that's interesting and perhaps true from exterior dimensions, but once inside a CTS and STS it's clear that they compare more closely to the C and E, respectively, not the E and 7-series/S-class.

Don't think cause the ZO6 is lighter its necessarily faster. EndsMTG stage 2 E55 bested a stock C6 ZO6 twice and the weight difference of like 1000lbs only kepted the Vette competitive. The ZO6 is fast as hell but E55 AMGs are made well proportioned and though heavier will still be VERY hard to beat(especially modded)

A Honda is better made and though many would get a Harley(cause of the prestige) it won't be driven as much as the Honda if they had both..............

Only in Europe but here in the states they lag in sales per unit compared to their Honda/Yamaha/Susuki conterparts.

It's a caddy... 60k base makes sense. I wouldn't even be surprised if the base is 55k. Even if it was 50k base, I wouldn't buy it. Sometimes there are things more important than speed.

No matter Caddy/Infiniti/Lexus/Mercedes/Audi or BMW at 50k+ its alot considering todays economy...these prices are just plain outrages....its better to buy used and let the first buyer take the initial hit with gas guzzler tax...I mean its not like they are fully loaded at 50k and depreciation is so bad right now it scares me to go new again like I did formally with my Lexus.

I think the E63 wagon has more of it's weight distributed on its rear axel than the CLK, so probably allows better traction off the line. That could explain the similiar ETs despite the weight penalty. However, the trap speed should not be that close given the weight difference too.

Not true; here are interior/exterior dimensions from Consumer Reports:

Front shoulder room, front leg room, front head room, then repeats for the rear.
BMW 3 Series: 55.0 40.5 3.5 54.5 27.5 2.5
BMW 5 Series: 56.5 41.0 3.5 55.0 28.0 3.5

Benz C Class: 54.0 42.0 2.5 53.5 26.0 1.5
Benz E Class: 55.0 42.5 3.5 54.0 28.0 3.0

Cadillac CTS: 56.0 44.0 3.0 54.0 28.5 1.5

As you can see, the CTS has more front and rear legroom than either 5 Series or E Class, beats E Class in front shoulder room, ties it in rear shoulder room where it just misses the 5 Series (and beats the 3/C Class handily)...only place where it suffers is in rear headroom.


Exterior dimensions are the same story:
Length, width, height, wheelbase, turning circle and cargo volume:
BMW 3 Series: 178 72 56 109 37 11
BMW 5 Series: 191 73 58 114 39 14

Benz C Class: 182 70 57 109 35 12
Benz E Class: 190 72 58 112 38 16

Cadillac CTS: 192 73 58 113 38 14

Again, dimensions are closer to E Class / 5 Series than C or 3.

thanks for the numbers. i'm surprised, though, since from my experience sitting behind the wheel of all these cars, they feel as i described even if the numbers say otherwise.

i'm referring to the last version of the CTS, though, which i understand to be a little smaller than the new one.

That's probably it....afaik it has g-r-o-w-n a bit.

I'm actually planning on driving one of those before too long...the interior looks fantastic, need to sample it and see if it feels as good as it looks quality-wise.

It's funny: I went to the local Caddy dealership after-hours to look them over, and the sleazy SOBs had added Lo-Jacks to all of them at a markup--despite the fact that they've all got OnStar!! Unbelievable....

i don't know where you are, but the only cadi dealer in so.cal i feel offers a fair shake is martin out on the west side. ehlers is just a turdhole with the most ridiculously overpriced used section in town, which tells you about all you need to know. well, that and the fact that they and casa de cadillac actually lock the doors of the cars sitting in the showroom, so as to afford their halitosis-afflicted salespeople better opportunity to ruin your experience.

Well, haven't been in yet, but from what an Escalade-owning friend of mine tells me, the one closest to me is not quite as bad as all that! Although, after seeing and reflecting upon that Lo-Jack thing, I gotta tell ya, I may pass on the test drive....either they're crooks, morons, or both!!