What to think of Top Gear's review of C63 VS M3 Vs Rs4
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And I reiterate my point. If you do NOT track your car, then for street use there is nothing you'll be able to do with the M3 that you cannot do with the C63. The cornering limits and balance that give the M3 an advantage on a track are never approached on the street.
And I reiterate my point. If you do NOT track your car, then for street use there is nothing you'll be able to do with the M3 that you cannot do with the C63. The cornering limits and balance that give the M3 an advantage on a track are never approached on the street.
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Agreed. It also makes you realize how silly it is to race or even push real hard on the street. We all love taking an exit ramp at high speed, but on a race track you're doing it on a dedicated, clean race track, with run-off areas, safety workers and with other drivers with the same mindset. Doing it on a public road, with curbs and soccer moms in minivans and unknown road surfaces. So if you have a shred of common sense, you dial it way back on the street. Or you end up on You Tube.
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LOL this statement alone is enough to make me recognize that you’re a troll.
I have a feeling that you don’t own an MB at all, because you’ve never posted a single comment neither in the W203 nor in the W202 forum, nor in the W204 forum. And at the same time you claimed to own a C280. Maybe you actually own an E36 M3 and work at CarToys or BestBuy.
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3576336
Maybe you decided to join MBW on a mission, maybe you personally hate MB. Of course you had to act friendly and neutral at first, even a little disappointed to the C63, just to gain a little bit of trust from the members here.
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But after a while you can’t help but show your true side.
I’m not against MB haters. Anyone has the right to hate anything, and nothing is perfect. But grow some ***** and don’t pretend to own a C280 or whatever. Just my .02
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LOL this statement alone is enough to make me recognize that you’re a troll.
I have a feeling that you don’t own an MB at all, because you’ve never posted a single comment neither in the W203 nor in the W202 forum, nor in the W204 forum. And at the same time you claimed to own a C280. Maybe you actually own an E36 M3 and work at CarToys or BestBuy.
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3576336
Maybe you decided to join MBW on a mission, maybe you personally hate MB. Of course you had to act friendly and neutral at first, even a little disappointed to the C63, just to gain a little bit of trust from the members here.
Re: https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2570157&postcount=60
But after a while you can’t help but show your true side.
I’m not against MB haters. Anyone has the right to hate anything, and nothing is perfect. But grow some ***** and don’t pretend to own a C280 or whatever. Just my .02
LOL this statement alone is enough to make me recognize that you’re a troll.
I have a feeling that you don’t own an MB at all, because you’ve never posted a single comment neither in the W203 nor in the W202 forum, nor in the W204 forum. And at the same time you claimed to own a C280. Maybe you actually own an E36 M3 and work at CarToys or BestBuy.
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3576336
Maybe you decided to join MBW on a mission, maybe you personally hate MB. Of course you had to act friendly and neutral at first, even a little disappointed to the C63, just to gain a little bit of trust from the members here.
Re: https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2570157&postcount=60
But after a while you can’t help but show your true side.
I’m not against MB haters. Anyone has the right to hate anything, and nothing is perfect. But grow some ***** and don’t pretend to own a C280 or whatever. Just my .02
every post i read from him (coded) is slamming the C63. from day 1 I thought he was a troll and was thinking that he probably doesn't even own the C280 that he claims to drive.
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That's a good value! For 2008 I'm going to do VIR once (not sure when), Summit at least twice, and if it works out, I'm going to try that new track in Millville, NJ (near the Jersey Shore). I've got a lot of buddies in the AudiClub, and I usually meet them at VIR. Mostly, I try to keep the events to weekend days.
I'm ordering a bunch of suspension stuff for the '44 and will hope to have something worth driving in the Spring!
I'm ordering a bunch of suspension stuff for the '44 and will hope to have something worth driving in the Spring!
not sure if you got wind of it but i'm picking up an e36 4 dr m3 tomorrow. this is street/track car then full race trim at some point prob late 2008. i'll post some pix later.
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Does anyone else think that the new M3 is too far away from what an M3 should be. First off there's just something wrong in the phrase V8 M3. Also the M3, as well as the M5, has always been the ultimate sleeper. It looks like a normal everyday sedan or coupe, but it's a beast underneath all the mundane everyday looks. Both the M3 and M5 just don't fit the description of performance BMW for me. I think both are still amazing cars but M just seems to have taken away what makes their cars so great. The C63 just goes along with what Merc and AMG has always been about, doing something ridiculous and unexpected.
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I bet they’ve received a lot of complaints from the C-class AMG owners, requesting to design the AMG models to stand out more, easily recognized as a performance car. Hence all the exterior body features on the C63 that wouldn’t be easily applied to the non-AMG models.
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Does anyone else think that the new M3 is too far away from what an M3 should be. First off there's just something wrong in the phrase V8 M3. Also the M3, as well as the M5, has always been the ultimate sleeper. It looks like a normal everyday sedan or coupe, but it's a beast underneath all the mundane everyday looks. Both the M3 and M5 just don't fit the description of performance BMW for me. I think both are still amazing cars but M just seems to have taken away what makes their cars so great. The C63 just goes along with what Merc and AMG has always been about, doing something ridiculous and unexpected.
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It has definitely evolved into something totally different than the original. Much heavier, must more luxurious. The closest thing to the original M3 might be the Lotus Elise. Light, one-dimensional, purist track toy. Folks say the 1 series will recapture the BMW 2002 image. That's dead wrong since the 1 series is almost as bloated as the 3 series (maybe 130 lbs lighter).
for the price of a few less options on a c63 or e92 m3 one can go prep or find a track car, and pay for 4 track days. and start the process of learning to be a great driver instead of trying to look like one. (hey before i get flamed i'm in the latter camp)!
there are other platforms out there of course but i favor e36 m3. body panels are same as regular m3s. tons of aftermarket support. stock weight is 3175 lbs, stripped prob 2500-2600. with a stg 3 package (chip, maf, injectors, headers, exhaust, cams) it's 300+ hp with out turning much higher revs. with a bigger rear diff or euro 6 speed this is potent track weapon.
lightweight cars are tons of fun. my suzuki swift is under 1900 lbs. doesn't have a ton of power but it can transistion and carve a corner very nicely indeed. the 135, is 3300 lbs or so, and again, the e36 m3 less than 3200.
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I didn't know so many fast and furious wanna-bes were into MBs.
stoplight racing? dangerous, stupid, and illegal. Watch the polic permanently impound your new C63, and then think whether it was worth it.
today's youth makes me so sad...
I didn't know so many fast and furious wanna-bes were into MBs.
stoplight racing? dangerous, stupid, and illegal. Watch the polic permanently impound your new C63, and then think whether it was worth it.
today's youth makes me so sad...
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[COLOR=black]I beg to differ. The E46 M3 wasn't designed to look like a normal everyday coupe hence its extended fenders, stance, gills, quad exhaust, rear diffuser, etc. On the other hand, C32/C55 didn’t get this kind of special treatments and they just look almost exactly like the non-AMG C-class, and a lot of the owners didn’t like this kind of approach.
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