Difference between S-CL63 engines and C63?
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Difference between S-CL63 engines and C63?
If the only difference is a detune PCM or filter and exhaust design.... then it is safe to say Chip, Headers, intake and exhaust will put out huge gains 40-60rwhp.
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from the topgear review:
In this level of tune, it develops 457bhp, comfortably eclipsing the new M3's 420bhp. Called the M156, it's tunable to 580bhp with relative ease, and AMG engineers describe it as 'unstressed' at 457bhp. This is one the world's great engines.
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I think they're talking about "tuning" as AMG could do in future versions. It should be relatively easy to get to the 525 (DIN) HP of the S63 with improved breathing and ECU. The next 55 HP would take internal work, maybe cams, maybe throttle bodies, maybe other changes. I'm sure we'll see a lot more over time. A twin-turbo version can easily produce 700 HP, and the rumors persist that this is ultimately the plan for the SLC. But that will likely require strengthening the engine, while the AMG engineers seemed to say that they can get 580 without worrying about that. I suspect that's what "tuning" meant in the context of that discussion.
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I think they're talking about "tuning" as AMG could do in future versions. It should be relatively easy to get to the 525 (DIN) HP of the S63 with improved breathing and ECU. The next 55 HP would take internal work, maybe cams, maybe throttle bodies, maybe other changes. I'm sure we'll see a lot more over time. A twin-turbo version can easily produce 700 HP, and the rumors persist that this is ultimately the plan for the SLC. But that will likely require strengthening the engine, while the AMG engineers seemed to say that they can get 580 without worrying about that. I suspect that's what "tuning" meant in the context of that discussion.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5629
"The SLC engine is well known and respected for its performance — the 6.2-liter AMG V-8. In the SLC, it will be modified to pump out 700 bhp. Even more punch will arrive when a twin-turbo version makes its debut later."
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Actually, no one knows yet I guess, but according to R&T, the 6.2 AMG V-8 is capable of 700 hp in (presumably) a N/A set-up:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5629
"The SLC engine is well known and respected for its performance — the 6.2-liter AMG V-8. In the SLC, it will be modified to pump out 700 bhp. Even more punch will arrive when a twin-turbo version makes its debut later."
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5629
"The SLC engine is well known and respected for its performance — the 6.2-liter AMG V-8. In the SLC, it will be modified to pump out 700 bhp. Even more punch will arrive when a twin-turbo version makes its debut later."
Yikes
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As for revs, factory redline on the N/A 6.2 V-8 is 7200, and max power isn't until 6800 - granted, it's not an 8500 screamer, but 7200 isn't too shabby for a V-8
FWIW, it *is* an AMG, you know. It will have some version of the 6.2 V-8, which is the first-ever engine that AMG has designed from scratch (all prior have been tuned M-B engines). And, even though it'll be built by HWA (same "A" as "AMG"), it'll be badged as an AMG (similiar to the CLK GTR and CLK DTM cars - both HWA, but badged as AMG)
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Since you can't trust half of what most magazines say, I think the 700hp figure is for a twin turbo version of the 6.2 V8. 580hp is definitely attainable with the proper tuning and bolt-ons. It'll be one quick car, thats for sure!
