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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 05:21 PM
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Did they say how they will approach the problem? Or give a time line on the solution?

Otherwise, I fear they’ll just flash another 2019 and tell the customer the same thing and then another and then another. Won’t they need an actual car to solve the issue?
umm not really. They said if I want more power to go for catless Downpipes and a dynotune. It’s kinda misleading, because they market their tune on their website as c43 2017-2019 making 470hp 600tq. Which is clearly not the case for 2019s. Anyways, hope they find a c43 they can develop on and then I can take my car back for a reflash.
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by carlislep
umm not really. They said if I want more power to go for catless Downpipes and a dynotune. It’s kinda misleading, because they market their tune on their website as c43 2017-2019 making 470hp 600tq. Which is clearly not the case for 2019s. Anyways, hope they find a c43 they can develop on and then I can take my car back for a reflash.
Wasn’t it Eurocharged who kept insisting downpipes don’t make a difference? If I recall correctly.

That’s curious because the exhaust for the 2019 is exactly the same as previous model that makes more power without the need for catless downpipes.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TModelle
Wasn’t it Eurocharged who kept insisting downpipes don’t make a difference? If I recall correctly.

That’s curious because the exhaust for the 2019 is exactly the same as previous model that makes more power without the need for catless downpipes.
No they didn't say that.
Decattng makes a significant improvement but only if combined with a suitable remap.
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Hi, fairly new to the forum with a 2020 C43. Just wanted to see if there was any update to the tunes for FL cars.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by carlislep
umm not really. They said if I want more power to go for catless Downpipes and a dynotune. It’s kinda misleading, because they market their tune on their website as c43 2017-2019 making 470hp 600tq. Which is clearly not the case for 2019s. Anyways, hope they find a c43 they can develop on and then I can take my car back for a reflash.
Any news from Eurocharged on the update for 2019 models?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TModelle
That’s what I’m running now. Hoping EC will finally get their tune right for the 19 so that I can try theirs out and compare.
What year is your C43, TModelle?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 10:39 AM
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I’m thinking of now getting a piggyback. Not JB4.
What's keeping you away from JB4?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by batman719
What's keeping you away from JB4?
Not a direct answer, but jim04clk got Dinan as have I. It is extremely affordable (only $250), beyond easy to install/deinstall, safe on your engine and has a return policy from 14 days (if bought directly from Dinan) to as much as 30-60 days (if bought from other vendors line ecstuning, summit racing, etc.). Why not try it and if it is not "enough", just return it.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 11:30 AM
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Not a direct answer, but jim04clk got Dinan as have I. It is extremely affordable (only $250), beyond easy to install/deinstall, safe on your engine and has a return policy from 14 days (if bought directly from Dinan) to as much as 30-60 days (if bought from other vendors line ecstuning, summit racing, etc.). Why not try it and if it is not "enough", just return it.
The only reason I haven't considered Dinan is because their latest tunes appear to be for 2018. I have a 2019.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by batman719
The only reason I haven't considered Dinan is because their latest tunes appear to be for 2018. I have a 2019.
We (I, jim04clk and 2012 merc ... with '19 E450) have addressed this "issue" in PMs and in other forums. I have '19 GLE43, jim04 - '19 C43 and 2012merc - '19 E450. We were in separate contacts with Dinan and the reason it is not listed for MY19 is because they have not tested anything on MB MY19 (Dinan has an impeccable reputation, so even though engines are the same, until it is tested by them for a given MY - it will not be on their site). However, we found that it is 100% compatible (2012merc said he has his in '19 E450 wagon for 6months now) with all MB 3L V6BT engines 2015-2019+. Excellent product considering price, ease of installation (or removal) and safety. A superb bang for the buck product.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Thanks for the info.
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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 08:23 AM
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We (I, jim04clk and 2012 merc ... with '19 E450) have addressed this "issue" in PMs and in other forums. I have '19 GLE43, jim04 - '19 C43 and 2012merc - '19 E450. We were in separate contacts with Dinan and the reason it is not listed for MY19 is because they have not tested anything on MB MY19 (Dinan has an impeccable reputation, so even though engines are the same, until it is tested by them for a given MY - it will not be on their site). However, we found that it is 100% compatible (2012merc said he has his in '19 E450 wagon for 6months now) with all MB 3L V6BT engines 2015-2019+. Excellent product considering price, ease of installation (or removal) and safety. A superb bang for the buck product.
Yes. I love it. The app is kinda useless other then setting up mode. I have it in Race. Supposingly 3.2 pounds of boost increase. It makes every drive mode a little sharper. Comfort is nice. I generally drive in Sport. It’s more felt in mid range and upstairs. Car gets into its powerband faster. Downshift pops on my car improved. I have the PE exhaust. For $250. Can’t beat it.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 02:01 PM
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Yes. I love it. The app is kinda useless other then setting up mode. I have it in Race. Supposingly 3.2 pounds of boost increase. It makes every drive mode a little sharper. Comfort is nice. I generally drive in Sport. It’s more felt in mid range and upstairs. Car gets into its powerband faster. Downshift pops on my car improved. I have the PE exhaust. For $250. Can’t beat it.
Do you have any draggy results?
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 12:51 PM
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Do you have any draggy results?
No. but trust me you will know it’s there. I’m not saying it makes the most power. Or it’s better then JB4 or Racechip. I just wanted an easy solution. There is one other piggy out there that use a 2 sensor hookup. If I get thirsty for power I might go that route. ECU flash didn’t work for me. Facelift cars need a different tune. I thinks the weather and gas available could be a big factor why some people don’t have luck with the facelift tunes.
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Originally Posted by jim04clk
No. but trust me you will know it’s there. I’m not saying it makes the most power. Or it’s better then JB4 or Racechip. I just wanted an easy solution. There is one other piggy out there that use a 2 sensor hookup. If I get thirsty for power I might go that route. ECU flash didn’t work for me. Facelift cars need a different tune. I thinks the weather and gas available could be a big factor why some people don’t have luck with the facelift tunes.
Don't care about the best results just want to ensure there are at least some. For the price and installation Dinan seems like a no brainer. Would be awesome to see some 0-60 improvements to justify the hassle.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
Don't care about the best results just want to ensure there are at least some. For the price and installation Dinan seems like a no brainer. Would be awesome to see some 0-60 improvements to justify the hassle.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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I got 4.9 for your 0-60 run with Dinan on race mode...not that impressive lol
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Originally Posted by threeMBs
on a 2019.

