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A035 - OIL OFFSET QUANTITY +350GR OIL + 6.5L that means 6.85L but when you remove chain tensioners they hold oil isn't it? that means we should put more than 6.85L or im wrong?
P.S. i always check my oil after car sit min 1-2h at best before cold start on flat place
That is interesting. 350 GR? What does GR stand for?
i went for a drive and came back home and left it for 2h and now is showing below MAX... idk what the hell is that
Well, on these engines, first pull is most likely dry after a drive due to the vacuum, then you wipe and put back then you wait like 5-10 seconds then you pull and take the reading.
If the vehicle was sitting say for days, it will measure way above max.
I think you know this already but the dipstick is not fully submerged (or a better way to explain it is the dipstick is not dipping straight down into the oil pan, it goes down at an angle) so one side of the dipstick will read higher than the other side of the dipstick, always take the higher side as the reading.
For certain W205 vehicles, at least for pre-facelift, MB instructs to measure it this way (all vehicles except Mercedes-AMG C 63, dry sump):
1. Park the vehicle on a level surface
2. The engine should be switched off for approximately five minutes if the engine is at normal operating temperature
3. Pull oil dipstick out and wipe
4. Slowly slide dipstick in the guide tube to the stop and take it out again after a few seconds.
5. If the level is between min and max mark, the oil level is correct.
6. If the level is at min or dropped below min, add 1.1 US qt (1.0L) oil.
This is a Mercedes...
event the oil stick is smart!
You know how engine oil can be serviced through the dipstick tube ? Tube plunges all the way to the very bottom of the oil pan.
Meaning the level inside the dipstick tube... may not be exactly the same as the level of the oil pan ie. be not useful to look at. Crankcase pressure forces oil upwards inside your dipstick tube.
Let engine oil level settle OVERNIGHT, then have a look again.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Feb 7, 2025 at 03:42 PM.
That is interesting. 350 GR? What does GR stand for?
stands for grams perhaps ML 350GR = 350ML or 0.35liter
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Well, on these engines, first pull is most likely dry after a drive due to the vacuum, then you wipe and put back then you wait like 5-10 seconds then you pull and take the reading.
If the vehicle was sitting say for days, it will measure way above max.
I think you know this already but the dipstick is not fully submerged (or a better way to explain it is the dipstick is not dipping straight down into the oil pan, it goes down at an angle) so one side of the dipstick will read higher than the other side of the dipstick, always take the higher side as the reading.
first pull of stick i clean and then i took the measure of the 2nd pull, thanks for the additional clarification
This is a Mercedes...
event the oil stick is smart!
You know how engine oil can be serviced through the dipstick tube ? Tube plunges all the way to the very bottom of the oil pan.
Meaning the level inside the dipstick tube... may not be exactly the same as the level of the oil pan ie. be not useful to look at. Crankcase pressure forces oil upwards inside your dipstick tube.
Let engine oil level settle OVERNIGHT, then have a look again.
i get your point, it might be due the pressure and the oil go up and that's why shows that much.. which have logic in this as well..
but do you think i was refill too much with oil, nowhere i was able to find any info when chain tensioners were changed how much oil it could potentialy take the sump till read between MIN/MAX
so i get a bit concerned today when i saw my dipstick several times showing above MAX and i start thinking if i wasn't supposed to put 7.5L oil..?
@JettaRed if im not wrong you had WIS do you have any idea if this is documented there
Last edited by KristiyanPetrov; Feb 7, 2025 at 05:08 PM.
i get your point, it might be due the pressure and the oil go up and that's why shows that much.. which have logic in this as well..
but do you think i was refill too much with oil, nowhere i was able to find any info when chain tensioners were changed how much oil it could potentialy take the sump till read between MIN/MAX
so i get a bit concerned today when i saw my dipstick several times showing above MAX and i start thinking if i wasn't supposed to put 7.5L oil..?
@JettaRed if im not wrong you had WIS do you have any idea if this is documented there
We can only be right 95% of the time ... you're on the right track paying attention to details yourself
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Originally Posted by KristiyanPetrov
thanks also for this but i asked if possible to check when chain tensioners are changed and you pour new engine oil how much it should take aprx.
