Article on All-New Cadillac CTS-V With ZR-1's Engine!
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[QUOTE=SL65amg;2590178]It will have a 6 speed paddle shift as well as a manual, just like I said in my original post. They brought the power down to "only" 
550 HP and 550 lb/ft of torque so as to not **** off ZR-1 owners. Below I will post up the links to pics of the interior, which is very nice with that grippy faux-suede material for the seats and steering wheel. It will have nice Brembo brakes and should hit 60 in 3.5 easily (since the C63 can hit 60 in 3.9 with over 100 less horsepower).
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...wondering why you continue to compare it to the C63 and not the E63. IMO the E63 is it's competition. From a price point, the C63 makes sense but from a feature, size, build quality standpoint I don't agree.
550 HP and 550 lb/ft of torque so as to not **** off ZR-1 owners. Below I will post up the links to pics of the interior, which is very nice with that grippy faux-suede material for the seats and steering wheel. It will have nice Brembo brakes and should hit 60 in 3.5 easily (since the C63 can hit 60 in 3.9 with over 100 less horsepower).QUOTE]
...wondering why you continue to compare it to the C63 and not the E63. IMO the E63 is it's competition. From a price point, the C63 makes sense but from a feature, size, build quality standpoint I don't agree.
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Car is going to be incredible... Lutz says faster then M5 and S65 in 1/4 mile...
I have a Mallett CTSV / SC with 650bhp... car scares the **** out of me till this day...
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/4122
I have a Mallett CTSV / SC with 650bhp... car scares the **** out of me till this day...
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/4122
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Isn't the CTS more of an A6, E Class, 5 Series sized car and as such competes with the RS6, E63 and M5 why discuss it in relation to the C class the only thing it has in common with the C63 is it's much closer in price. At the moment you are comparing apples with oranges.
Can it go around a corner without falling off the road, I still don't think GM in the US can build a car that handles as well as the Germans. Now if GM Holden's HSV outfit in Australia had had a go at the handling then I would feel confident that it would handle properly.
Can it go around a corner without falling off the road, I still don't think GM in the US can build a car that handles as well as the Germans. Now if GM Holden's HSV outfit in Australia had had a go at the handling then I would feel confident that it would handle properly.
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The GTO was setup for US buyers, apparently you guys like squishy cars, the Australian market Monaro was an altogether stiffer sprung harder riding car, the HSV Monaro GTS is even better setup.
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i like the look on the regular CTS better than the V. i think the grill on it looks cheap. and up wow sc 6.2L and only 550bhp...i think if a MB were to supercharge their AMG 6.2L 
i m pretty sure they would get at least 600bhp...nice try GM
i m pretty sure they would get at least 600bhp...nice try GM
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The engine will be detuned to push ~550 hp, and not the 620 hp that ZR-1 owners feel entitled to.
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But even the VXR edition in the UK turns in real life performance way worse than its on-paper promise.
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Rubbish in the UK they love it, I have never read a bad review of it in any UK magazine. It's been a success for Vauxhall and they are now importing the latest version.
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If you guys think the Zr1 will be only 620hp, your crazy. A minimum of 650. Not even GM would detune the Zr1 with 6.2 liter to only 620. I am willing to bet that the new Zr1 will put down over 560 to the wheels on a dyno bone stock. The new V will be 580ish advertised hp but put down over 500 to the tires.
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Reread what I said and check your facts. While you're at it, buy the Jan '08 issue of Evo. With the supercharger pack it's putting out almost 100bhp more than the 63 and even more over the M3. It a lot slower once speeds get over 100mph. The word rubbish is apt.
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Anyone ever see the CTS-V vs Audi RS4 on Youtube? It's pretty cool. I think it was TopGear or something. I'll post the link when I get home if you want. I have always like the CTS-V. I just hate how cheap the interior was in the last one. As with most Caddys, the resale is poor as well. I saw a local one for sale that was just under 2 years old for $27,000. It was around $58,000 new.
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This video is mine...and I've only done 5 track days in my life! The suspension on this 3850 lb car rocks. I've added a couple things to tighten it up a little more but it comes ready for the twisties right from the factory.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...2c00183349.htm
The US GM is capable of building anything they want, but are most Americans going to buy a stiff car to drive on our crappy poorly-maintained roads?
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Typical blind ignorance to US products...the 2004 CTSV beat the Audi S4 around the track IN THE RAIN on Top Gear back in '04. The STIG was driving the Audi too!
