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From: NJ
'08 CL600,'09 C63 (sld), '07 550i (sld), '08 VW , '04 X5 4.4 (sld), '02 ML (sld), '01 e46M3 (sld)
Yep. I'm another BMW to C63 mover. Had the E46M3 and most recently a 550 sport. I drove the e92 M3 - it's a great car, a lot of fun to drive, cool sound (not as cool as the c63) but ultimately it lacked the one thing that my e46 M3 had and that everyn other car I've owned has lacked. The e46 simply felt special evey time I fired it up. The new M3 simply doesn't. Looking at the c63 (especially with the sahara beige interior I ordered) I think after 6 years and 3 cars since my e46 M3, I'll have a car that feels special again every time I turn the key.
I must admit I've never driven the C63 and only saw one in the flesh for the first time last weekend, parked on the street. Yet I know how much I'm going to enjoy it. It was built last Friday and is sitting somwhere between the factory and the ship. I seem to find myself running the VIN through the shipping website about 3 times a day to see if it's on the ocean yet!
In the end, when the toughest decision we have is between an M3 and a C63 life is pretty good...
I must admit I've never driven the C63 and only saw one in the flesh for the first time last weekend, parked on the street. Yet I know how much I'm going to enjoy it. It was built last Friday and is sitting somwhere between the factory and the ship. I seem to find myself running the VIN through the shipping website about 3 times a day to see if it's on the ocean yet!
In the end, when the toughest decision we have is between an M3 and a C63 life is pretty good...
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Yet another BMW to C63 driver
I owned a '97 M3 Sedan and loved to mid-range thrust it had. I traded it for a '07 BMW 335i which I have owned for over a year now. I love the torque from the twin turbos, but when I saw the C63, I fell in love. I placed an order without a test drive, 05 September factory delivery. My expectations are quite high, but I do not expect to be disappointed.
#30
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Joined: May 2008
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From: NYC
2009 C63 AMG Black on Black PP Package CF fully loaded
I owned a '97 M3 Sedan and loved to mid-range thrust it had. I traded it for a '07 BMW 335i which I have owned for over a year now. I love the torque from the twin turbos, but when I saw the C63, I fell in love. I placed an order without a test drive, 05 September factory delivery. My expectations are quite high, but I do not expect to be disappointed.
If you're use to driving a stick shift, as I am , you will find yourself looking to throw a few gears because it has such a thunderous sound between gears Especially when you open it up....
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Rumor has it Mercedes is dumping their 7 speed automatic and trying to find a partner to build an 8 speed dual clutch system.
What I'm really excited about is just numbers:
BMW plans to sell 80,000 M3s.
Lexus is making only 4500 IS-F's
I can't find any numbers on the C63
I do remember reading that at stock hp levels, the C63s' engine will be "unstressed" -- hello boost!
What I'm really excited about is just numbers:
BMW plans to sell 80,000 M3s.
Lexus is making only 4500 IS-F's
I can't find any numbers on the C63
I do remember reading that at stock hp levels, the C63s' engine will be "unstressed" -- hello boost!
Mercedes already has a multi-clutch system - it's called AMG Speedshift MCT (multi-clutch technology). It is based on Mercedes's 7 speed transmission and only uses clutch elements to change gears. It debued in the 2009 SL 63 AMG (available now) and will likely make its way through the AMG lineup over time.
#32
Have you guys read M3post lately? Sooooo glad I went with the C63.
Multiple people are having problems with the EDC. Many are not happy with M-DCT. That car just has too many electronically-controlled systems IMO. Do you really need to program the steering feel, suspension compliance, throttle sensitivity, and shift times every time you fire up the car? (answer: yes, if you have an M3) C'mon. I just want to hop in and drive. FAST.
C63 is the way to go. This car is going to beat the new M3 in reliability, bigtime!
My .02
Multiple people are having problems with the EDC. Many are not happy with M-DCT. That car just has too many electronically-controlled systems IMO. Do you really need to program the steering feel, suspension compliance, throttle sensitivity, and shift times every time you fire up the car? (answer: yes, if you have an M3) C'mon. I just want to hop in and drive. FAST.
C63 is the way to go. This car is going to beat the new M3 in reliability, bigtime!
My .02
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From: Sacramento/San Gabriel/Riverside
01' C32o
wow i was just on the link taht someone jt posted..
that guy ArtM3 is a total douchebag.
i hate guys like him with a passion.. it's like saying the PS3 is the greatest game system ever, yet the Wii is doing so much better in sales and satisfaction.
thank you jt, for being a highly educated individual. the world needs more people like you. cheers!
that guy ArtM3 is a total douchebag.
i hate guys like him with a passion.. it's like saying the PS3 is the greatest game system ever, yet the Wii is doing so much better in sales and satisfaction.
thank you jt, for being a highly educated individual. the world needs more people like you. cheers!
