Raced a C63 with my Z06
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
E60 M5 curb weight- 4012lbs.
Sorry man but that isn't the case. Less than 100lbs. Plus the wider track, longer wheelbase and tighter transmission of the M5.
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As for audi, The S6 is a 430hp pig. It competes with the 550i. RS6 looks good but weights 2.2tonnes compared to 1.8tonnes of the M5.
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C63 with performance package and wider tires + full potential of 6.3 (510 hp) will eat up M5.
I do not understand AMG why did they mess up on the tire size... this is one of the most important thigns on the car for handling... I mean even M3 comes with 265 in the rear.... how do the expect a heavy car with 6.3 engine and 440 ft of trq do well with 235 front and 255 rear... such a bs.
I will improve that on my car, 265/75 on the rear is a must, and im sure with PP and slight engine tune... this car will eat up m5's.... I have 2 friends with bmw m5's to beat, they are picking on my C63! And I will do it. after few slight vrp mods!
I do not understand AMG why did they mess up on the tire size... this is one of the most important thigns on the car for handling... I mean even M3 comes with 265 in the rear.... how do the expect a heavy car with 6.3 engine and 440 ft of trq do well with 235 front and 255 rear... such a bs.
I will improve that on my car, 265/75 on the rear is a must, and im sure with PP and slight engine tune... this car will eat up m5's.... I have 2 friends with bmw m5's to beat, they are picking on my C63! And I will do it. after few slight vrp mods!
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C63 with performance package and wider tires + full potential of 6.3 (510 hp) will eat up M5.
I do not understand AMG why did they mess up on the tire size... this is one of the most important thigns on the car for handling... I mean even M3 comes with 265 in the rear.... how do the expect a heavy car with 6.3 engine and 440 ft of trq do well with 235 front and 255 rear... such a bs.
I will improve that on my car, 265/75 on the rear is a must, and im sure with PP and slight engine tune... this car will eat up m5's.... I have 2 friends with bmw m5's to beat, they are picking on my C63! And I will do it. after few slight vrp mods!
I do not understand AMG why did they mess up on the tire size... this is one of the most important thigns on the car for handling... I mean even M3 comes with 265 in the rear.... how do the expect a heavy car with 6.3 engine and 440 ft of trq do well with 235 front and 255 rear... such a bs.
I will improve that on my car, 265/75 on the rear is a must, and im sure with PP and slight engine tune... this car will eat up m5's.... I have 2 friends with bmw m5's to beat, they are picking on my C63! And I will do it. after few slight vrp mods!
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The V-10 in the BMW makes 100hp/liter&revs to 8000+rpm,it's a excellent engine.Much more powerful then any comparable naturally aspirated AMG engine.
In this case the V-10 is better then the V-8 if your comparing a M5 to a C63.
I'm not impressed with any non-turbo Audi so I pay no interest to them.
I would put my money on a M5 around a road race course any day if it's racing any stock AMG,even the Black Series
In this case the V-10 is better then the V-8 if your comparing a M5 to a C63.
I'm not impressed with any non-turbo Audi so I pay no interest to them.
I would put my money on a M5 around a road race course any day if it's racing any stock AMG,even the Black Series
(maybe the 6 even has better dynamics cuz its a coupe)
here is a video of a side by side comparison of the CLK BS vs M6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNzuI7LO5lE&feature=related
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I think they are the same as E63 which wears 245f 265r, so i guess you can fit 265s at the back.... better rubber and wider tires are one of the first things im gonna change.
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Jeez! I wonder how my car would run against the C63 or the new M3?
Bobby ,pm me and let me know when that C63 is out there.
Bobby ,pm me and let me know when that C63 is out there.
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
I don't understand your logic. Same weight, same power, but the BMW has a distinct advantage in its transmission. I don't think that's a recipe for "eating up" anything. But you're welcome to try. Plus now you're getting into modded vs. stock which isn't even grounds regardless. If you want to go mod for mod you'll get walked.
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They have cars that wrangle 1800 HP through a 10.5-inch-wide tire. That's equivalent to about a 266mm-wide tire for the metric folk.
Also remember that adding width to the rears without the commensurate bump in front will only exacerbate the factory-installed understeer.
Sticky rubber in OEM sizes also adds grip without penalizing acceleration or braking - unlike heavier, larger tires that add to the unspeakable evil of unsprung weight.
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It's definitely a quick car. We did 3 races on the highway. I had a passenger with me so whatever hp increases I gained from headers and xpipe were definitely negated by the passenger. The C63 driver was riding solo. His car was black, no front plate, and smoked tail lights. The thing was LOUD for a stock car.
