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Old 08-20-2018, 11:52 PM
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Hi everyone....

The "Ugly" question raised its head here in the house so I will spell it out....

"How does the C43 drive in snow???"

1. We always get dedicated snows for all our cars.
2. The 2019, I know no one has tested it, but does it make a difference? "Slippery"
3. This will be a daily driver for us in the mountains.

This will be my wife's daily driver believe it or not .....but we "swap" cars every other day.

I would love to hear the pro's and con's of the C43 (4matic) in snow......

It is really hard to see videos or "real world" experiences with it.

Our Audi A5 was INCREDIBLE in snow so that and our 2005 Jetta TDI with dedicated snows....worked great! If it gets over 6" both did well and over that my '93 Jeep Wrangler would be the driver for the day.

Since we have NO comparisons on vehicles, we would love some owner input!

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You will find many owners on this forum are a) daily drivers and b) live in snowy lands. A surprising amount of Canadians as well (surprising because buying cars there is awful).

anyways, this is a four wheel drive car (albeit 66 33) but still that is better than any FWD or RWD car. Additionally, I use all seasons as do many folks here, after many tires threads the preferred all season is the Pilot Sport A/S 3+. I haven’t had those tires but have seen all the tire threads. All season tires sufficed for my winters here and driving in the mountains.

i came from a front wheel drive boat and grew up in a 2 wheel drive car. So I partially believe the car is only going to be as smart as you are.

if you are in MN type winters, maybe a set of winter tires would be good, and with those especially I would say not one person has complained of the cars capabilities with winters.

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I daily drove my 2018 c43 through all of last winter with sottozero 3 winters on it, and had 0 issues with traction during normal driving even when the snow got pretty thick.
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I look forward to snow driving I didn't have any issues in +/- 6" snow in Nebraska this last year with the stock Conti all-season RFs. Performed every bit as good as my old A4 Quattro. With a proper set of snow tires, I would pick it over the Jeep! You and your wife are gonna be just fine.
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Originally Posted by FirstMBAMG

anyways, this is a four wheel drive car (albeit 66 33) but still that is better than any FWD or RWD car. Additionally, I use all seasons as do many folks here, after many tires threads the preferred all season is the Pilot Sport A/S 3+. I haven’t had those tires but have seen all the tire threads. All season tires sufficed for my winters here and driving in the mountains.
66 + 33 = 99
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66 + 33 = 99
In reality, it's a 31/69 front to rear split, correct?
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With winters on, it is excellent in the snow.
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In reality, it's a 31/69 front to rear split, correct?
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In reality, it's a 31/69 front to rear split, correct?
Yes. C450s are 33/67
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Originally Posted by FirstMBAMG
You will find many owners on this forum are a) daily drivers and b) live in snowy lands. A surprising amount of Canadians as well (surprising because buying cars there is awful).

anyways, this is a four wheel drive car (albeit 66 33) but still that is better than any FWD or RWD car. Additionally, I use all seasons as do many folks here, after many tires threads the preferred all season is the Pilot Sport A/S 3+. I haven’t had those tires but have seen all the tire threads. All season tires sufficed for my winters here and driving in the mountains.

i came from a front wheel drive boat and grew up in a 2 wheel drive car. So I partially believe the car is only going to be as smart as you are.

if you are in MN type winters, maybe a set of winter tires would be good, and with those especially I would say not one person has complained of the cars capabilities with winters.

What?

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Thanks everyone!

I believe the 2019 C43 is a 69/31 split but either way it is some sort of all wheel drive which we like!

After growing up in Maine and Mass, we always had dedicated snows for our vehicles. Not sure when "all seasons" came out but to be honest I am not a fan. Storage can be a pain but winter tires are always a HUGE plus!

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I did 3 winters in W205 C300 4matic which is just a little more front biased than my new C43. It would just dominate even very heavy snow. It was freaking amazing in the snow with Pirelli Cinturado all seasons. Snow driving was fun. I don't expect any different from my C43. Of course, Snow is one thing I would not let deter me from getting a C43. The 4matic system is excellent. With dedicated snow tires it probably is even better, but I suspect you could get away with all seasons.

Note that not all all season tires are marketed as being good in deeper snow. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ for example which is popular is only held out by Michelin as being good with light snow. That probably won't stop me from getting them when I need tires, however. Others may have actually tried that one in deeper snow.
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I did 3 winters in W205 C300 4matic which is just a little more front biased than my new C43. It would just dominate even very heavy snow. It was freaking amazing in the snow with Pirelli Cinturado all seasons. Snow driving was fun. I don't expect any different from my C43. Of course, Snow is one thing I would not let deter me from getting a C43. The 4matic system is excellent. With dedicated snow tires it probably is even better, but I suspect you could get away with all seasons.

Note that not all all season tires are marketed as being good in deeper snow. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ for example which is popular is only held out by Michelin as being good with light snow. That probably won't stop me from getting them when I need tires, however. Others may have actually tried that one in deeper snow.
Great thoughts Snarfalus!

Thanks for sharing the real world opinions!

We get BIG snows and sometimes the roads are not plowed where we are at. Granted, the C43 might be in a touchy situation in those situations, but we are not looking for something to get us thru everything!