we know it works on prior model years.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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It sounds you are questioning those with 2019s stating that Dinan does work.
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Originally Posted by bzammitt
I got 4.9 for your 0-60 run with Dinan on race mode...not that impressive lol
Oh its not my car. Just a YouTube video. I have '19 GLE43 and while I did not time it, car "feels" significantly improved considering a more than modest investment I made.

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Originally Posted by threeMBs
It sounds you are questioning those with 2019s stating that Dinan does work.
I would love to see verifiable proof the the dinan unit is working on a 2019 c43 - you saying your butt dyno checks out is less than compelling information.

And don't get defensive - it's literally not listed on their own website. Which probably speaks more to their integrity as a company more than it not actually working.

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why are you talking in circles?!! gah

I would love to see verifiable proof the the dinan unit is working on a 2019 c43 - you saying your butt dyno checks out is less than compelling information.

And don't get defensive - it's literally not listed on their own website. Which probably speaks more to their integrity as a company more than it not actually working.
I suggest you put me on your ignore list. I have.
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I got 4.9 for your 0-60 run with Dinan on race mode...not that impressive lol
I followed your example and timed him as well... on my stop watch I got same 4.9sec with Dinan in Race, but 5.7sec in Stock. To me a big difference. My heavy GLE43's 0-60 time per mbusa.com is 5.5, if Dinan makes it even 5sec flat then I am more than pleased (car feels much quicker in S and S+ with Dinan set to Race vs. S/S+ stock).
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No. but trust me you will know it’s there. I’m not saying it makes the most power. Or it’s better then JB4 or Racechip. I just wanted an easy solution. There is one other piggy out there that use a 2 sensor hookup. If I get thirsty for power I might go that route. ECU flash didn’t work for me. Facelift cars need a different tune. I thinks the weather and gas available could be a big factor why some people don’t have luck with the facelift tunes.
Why would the weather make a difference to someone having bad luck with facelift tune? That's absurd.
For the record, even though facelift tunes have clearly not been written from scratch or perfected yet, the cars are still hugely faster than stock.
My Dragy verified times on Eurocharged V4: ( 2019 Estate, P Zero RFs)
0-60 MPH 3.50 ( stock estate- high 4s)
1/4 mile 11.81 @114mph ( stock - high 12s)
100-2001 KPH - 10.18 secs -( stock estate- 12.8 - see Auto Top NL)
Over a second improvement in just the 0-60 is crazy.

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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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Why would the weather make a difference to someone having bad luck with facelift tune? That's absurd.
For the record, even though facelift tunes have clearly not been written from scratch or perfected yet, the cars are still hugely faster than stock.
My Dragy verified times on Eurocharged V4: ( 2019 Estate, P Zero RFs)
0-60 MPH 3.50 ( stock estate- high 4s)
1/4 mile 11.81 @114mph ( stock - high 12s)
100-2001 KPH - 10.18 secs -( stock estate- 12.8 - see Auto Top NL)
Over a second improvement in just the 0-60 is crazy.
It’s not absurd. In the north East in the USA the gas companies are forced to put in an additive in the gas. This addictive is for emissions and makes the gas burn differently. It’s not good for a car that has the ecu tuned within an inch of its life to make power no room for error. Fouls up o2 sensors and throws cel. It happened to me.
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