He followed me onto the highway and we did the classic 3 honk race. The first 2 runs I started in 2nd gear. We went from about 45-120 on both of these races. Each time, the C63 would hang with me for a split second and then I'd just pull on him hard.
The 3rd race was at a little lower speeds, around 30mph. I was in 1st gear. I got lots of wheelspin and traction control was fighting to keep the car straight. I pulled him even harder this time and beat him by about 10 lengths. After the race, I gave him a thumbs up and told him to follow me back to the meet, but he kept going. Props to him for running me though.
My impressions are that the C63 is a very, very quick car. I think it could hang with a 996 911 Turbo.
Also posted in kill section: https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/246310-killed-c63-996tt.html
He followed me onto the highway and we did the classic 3 honk race. The first 2 runs I started in 2nd gear. We went from about 45-120 on both of these races. Each time, the C63 would hang with me for a split second and then I'd just pull on him hard.
The 3rd race was at a little lower speeds, around 30mph. I was in 1st gear. I got lots of wheelspin and traction control was fighting to keep the car straight. I pulled him even harder this time and beat him by about 10 lengths. After the race, I gave him a thumbs up and told him to follow me back to the meet, but he kept going. Props to him for running me though.
My impressions are that the C63 is a very, very quick car. I think it could hang with a 996 911 Turbo.
Also posted in kill section: https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/246310-killed-c63-996tt.html
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CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
I don't understand your logic. Same weight, same power, but the BMW has a distinct advantage in its transmission. I don't think that's a recipe for "eating up" anything. But you're welcome to try. Plus now you're getting into modded vs. stock which isn't even grounds regardless. If you want to go mod for mod you'll get walked.
Tires are a must...i laugh at your width (255),with 285 rears on a 55k you still break traction easily!
M5 walking is at higher speeds. Lower is AMG advantage. Dig is AMGs
ChicagoX can wider tires both front and back slow the car down in the straights?
lets say 19 wheels 9inch fronts 11 rears?
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I've always match the amg with camaros and mustangs, but a top player like a vette should be a more play with an SL/SLR IMO... everyone will argue the price tags, but its quality, history, prestidge of the car :P
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CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
camaro/ mustangs are nothing comapred to the 55k and 63 cars. C6 vet is a contender though yes, as it should its the US icon. The AMG are normal cars turned into fast monsters, but stil have the luxary. The vet is ground up go fast car
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
Well, what a way to throw your hat into the ring. Join a forum with some of the most dedicated car enthusiasts in the world, with two of our own ground-up tuning houses, and just immediately start dribbling absolute bull***** expecting someone to bite.
Fantastic job, somebody ban this douche.
Fantastic job, somebody ban this douche.
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08 V6 Honda Accord Sedan PPM
4 door sedan? try something more sportier like the slr or sl65 etc... similiar shape and style and both geared to performance 500+ hsp instead of beefed up sedan.
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CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
just for reference SL55 is not the fastest 55 amg car... a sedan is
SL is heavier then some of the sedans out there
days of sedans not been considered sport car contenders is over
an SL65 is a nice car non the less though, and i would jump on it for the power that beast makes
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I may be trading in the Z06 for a C63 (of course, very nicely modded). If I do, before I mod it I'll definitely go against you in the deserted highways of Mexico. But from what I saw, the M5 should walk away from it.
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
Sounds like a plan, cuz nobody else here wants to do it.
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It sort of reminds me of the E46 M3. All the guidos think it's the hottest ***** on the road, but 90% of them couldn't race one any better than my grandma and half of them don't have the ***** to push the throttle down to the floor. Hopefully this car doesn't get too badly stereotyped because it really is a cool car...once the "uh yeah but if I get it chipped I'll pull on Vipers" or "yeah but my car is so baller," then we know the C63 will go down the tubes as another kiddy car.
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
It sort of reminds me of the E46 M3. All the guidos think it's the hottest ***** on the road, but 90% of them couldn't race one any better than my grandma and half of them don't have the ***** to push the throttle down to the floor. Hopefully this car doesn't get too badly stereotyped because it really is a cool car...once the "uh yeah but if I get it chipped I'll pull on Vipers" or "yeah but my car is so baller," then we know the C63 will go down the tubes as another kiddy car.
Hell I need my space to race man. I went at it with a C6 Vette the other day in what I considered light traffic and still had to jack on the brakes at 150mph. He had to learn a little respect when cutting off a faster car.
