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Old 11-29-2007, 07:22 AM
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as others agree....an audi is just a glorified vw.
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That has now become the case as Audi put the S just below M/AMG and the RS above but did you ever track your S4? Stock for stock it left it's direct competitor the C32 behind in that department.
I tracked my C32 head to head with S4s, and they are very, very close in performance. I had slightly upgraded springs (H&R Sports) and tires (245s front and back) and I was dead even with V8 S4s. I actually had better corner exit speeds because the Benz is a couple hundred pounds lighter.

Re the S5: It's basically a 2-door version of the next generation S4. Performance and pricing will be the same, and it WILL be a C63 competitor. The S4 and RS4 will bracket the C63. Want to spend less and be a tad slower? Buy the S4. Want to spend more and be faster? RS4. Nice strategy if you ask me.

And let's not forget one Audi benefit. ALL WHEEL DRIVE. We all know how much 2WD limits the ability to put big HP on the ground. They're NOT glorified VWs. When people say that, it reminds me of how my Dad would call Toyotas "plastic, Japanese junk." In some ways, Audis are superior to Benz, and in some ways inferior. It's nice to have choices.

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And let's not forget one Audi benefit. ALL WHEEL DRIVE. We all know how much 2WD limits the ability to put big HP on the ground. They're NOT glorified VWs. When people say that, it reminds me of how my Dad would call Toyotas "plastic, Japanese junk." In some ways, Audis are superior to Benz, and in some ways inferior. It's nice to have choices.
Thanks for posting that. Every time I see the "glorified VW" comment, I just shake my head I don't even try to argue the comment anymore as some people are just stuck on that mentality.
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Ive testdriven the S5 on two occasions. I really like it. Accelerates well, handles well, brakes well. I like that its a coupe and its a manual (two things my C55 werent, oh yeah and the AWD) My only complaint is the overboosted steering at low speed. I believe when the "driver select" option comes out next year it will address this setting. ("Audi Driver Select" system will let you change the accelerator pedal response, power steering assistance, shock absorber stiffness).

Could it use more power, hell yeah, what car couldnt. But it is what it is, and it is good in my opinion. Cant wait to testdrive the C63.
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Ive testdriven the S5 on two occasions. I really like it. Accelerates well, handles well, brakes well. I like that its a coupe and its a manual (two things my C55 werent, oh yeah and the AWD) My only complaint is the overboosted steering at low speed. I believe when the "driver select" option comes out next year it will address this setting. ("Audi Driver Select" system will let you change the accelerator pedal response, power steering assistance, shock absorber stiffness).

Could it use more power, hell yeah, what car couldnt. But it is what it is, and it is good in my opinion. Cant wait to testdrive the C63.
Don't be surprised if there's a DIY "fix" to the overboosted steering. My A6 had a plug-in module that overboosted the steering. I could either pull the module or wire in a switch (which I did) so that the overboost could be turned off.

Generally, I've found a much deeper enthusiast-user group with Audi than with Benz. To many blue-haired ladies buy Benz!
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Thanks for posting that. Every time I see the "glorified VW" comment, I just shake my head I don't even try to argue the comment anymore as some people are just stuck on that mentality.
I also like the comment, "Ahh, complex AWD system is just another thing to break." I've owned Audis since 1992 and have frequented Audi boards for years and have NEVER heard even one instance of a failure in the AWD system. Sometimes ignorance gets ground into the brain cells and it's just not going anywhere. Our job is to make sure it doesn't spread!
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Thanks for posting that. Every time I see the "glorified VW" comment, I just shake my head I don't even try to argue the comment anymore as some people are just stuck on that mentality.
LMAO, ahhhh the VW food chain.

hey dont forget, isnt Lamborghini just a glorified Audi?



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Don't be surprised if there's a DIY "fix" to the overboosted steering. My A6 had a plug-in module that overboosted the steering. I could either pull the module or wire in a switch (which I did) so that the overboost could be turned off.

Generally, I've found a much deeper enthusiast-user group with Audi than with Benz. To many blue-haired ladies buy Benz!