P.S. on my manual it says 6.5L and my offset based on VIN is 0.35L = 6.85L but i pour 7.5L until i see the reading a bit above mid lvl
but usually on oil change i put between 6.5-7L
Then I wouldn't worry about it. However, while an extra liter may put the reading over the MAX line, I doubt being a little over is going to hurt anything. There are YouTube videos showing someone filling almost the entire sump with oil before it gets to the point of frothing the oil. Frothing the oil is the real danger as it will cause the oil pressure to drop and the air displacing the oil does not lubricate sufficiently. Still, if you are worried, you can always suction some out through the dipstick tube and remeasure the next day. I'd remove 300ml-500ml and recheck.
i just checked it now after a drive yesterday so the car sit around 12h and again is showing above MAX
Ya that is normal because even more oil drops down the pan after sitting. There is a reason why lets say if you park the vehicle for several months to a year, it is recommended to manually spin the crank to bring some oil back so don't start the vehicle completely dry for seconds.
thanks also for this but i asked if possible to check when chain tensioners are changed and you pour new engine oil how much it should take aprx.
P.S. on my manual it says 6.5L and my offset based on VIN is 0.35L = 6.85L but i pour 7.5L until i see the reading a bit above mid lvl
but usually on oil change i put between 6.5-7L
Honestly that is not too bad of an issue, you most likely have issue when you are like 1 quart over, but like I said if you are worried you can always siphon it out.
Then I wouldn't worry about it. However, while an extra liter may put the reading over the MAX line, I doubt being a little over is going to hurt anything. There are YouTube videos showing someone filling almost the entire sump with oil before it gets to the point of frothing the oil. Frothing the oil is the real danger as it will cause the oil pressure to drop and the air displacing the oil does not lubricate sufficiently. Still, if you are worried, you can always suction some out through the dipstick tube and remeasure the next day. I'd remove 300ml-500ml and recheck.
Agree, the foaming like whip cream is an issue and sometimes worse than being low on oil as there is almost no lubrication for engine component's but his amount over should be fine, up to him if he wants to siphon some out.
i went to check my dipstick how bent it is and for some reason the oil is above the max even on the metal cable is showing... i check it constantly and was in the middle between MAX and MID, even though i clean the top of the tube in case have oil but.. this is really weird
Does anyone know when you change chain tensioners and the engine oil how much oil it should take because the service put 6.5L then start the car to run the oil then nothing on the stick (after few min) then 7l it was at the bottom of the MIN and then another .5L (total 7.5L) and it went a bit above of the MID, so im scared if now for some reason it seems to be overfilled but why for 2 months was showing me below the MAX... also does w205 have oil sensor if it's on max...?
no, the M276 does not have an oil sensor that alerts you if you go over, only a float to check if oil level is too low, the message displayed when it is too low is: Check oil level at next refueling or something along those lines.
i just checked it now after a drive yesterday so the car sit around 12h and again is showing above MAX
Kristiyan :
then we can conclude this is evidence showing trusted level.
> Adjusting level:
Suction 500mL out
Now level should be below Max
else repeat
When engine oil is serviced... the Total Qty depends on how much oil remains inside. Trust the dipstick more than published specifications based on dry engines.
Kristiyan :
then we can conclude this is evidence showing trusted level.
> Adjusting level:
Suction 500mL out
Now level should be below Max
else repeat
When engine oil is serviced... the Total Qty depends on how much oil remains inside. Trust the dipstick more than published specifications based on dry engines.
Forum member CaliBenzDriver has spoken concise and clear : ) Siphon some out.
Forum member CaliBenzDriver has spoken concise and clear : ) Siphon some out.
Sometimes we have to focus and sweat the small stuff
but when easy we keep insignificant things simple:
We have to be able to trust reliable bases :
good overall brakes condition...
good oil level...
good chassis voltage...
good Tstat coolant temps...
good tensioners condition...
good rubber mounts...
....
loosely controlled ok!
Sometimes we have to focus and sweat the small stuff
but when easy we keep insignificant things simple:
We have to be able to trust reliable bases :
good overall brakes condition...
good oil level...
good chassis voltage...
good Tstat coolant temps...
good tensioners condition...
good rubber mounts...
....
loosely controlled ok!
How is your recent ALT-LIN test drive????
My bad, forgot to update. the shifts are smoother, sorry about that still idle higher 600 instead of normal 500, despite in eco or comfort for over 500 KMs.
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