places

48 month is typically a bad lease. Better off buying. On a lease 36, MAYBE 39 that's it.

Dadmobile

Its also not a good deal, Benzs don’t lease well.

amgbenz0411

do you own a new AMG? Just curious. You bad mouth every deal, but probably havent been in realistic process and talked to many many dealers, not a estimated lease app. On a fully loaded $70K, I am guessing thats going to be $850 plus a month. 10k/36m

places

Yup, he's been all over the place with no hard numbers. Can't come up with a realistic scenario providing MF and residuals.

I think you're estimate is right, with an emphasis on the "plus". AMG leases are not cheap, best to weigh against purchase unless you 100% cut bait at 30/36 months. Then lease probably better. I've leased quite a few MB's over the years and AMG's always come with a premium. Pay to play.

Dadmobile

Lol not bad mouthing, just stating that “not bad” doesn’t mean it’s good either.
I have a C43 and GLC300, I’ve negotiated with 6 dealerships, a broker, and used these apps as references and eventually found a dealer to match or beat the prices I found.
I will say that it helps when your not picky on options, color, etc.. as I was more focused on a better deal than a custom specd car.
Also, now your comparing a $70k car to a $63k car, so yeah, your monthly probably will be in the 800s.

places

So are you leasing your C43? Care to share the deal assuming you are leasing it? Year, MSRP, Res, MF, Cap cost, money down, terms?

amgbenz0411

That is true, price sure can soften for dealer to get rid of the car off lot / less options, but when you're custom building, less room for negotiation and then residual / MF on delivery.

amgbenz0411

Haha I still want to get to the bottom of that guy's prices, details, etc

amgbenz0411

Yup gotta pay to play with AMG premium. Anyone that owns this car is paying the premium... self-explanatory.

mo11

Wow! 30+ posts on this thread and still no hard numbers. Here you go, I'll start. Although I don't probably count because I have a 2017 C43.
I ordered mine, took them all of 8 mos from the time I ordered until it was released by VPC and got to the dealership.
MSRP: 69,955
$0 down
10k/yr 48mo
$862/mo inc tax l.a county CA

I'm sure my deal is bad and I don't care. I hardly even drive this car... I just hit 10k miles, and my lease is up end of the year.

Dadmobile

I ended up purchasing my AMG, I didn’t save my lease proposals but the residual for 36 is bumped up to 60 now (believe it was 57) and the MF is .00157 by MBFS. I did get fleet discounting in addition to the dealer cap cost reductions.

places

Thank you for sharing your deal with us. All in all not a terrible deal, probably somewhere in the middle. I'm sure there are plenty of people paying over 1K. As long as you are enjoying the car that's all that matters!

mo11

Oh, and it includes 3 yr maintenance too, btw.

Dadmobile

Absolutely, which is why I look at dealer inventory when negotiating price. I don’t bother unless the car has been sitting on their lot for more than 30 days.

Dadmobile

I own the C43 and leased the GLC. I was looking at a 2019 C43 36/10 $0 down, 0 MSD, and MF at .00157, the residual was still 57% a few months back. It was $62k msrp down to $57k in Q4.

thwgw24

Dealer’s initial proposal. What else can I do to get better deal?

amgbenz0411

Almost $900 / $0 down for a 36 month lease with almost a $61K selling price, proves my point "Dadmobile".. Gotta pay to play lol

Oscar1194

You can definitely get a good deal on the C43, but it helps when you're open with the color and options for the vehicle. I financed a 2019 C43 back in November of 2019, didn't find enough differences between the 2019 and 2020 to justify buying a 2020. Only important options for me were the Performance Exhaust and Burmester sound system. I shopped in Southern California for about 3 weeks, with a set price in mind, and walked away with a better deal than I thought I would get. Would have been a good option to lease the vehicle, but financing it instead.
The details are below:
MSRP: $64,415
Selling Price: $49,800
$0 down

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amgbenz0411

Big discount you got, but yes you’re right depends on what people want. Rarely any 2019s left of unique options thrown in there, let alone exact options of what you want for a 2020. Hence custom ordering it and be done with it and then pay the premium, but ultimately be happy for a few years and you got what you want. I needed everything because I can’t drive the car and keep thinking about it of why not this why didn’t I get that lol.

Oscar1194

100% agree! If you’re going to own something for a while definitely pay to get the car you want and will be happy with. For me, I’m happy with what I got, and could live without the extra options. However, I would not hesitate to pay more for a vehicle with options I really want.

places

Curious if anyone here cross shopped pricing and rates with BMW M340?

Oscar1194

I did, the best discount prior to incentives was 12.5%. Money factor and Residual was better on the M340 at the time. However, I felt like the C43 was the better car.

amgbenz0411

incentives meaning like fleet discount? Or do they combine that with the MSRP discount and try to keep that money on back end?

Oscar1194

At the time I qualified for loyalty(prior car was a BMW lemon), and lease cash. Added up to $3,500. Could have added an additional $1,000 for being a recent college graduate, but was keeping that in my back pocket for when i found out their bottom price. They usually try to combine dealer discount and incentives, so make sure you know what the incentives are. Usually you qualify for those automatically. Then you can work on the actual dealership discount alone to get a better deal. In my case, the dealership discount for an M340 was $7,727.5(12.5%), plus $3,500 incentives for a total of 18% off. That was the best deal i found at the time. Monthly with $0 down and $0 drive offs was about $678~ for 3 years, 12k miles a year including 9.5% tax rate.