This video is mine...and I've only done 5 track days in my life! The suspension on this 3850 lb car rocks. I've added a couple things to tighten it up a little more but it comes ready for the twisties right from the factory.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...2c00183349.htm
The US GM is capable of building anything they want, but are most Americans going to buy a stiff car to drive on our crappy poorly-maintained roads?
This video is mine...and I've only done 5 track days in my life! The suspension on this 3850 lb car rocks. I've added a couple things to tighten it up a little more but it comes ready for the twisties right from the factory.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...2c00183349.htm
The US GM is capable of building anything they want, but are most Americans going to buy a stiff car to drive on our crappy poorly-maintained roads?
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It might be blind arrogance but name me one American designed product which is popular outside the American market, you won't find any, American cars are made for the North American market and are hopelessly outclassed outside of it, they are only attractive to a very small minority of car buyers.
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I'm waiting for my ZR1 this fall, that is the last chance I'm going to give GM, if it turns out to be a piece of crap I will never buy another GM product as long as I live!
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It might be blind arrogance but name me one American designed product which is popular outside the American market, you won't find any, American cars are made for the North American market and are hopelessly outclassed outside of it, they are only attractive to a very small minority of car buyers.
GM releases 2007 sales figures:
DETROIT - General Motors sold 9,369,524 cars and trucks around the world in 2007, an increase of 3 percent, according to preliminary sales figures released today. In the fourth quarter, GM sold 2,305,752 vehicles, an increase of 4.8 percent compared with a year ago.
"We set a record in China with more than a million vehicles sold. We nearly doubled our sales in Russia to an all-time record of more than 258,000 vehicles delivered. And we set a record in Brazil with nearly a half-million vehicles sold," John Middlebrook, GM vice president, Global Sales, Service and Marketing Operations said today.
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Global sales of GM's top-selling brand, Chevrolet, grew more than 4 percent to 4.49 million vehicles compared with 2006 sales of 4.30 million. Chevrolet grew in all three regions outside North America, with the strongest performance in Europe with a nearly 34 percent increase compared with 2006. The Latin America, Africa and Middle East region saw strong Chevrolet growth with an additional 23 percent (208,000 vehicles) delivered over the 2006 level. Chevrolet also performed well in the Asia Pacific region, which was up 22 percent. The Aveo helped Chevrolet field a strong competitor in the very competitive global car market.
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Cadillac saw global growth with sales increases outside of North America last year, thanks to a 45 percent increase in the Europe, a 42 percent climb in the Latin America, Africa and Middle East region, and an impressive 106 percent hike in the Asia Pacific region.
"We set a record in China with more than a million vehicles sold. We nearly doubled our sales in Russia to an all-time record of more than 258,000 vehicles delivered. And we set a record in Brazil with nearly a half-million vehicles sold," John Middlebrook, GM vice president, Global Sales, Service and Marketing Operations said today.
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Global sales of GM's top-selling brand, Chevrolet, grew more than 4 percent to 4.49 million vehicles compared with 2006 sales of 4.30 million. Chevrolet grew in all three regions outside North America, with the strongest performance in Europe with a nearly 34 percent increase compared with 2006. The Latin America, Africa and Middle East region saw strong Chevrolet growth with an additional 23 percent (208,000 vehicles) delivered over the 2006 level. Chevrolet also performed well in the Asia Pacific region, which was up 22 percent. The Aveo helped Chevrolet field a strong competitor in the very competitive global car market.
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Cadillac saw global growth with sales increases outside of North America last year, thanks to a 45 percent increase in the Europe, a 42 percent climb in the Latin America, Africa and Middle East region, and an impressive 106 percent hike in the Asia Pacific region.
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Most of the GM products sold outside of North America are European, Asian or Australian designed vehicles with bugger all imput from GM US. I will say it again the US hasn't built a vehicle which is a market leading product outside of the North American market.
In the UK cadillac sold less than 500 cars, mainland Europe less than 3000, yup it's been a great sales success for cadillac.
In the UK cadillac sold less than 500 cars, mainland Europe less than 3000, yup it's been a great sales success for cadillac.
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It might be blind arrogance but name me one American designed product which is popular outside the American market, you won't find any, American cars are made for the North American market and are hopelessly outclassed outside of it, they are only attractive to a very small minority of car buyers.
I mean, what difference does it make whether or not a GM car was designed in the US, for the US market, or in Europe, for the European market? It's the same company...sheesh.
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It's not THE place to sell cars, I was using it as an example, other examples are NZ, Australia, Japan, Korea, Russia, South Africa, all countries I have spent quit a bit of time in and you never see an American car. North American cars designed by the big three for the North American market are not popular outside of that market, jesus how hard is it to understand my point.
