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Why would the weather make a difference to someone having bad luck with facelift tune? That's absurd.
For the record, even though facelift tunes have clearly not been written from scratch or perfected yet, the cars are still hugely faster than stock.
My Dragy verified times on Eurocharged V4: ( 2019 Estate, P Zero RFs)
0-60 MPH 3.50 ( stock estate- high 4s)
1/4 mile 11.81 @114mph ( stock - high 12s)
100-2001 KPH - 10.18 secs -( stock estate- 12.8 - see Auto Top NL)
Over a second improvement in just the 0-60 is crazy.
Do you have any dyno results w/Eurocharged V4? (I'm not challenging your Dragy times here, I'm just wondering what 2019 models are seeing in terms of HP/TQ gains w/Eurocharged)
Do you have any dyno results w/Eurocharged V4? (I'm not challenging your Dragy times here, I'm just wondering what 2019 models are seeing in terms of HP/TQ gains w/Eurocharged)
Do you have any dyno results w/Eurocharged V4? (I'm not challenging your Dragy times here, I'm just wondering what 2019 models are seeing in terms of HP/TQ gains w/Eurocharged)
I've posted it earlier in the thread.
I you look carefully there is :
a huge area gain under the new curve - much border spread of power and torque.
Peak and overall torque gains are huge.
Peak power gain is modest - but over the rev range it's making extra 50 WHP approx, right till the red line.
Obviously I'd like a bigger peak gain as well, but its also important to have a big area under the power/ torque curve, not just a peak gain- because that's obviously only felt in the last 1K RPM.
I've posted it earlier in the thread.
I you look carefully there is :
a huge area gain under the new curve - much border spread of power and torque.
Peak and overall torque gains are huge.
Peak power gain is modest - but over the rev range it's making extra 50 WHP approx, right till the red line.
Obviously I'd like a bigger peak gain as well, but its also important to have a big area under the power/ torque curve, not just a peak gain- because that's obviously only felt in the last 1K RPM.
Yup, I see it now, and I agree with your asssesment. I definitely wouldn't be disappointed with these results. Still, I can't help but wonder if EC can squeeze out some more in a tune specific to our MY2019s, so I'm happy to wait. I might go with a piggyback in the meantime.
Last edited by batman719; 01-29-2020 at 01:41 PM.
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So took my car back to EC Canada today. They took a look and recommended catless downpipes. i don’t want to go that route. So as of now my car makes 385whp and 482 torque. For some reason 2019 def make less than pre facelift. Hoping EC can figure it out soon so I can go get re flashed.
here is a pic of my dyno. Notice the top end power drop. they said it may be the TCU limiting it. Who knows.
I'm booked in on Saturday all being well, for an updated dyno tune on Eurocharged V4 . This will be 1st dyno run since I've removed the OPF. Will be interesting to see if the top end power can be improved now.
Just checked in with EC Canada and asked if they have made any progress on the 2019s and they said that making 38x whp (which is what my dyno showed) is in line with the stage 1 tunes for c43.
So it doesn’t seem like they are actively continuing to develop this tune for 2019s and up. Just my assumption based on that reply from them
I'm booked in on Saturday all being well, for an updated dyno tune on Eurocharged V4 . This will be 1st dyno run since I've removed the OPF. Will be interesting to see if the top end power can be improved now.
Are you going to do just a dyno run, or actually tweak the tune?
390 WHP 492 lb ft Wheel TQ. Excellent results with new map on OPF delete. Still one more file to update to see if will go any better.
What I don’t quite understand is that the tune you had before was for a car without OPF. Then you deleted the OPF, so what change did he make exactly? Just trying to understand this.
What I don’t quite understand is that the tune you had before was for a car without OPF. Then you deleted the OPF, so what change did he make exactly? Just trying to understand this.
what you need to understand is, the car was NOT dyno tuned for the updated maps.
now its been dyno tuned with live logs and and making the most of the hardware changes. So 390 Whp and 492 lb ft wheel torque, it's amazing for a 2019.
approximately 470 BHP and 560 lb ft torque.
Even if you take 15% off as it's a dyno jet that's great numbers.
I will be aiming for 3.3 0-60 mph and 11.6 1/4mile.
We're doing an air strip event in May , cant wait.
what you need to understand is, the car was NOT dyno tuned for the updated maps.
now its been dyno tuned with live logs and and making the most of the hardware changes. So 390 Whp and 492 lb ft wheel torque, it's amazing for a 2019.
approximately 470 BJP and 560 lb ft torque.
even if you take 15% off as it's a dyno jet that's great numbers.
I will be aiming for 3.3 0-60 mph and 11.6 1/4mile.
we're doing an air strip even in May , cant wait.
oh man that’s amazing. Still 5whp and 7wtq more than my 2018 (which likely isn’t noticeable?). However if you look at my dyno there is a cliff of a power drop around 5500rpm. Your dyno doesn’t seem to have that. EC Canada could not figure that out in my car.
oh man that’s amazing. Still 5whp and 7wtq more than my 2018 (which likely isn’t noticeable?). However if you look at my dyno there is a cliff of a power drop around 5500rpm. Your dyno doesn’t seem to have that. EC Canada could not figure that out in my car.
only reason I can think of for that is mine is a facelift with bigger turbines on the turbos, and the OPF delete helps open the exhaust, but yours is a NA car so it only have a less restrictive resonator there anyway.
That's great news for the 2019+ guys. Will the information gained from your tune time materialize as a new version tune (V5) for the C43, either all years or for the facelifts? Or is this result only for custom dyno tuned cars?
Did this cost you anything from EC or are they just trying to get this figured out for the facelift guys?
only reason I can think of for that is mine is a facelift with bigger turbines on the turbos, and the OPF delete helps open the exhaust, but yours is a NA car so it only have a less restrictive resonator there anyway.
sorry typo. Mine is a 2019.
I Also removed the middle resonator for an xpipe. Still numbers are less that yours.
That's great news for the 2019+ guys. Will the information gained from your tune time materialize as a new version tune (V5) for the C43, either all years or for the facelifts? Or is this result only for custom dyno tuned cars?
Did this cost you anything from EC or are they just trying to get this figured out for the facelift guys?
I'm not sure re a 'V5'.
So I paid MSL originally for the dyno + tune and Handheld, then Jerry sent me some later updates as we had some issues.
Then I paid for the off the shelf V4 map , which ended up being abit less powerful and slower- 3.6× and 11.9× vs 3.5× and 11.8× consistently. .
I said to both can you improve this for me as should be faster not slower, especially now I've done an OPF delete.
So this custom dyno was pro bono but I did pay for the latst update and this was basically refining that.
MSL didnt charge me for the addtional dyno time but we're on friendly terms & he's a really good guy. We had a delay getting it dyno'd so only made the cut off by 15 mins as Jerry had an appointment locally.
The car was running on UK 99RON Which I think is maybe like US 94/ 95 Octane?
I think live dyno tune or at least from logs on a road drive, is also better than just a stock file .
I'm aiming for below 3.5 0-60mph, 100-200 kph in the 9s and 11.6 1/4 mile now, which is doable considering my old times with the weaker power curve.
01-28-2020, 10:36 PM