Good point.

all this damn technology lately.
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Originally Posted by RI55
Ive testdriven the S5 on two occasions. I really like it. Accelerates well, handles well, brakes well. I like that its a coupe and its a manual (two things my C55 werent, oh yeah and the AWD) My only complaint is the overboosted steering at low speed. I believe when the "driver select" option comes out next year it will address this setting. ("Audi Driver Select" system will let you change the accelerator pedal response, power steering assistance, shock absorber stiffness).

Could it use more power, hell yeah, what car couldnt. But it is what it is, and it is good in my opinion. Cant wait to testdrive the C63.
When will this become available? Do you have a link I where I can read about it?
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When will this become available? Do you have a link I where I can read about it?
The article above quotes it as "late fall 2008".
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The article above quotes it as "late fall 2008".
Which article? His post just said next year...
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after seeing all the coupes from bmw and benz, audi boss just thought they need a quick solution to compete.... ok then they just give 2 doors to an A4 while everything else remains the same... that's it... such a quick simple cheap solution... no innovation at all...


And you think BMW and MB coupes are any different. Audi have always had a coupe, it was only the previous generation that didn't have one. The original quattro was a coupe version of the 80 sedan, that was pretty innovative.
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Hey I saw an audi s5 today its verrryyy nice looking...The headlights are really cool and very similar to the r8's which i caught on the highway two days prior....
Soon you'll see many more Audi models with the same LED "eyeliner" on the headlights. They'll put them on every model just like they did with the grille. It'll get old soon IMO.
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LMAO, ahhhh the VW food chain.

hey dont forget, isnt Lamborghini just a glorified Audi?



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I've been well, you?
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Originally Posted by SolidGranite
Which article? His post just said next year...

heres a couple threads

http://forums.audiworld.com/a5/msgs/14250.phtml

http://rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13230
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OK, you've changed my mind. I want one but ONLY if I can also get an after market Turbo for this puppy (Someone said that there is an active audi performance market with lots of after market parts. If that is the case and if there already is an after market turbo already out there, than all it would take is someone with the initiative and the cash to make this thing into the next coming). Heck, even if the after market Turbo cost $15K, it would still be faster and cheaper than the M6, the C63, the 997TT, etc...
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring

And let's not forget one Audi benefit. ALL WHEEL DRIVE. We all know how much 2WD limits the ability to put big HP on the ground. They're NOT glorified VWs. When people say that, it reminds me of how my Dad would call Toyotas "plastic, Japanese junk." In some ways, Audis are superior to Benz, and in some ways inferior. It's nice to have choices.
Agreed.

By the way, there is a C32 in my family and it is no doubt a serious performer.
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OK, you've changed my mind. I want one but ONLY if I can also get an after market Turbo for this puppy (Someone said that there is an active audi performance market with lots of after market parts. If that is the case and if there already is an after market turbo already out there, than all it would take is someone with the initiative and the cash to make this thing into the next coming). Heck, even if the after market Turbo cost $15K, it would still be faster and cheaper than the M6, the C63, the 997TT, etc...

What's fun about turbos is that "Stage 1" is usually just a software upgrade that lifts the maximum boost number. Imagine that. 50 horsepower for $500, installed in 15 minutes! It can be rough on the turbo, and will void the drivetrain warranty, but that's a lot of bang for the buck.
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as others agree....an audi is just a glorified vw.
Only idiot of the week agrees. You're going to have to wait until Sunday but you're front runner to claim the crown.

Hmmm, maybe I should get my deposit back for the RS6. I could grab a Passat and have $100k left in change. Great fun.
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Soon you'll see many more Audi models with the same LED "eyeliner" on the headlights. They'll put them on every model just like they did with the grille. It'll get old soon IMO.
I unfortunately agree. Audi should have kept these running lights for the S/RS models only.
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i just seen 1 at the deala... what a sexy car.
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I've seen a couple in person. I don't like the way the S5 badge is angled due to the inward slope of the trunk sheetmetal.
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Only idiot of the week agrees. You're going to have to wait until Sunday but you're front runner to claim the crown.

Hmmm, maybe I should get my deposit back for the RS6. I could grab a Passat and have $100k left in change. Great fun.

I like your way of thinking lexus owners think the same
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white S5 is perfect!

red wine interor
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2 turbos (hopefully next year)

Unless the put the S6 V10.. the 4.2 V8 just does not interest me.

The C63 can't touch S5 interior. The the exterior is a toss up.


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