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wow i was just on the link taht someone jt posted..
that guy ArtM3 is a total douchebag.
i hate guys like him with a passion.. it's like saying the PS3 is the greatest game system ever, yet the Wii is doing so much better in sales and satisfaction.
thank you jt, for being a highly educated individual. the world needs more people like you. cheers!
that guy ArtM3 is a total douchebag.
i hate guys like him with a passion.. it's like saying the PS3 is the greatest game system ever, yet the Wii is doing so much better in sales and satisfaction.
thank you jt, for being a highly educated individual. the world needs more people like you. cheers!
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From: Sacramento/San Gabriel/Riverside
01' C32o
edit: hot damn! your dog is GORGEOUS!
#36
if he is down to earth, i just don't see it. sorry, but he sounds completely mad with his fanboyistic views on mercedes in general. and the other d ck riders agreeing like drones seem the same. he doesn't seem rational to me with that discussion, repeatedly quoting the same posts over and over again. if he only had an open mind when it comes to such topics i wouldn't be so riled up, LOL. sorry if i offended you in anyway; just never seen such loyalty to a brand/marque!
edit: hot damn! your dog is GORGEOUS!
edit: hot damn! your dog is GORGEOUS!
edit: Thanks on the dog, he is the best!
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Nope, not offended at all. I just know how Art is, all numbers. And to this day the numbers stand true, M3 is a faster round the track and better performer around the track car. But guess what, everyday driving, I want the C63 and the new M3 is fugly.. (personal opinion). Yes, he is a dedicated M3 "fan", as was I before the new fugly design, but I think he was a little instigated...
edit: Thanks on the dog, he is the best!
edit: Thanks on the dog, he is the best!
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edit: BTW, Art mentioned in one of his posts on that thread that he just put money down on a C63...
Last edited by AMGBeleza; 06-27-2008 at 04:51 AM.
#39
I have a C63 on order. I just wanted to mention that BMW sells more M3's than all of the AMG branded cars put together. I kinda like that because our C63's will be more exclusive. Until now BMW has had the market cornered on performance and Mercedes/AMG has superior HP/TQ and raw speed. The C63 changes everything IMO. It is superior in HP/TQ and damn close to the handling of the M. To me BMW is slacking with the new M3 and I hope with the release of the new C63, it will incent them to do better.
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W203 slightly modified
I would rather spend a year getting to know the car and its little idiocyncratic flaws.
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E63 vs 335xi
For what it's worth...
The 335xi is fast, peppy, very tossable around corners and curves, gets 20+mpg in mixed city/highway driving, and a very fun car.
The problem is, I have an E63 as well...
@ quarter throttle, I have a luxurious yacht that smooths out all the bumps and road imperfections that the shorter wheelbase 3 series transmits right through to the cabin.
Beyond quarter throttle, the yacht shrinks instantaneously into a cigar boat, and does things no 2-ton sedan should be able to do...
The roar of the V-8 is Wagner-esque. Apparently, the entire neighborhood knows I'm coming home when I pull up to the garage...
The 335xi's acceleration pins you to the seat. The E63's pins you to the BACK seat...and gives you that rollercoaster headache from too many g's...
While I've only seen the C63 (and it looks badass compared to my E63, and I thought my E63 looked evil in black already...), I've never driven it so I cannot comment on the ride. All I know is the E63 is orders of magnitude more comfortable than my old C32 from the ride department.
What I CAN say though, is that engine, for day to day driving, is the most addictive symphony you will ever hear, feel, and control.
Once you get a 63, you will suffer the curse of "What the hell am I going to drive after this?" syndrome. Be warned: it will afflict you some time after you've picked up your car, and before the lease is up (it took me just 3 months before I'm worried about the day I have to return mine...)
I can't imagine the same engine in a smaller car tuned for performance instead of luxury. I'm sure the C63 will be an awesome driving experience.
Welcome to the club...
The 335xi is fast, peppy, very tossable around corners and curves, gets 20+mpg in mixed city/highway driving, and a very fun car.
The problem is, I have an E63 as well...
@ quarter throttle, I have a luxurious yacht that smooths out all the bumps and road imperfections that the shorter wheelbase 3 series transmits right through to the cabin.
Beyond quarter throttle, the yacht shrinks instantaneously into a cigar boat, and does things no 2-ton sedan should be able to do...
The roar of the V-8 is Wagner-esque. Apparently, the entire neighborhood knows I'm coming home when I pull up to the garage...
The 335xi's acceleration pins you to the seat. The E63's pins you to the BACK seat...and gives you that rollercoaster headache from too many g's...
While I've only seen the C63 (and it looks badass compared to my E63, and I thought my E63 looked evil in black already...), I've never driven it so I cannot comment on the ride. All I know is the E63 is orders of magnitude more comfortable than my old C32 from the ride department.
What I CAN say though, is that engine, for day to day driving, is the most addictive symphony you will ever hear, feel, and control.
Once you get a 63, you will suffer the curse of "What the hell am I going to drive after this?" syndrome. Be warned: it will afflict you some time after you've picked up your car, and before the lease is up (it took me just 3 months before I'm worried about the day I have to return mine...)
I can't imagine the same engine in a smaller car tuned for performance instead of luxury. I'm sure the C63 will be an awesome driving experience.
Welcome to the club...