
I am going shopping tomorrow and will stop by all 3dealers.
The Maserati is probably out based on all your comments and the resell value. Although new they are dropping prices by $20k!
The Alfa Quadrifoglio is a well rounded car. Great engine, but need to sit and check out the interior features...
The C43, as someone said earlier, it’s the best rounded car. If I pull the trigger, it will be with the performance exhaust for sure.
Will keep you guys posted! Thanks again for all the help.
06-27-2018, 02:06 AM
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the alfa Romeo looks like a Kia, styling is weak and they haven’t nailed the North American appeal that Mercedes and BMW have.
Sure you get a big boy engine but knowing very little about them, if you can get the equivalent of a c63s for the same price as a c43 that smells fishy.
the alfa Romeo looks like a Kia, styling is weak and they haven’t nailed the North American appeal that Mercedes and BMW have.
Sure you get a big boy engine but knowing very little about them, if you can get the equivalent of a c63s for the same price as a c43 that smells fishy.
06-27-2018, 08:44 AM
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I've owned a Quadrifoglio- amazing car. It is really made for the track. I would get this if you want a track based car, looks, exclusivity. The E43 is more refined and subtle. I would consider the M550. I traded the Alfa for an E63 because I needed a slightly larger car for 3 kids.
06-27-2018, 10:12 AM
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Opinion:
the alfa Romeo looks like a Kia, styling is weak and they haven’t nailed the North American appeal that Mercedes and BMW have.
Sure you get a big boy engine but knowing very little about them, if you can get the equivalent of a c63s for the same price as a c43 that smells fishy.
the alfa Romeo looks like a Kia, styling is weak and they haven’t nailed the North American appeal that Mercedes and BMW have.
Sure you get a big boy engine but knowing very little about them, if you can get the equivalent of a c63s for the same price as a c43 that smells fishy.
06-27-2018, 12:44 PM
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While I agree on the Clover, the Ghibli S Q4 has identical 0-60 times as the C43. Yes it has more power, but also 250lb higher curb weight. Select the RWD version and it's another .2s slower. Comparable to C63 only in terms of price tag.
Whatever the case, only car the OP can (or is willing) to afford is a mildly optioned C43.
Whatever the case, only car the OP can (or is willing) to afford is a mildly optioned C43.
Who cross shops based on 0-60 times?
Most people cross shop based on trim level, perceived quality, general performance, and most importantly PRICE.
The 3 vehicles that the OP listed originally are not at the same price point. As I mentioned earlier, both the Maserati and the Alpha are priced closer to a standard C63 than than a C43.
06-27-2018, 03:59 PM
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I actually do look at car's 0-60's when shopping.. I was going to get a bmw 440i, but the c43 was faster so obviously picked that. 505hp ferrari built alfa is the best overall performance car in its class. The maserati is just straight garbage. I don't consider it a maserati. Its sitting on a 15 year old mercedes chassis still used by chrysler. The whole car is just a prettier chrylser 300. Yes the Alfa is more comparable to the C63, but in that case i'd get a c63.
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