Our Audi, God Bless it's soul!...and VW both do tremendously with snows on. What I am getting at in my initial post is this....with that much "available" power is is something she can drive (with snows) and not experience any issues?

The only reason I am asking this is with 385 HP on the 2019 I was wondering if when the car is put into the "Slippery" mode that is advertised would that be better than "Comfort" or another mode?

Our Macan S is always in Sport/Sport + when I drive. If it is out in snow, I "degrade" it to Comfort.....simply because the High RPM's in both modes make my drive that much more complex when snow/ice is around if that makes sense.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

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Originally Posted by pop.tremuloides
Great thoughts Snarfalus!

Thanks for sharing the real world opinions!

We get BIG snows and sometimes the roads are not plowed where we are at. Granted, the C43 might be in a touchy situation in those situations, but we are not looking for something to get us thru everything!

Our Audi, God Bless it's soul!...and VW do tremendously with snows on. What I am getting at in my initial post is this....with that much "available" power is is something she can drive (with snows) and not experience any issues?

The only reason I am asking this is with 385 HP on the 2019 I was wondering if when the car is put into the "Slippery" mode that is advertised would that be better than "Comfort" or another mode?

Our Macan S is always in Sport/Sport + when I drive. If it is out in snow, I "degrade" it to Comfort.....simply because the High RPM's in both modes make my drive that much more complex when snow/ice is around if that makes sense.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
The traction control will prevent that from happening and the comfort or eco mode or whatever is on the 19 will keep RPMs low. You have to manually disable the traction control with a special button on the center stack. First it goes to Sport, and if you hold it down you can turn it off but it isn’t entirely off. With it on, if will cut power if necessary in the snow. Sport and Sport plus does not disable traction control. You can’t really spin the tires in this one. Its definately a winter machine.
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The traction control will prevent that from happening and the comfort or eco mode or whatever is on the 19 will keep RPMs low. You have to manually disable the traction control with a special button on the center stack. First it goes to Sport, and if you hold it down you can turn it off but it isn’t entirely off. With it on, if will cut power if necessary in the snow. Sport and Sport plus does not disable traction control. You can’t really spin the tires in this one. Its definately a winter machine.
NICE! Thanks for responding so quickly!

The RPM issue can rear its "ugly" stuff when not driven correctly. My 911 Turbo is a PITA in the snow but to be honest, I only take it out for fun in a parking lot with snow......It has full time summers on it so it is a BLAST to drive in a wide open parking lot with an inch or two or snow.

Good to know that the Sport and Sport + does not turn off traction control! I would hate to have her take it out and be in any other mode and have the car do something different than what she would expect.

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The traction control is very aggressive and will prevent that from happening and the comfort or eco mode or whatever is on the 19 will keep RPMs low. You have to manually disable the traction control with a special button on the center stack. First it goes to Sport, and if you hold it down you can turn it off but it isn’t entirely off. With it on, if will cut power if necessary in the snow. Sport and Sport plus does not disable traction control, so those systems will kick in on any mode. You can’t really spin the tires in this one. It’s definitely a winter ready machine. Obviously you have to know how to drive in the snow and exercise due care, but it is probably as safe as a sedan gets. Audi quattro might be slightly better—probably pretty close but not sure. From what I read it is better than BMW’s XDrive.

I frankly look forward to “snow driving”.
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NICE! Thanks for responding so quickly!

The RPM issue can rear its "ugly" stuff when not driven correctly. My 911 Turbo is a PITA in the snow but to be honest, I only take it out for fun in a parking lot with snow......It has full time summers on it so it is a BLAST to drive in a wide open parking lot with an inch or two or snow.

Good to know that the Sport and Sport + does not turn off traction control! I would hate to have her take it out and be in any other mode and have the car do something different than what she would expect.
I would double check since mine is an 18 and they did make changes in the 19, but It definitely is on all the time on the 18 unless you deliberately disable.
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The traction control is very aggressive and will prevent that from happening and the comfort or eco mode or whatever is on the 19 will keep RPMs low. You have to manually disable the traction control with a special button on the center stack. First it goes to Sport, and if you hold it down you can turn it off but it isn’t entirely off. With it on, if will cut power if necessary in the snow. Sport and Sport plus does not disable traction control, so those systems will kick in on any mode. You can’t really spin the tires in this one. It’s definitely a winter ready machine. Obviously you have to know how to drive in the snow and exercise due care, but it is probably as safe as a sedan gets. Audi quattro might be slightly better—probably pretty close but not sure. From what I read it is better than BMW’s XDrive.

I frankly look forward to “snow driving”.
Thanks! In our Audi it was simply DRIVE and FORGET....the Quattro simply drove for her and got home just fine.

Good to know on the C43! That is what we are looking for.

Personally, I grew up in snow and driving with a Chevy Malibu station wagon and many other cars that had NONE of these "high tech" systems. We all got home safe!

These days, the traction control things are awesome! However, they do not take away from practicing in the vehicle someone is operating!

And I am an advocate of getting dedicated SNOW tires! Why even chance a situation when something could be avoided due to inclement weather!
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