anthony d

very true, that thing was spinning up on me in 4th gear @ well over 100mph.

and i apologize, i forgot the company that i was keeping. my statement about the only way a car is gonna beat a bike is with a bad rider on the bike is incorrect in the aspect oldgixxer mentioned above.

some very high-hp cars (supras, viper tt's, etc...) will walk all over modded bikes, both from a roll and from a stand still.

kindafast

Please excuse me if I'm wrong but if a street bike goes 0-60 in 2 seconds, than it obviously has some heavy mods done, and the top speed cap will be increased along with acceleration. On a 5 mile straight Veyron will win, but first two - three miles I give it to the bike. Plus who races that fast for that long?

Note to the poster: Bikes are not to be scrued with, even if you have an AMG

anthony d

incorrect, most stock 1000cc bikes will go from 0-60 in a little over 2 seconds with a good launch (the '07 gsx-r 1000 had a 0-60 time of 2.3 stock).

and a bike's top speed is very horsepower limited, as the cd of a bike is around .6 or so (to put it in perspective, a chevy tahoe is more aerodynamic than a suzuki gsx-r 1000). to make a bike hit and actual 200mph, you need about 190rwhp, which is 30rwhp more than any factory 1000cc bike makes currently.

even with a full exhaust, power commander, race filter, and velocity stacks, it will only make around 170-175rwhp, still well short of the 190 needed.

oldgixxer

No way man,everybody knows stock 1000cc bikes can do 200mph cuz BillyJoe's neighbors cousins boyfriend has one&he did it..and his is stock

Squid Central

anthony d

by the way, you need a space in between the comma and the word "and" in your sig...

oldgixxer

No porta-potty is safe from the proof-reader I see...

anthony d

lol... you know it!

360_iti

like I said in another thread, the noobs in this forum are hilarious !!
He even tried to use some lame excuses like A/C, C mode, break in .. LOL.
I hope this post doesn't continue to reflect the general image of C63 drivers.. because otherwise I might be embarrassed driving the car.

oldgixxer

Oh,just pop on over to the other thread you mentioned this in..

The C63 forum is better then Pay-Per-View

babyboigsxr

POWER to WEIGHT RATION bro. Especially if the bike is tuned, it'll be a waste of your gas.

It's not worth doing unless you have like a 10 minute straight away. LoL

anthony d

huh?

i think you mean ratio, not ration.

ratio = 160:440 (horsepower to weight)
ration = portion of food.

oldgixxer

Herd= group of cattle
Heard=listening

anthony d

bwahahahahaha!

i think i wrote group of cows... should have put cattle though, it sounds better.

FastDonzi

my '04 r1 made 166RWHP w/full exhaust & power commander.i have 1 tooth down in front and 2 up in back. insane roll-ons in 2nd.off the line,its very hard to get a sub 10 second 1/4 mile unless u r a pro or you drag race very often. 90% of the guys out there with 1000's can't ride well, let alone launch a bike perfectly to race a 1000hp AWD super car.on the other hand I've seen a 20year old track experienced rider on an '02 600 smoke a '02 stock viper from a roll and in the twisties.did i mention that a lot of people in fast cars can't drive them either.anyway, it would be very interesting to see how my R1 would do against a veyron from a 40 or 50MPH roll to 150.power to weight is similar. but bikes are like a brick through the air compared to cars.so at higher speeds they are screwed.BTW the guy in the video following those 2 cars can't ride for s**t. Have fun guys, and ride safe!

AMGMIZ

its all about the rider of the bike
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lKRQOf_kqfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTVJz46dJw&NR=1

974AGK

I wouldnt even race my C63 against my MV agusta F4 750 , bike wins almost 9 out of 10 times . A friend of mines son has an Aprila 125cc sport although tuned this little S*** of a thing can shift up to 0-60mph

STLTH_AMG

The 200 hp figure is at the crank and not wheels obviously. The bike has a ram air, Y pipes, Slip-on and power comander. The bike has 180 hp stock therefore should easily have more than 200 hp at the crank with its current upgrades. I haven't dynod the bike to get the actual rwhp yet, not done with the power upgrades just yet.

oh, and the bike actually weights 390 lbs, not 450 as I posted above.

anthony d

again, wtf? you are nowhere close to 200 with those few mods, even at the crank. you are delusional if you think the bike actually came with 180 at the crank. at best, you are making 160 at the wheel, which would be about 177 at the crank with 10% drivetrain loss.

i have seen new r1's with full exhaust, velocity stacks, pc3, and custom mapped only putting down 165 at the wheel, which is about 183 at the crank. and btw, your bike only has one drive wheel, so it would be "at the wheel", not "wheels" as you said.

and you were closer in your first post, the bike weighs about 440lbs. full of fuel, not sure where you got the 390 from.

STLTH_AMG

That’s the dry weight without fuel.

Delusional? wtf? It’s not like I’m making those numbers up haha. That’s what Yamaha claims the Stock bike makes, on paper. I never investigated their official claims!! I might be wrong, but I’m only estimating the crank power based on the facts the parts claim to increase HP. whatever it is, plenty of power to me!

Also, you need to keep in mind, not all R1's will produce the same power, so don't base your conclusion on 1 bike. I’ve seen stock C32s produce more power than others, I’d assume same thing applies to bikes. And by the way, it’s delusional not dillusional like you said.

Now back to the Topic, yes, 1000 cc Bikes will outrun 99% of cars out there!

oldgixxer

The manufacturers hp claim on the M.S.O. are always optimistic,as well as the claimed dry weight.Real world numbers are between 150-155 rwhp stock,on a good day.The 180hp figure is manufacturers hype including ram air,however,if you try to press Yamaha into giving you a solid number concerning how fast the bike needs to be travelling in order for the ram air to actually be effective you will not get a straightforward answer.The ram air topic has been highly inflammatory in the bike community ever since the ZX-11 made it's first appearance over 15yrs ago....

A slip on is 99% for sound not performance,and a PC3 is not required as hp gains from the slip-on are minute at best.I happen to know one of the best R1 tuners in the country,and his current generation R1 with full Akropovic Ti exhaust,PC3,and his custom map only puts down 160rwhp after countless development sessions on his own dyno.

The claimed dry weight is without any fluids at all;no fork oil,brake fluid,engine oil,coolant,gasoline,etc.Again,their scales are "happy".It took alot of expensive parts to get my '05 GSXR-1K down to a wet weight of 395lbs.I do have pix of it on the scales at Englishtown

I'm not trying to flame you here,just trying to keep it real

CLK Masters

Well since it's turned into a bike thread. Just sold my 07 GSXR 600 this morning.

Missing it already.

I've been thinking of getting either a yamaha R1/R6 or Ninja to replace it.

I've heard the ninja's are more "track" oriented, less relative comfort.

as far as use goes i take it to work 30 miles each way, highway driving, and to and from school.

anthony d

while you might not be making them up, you are believing them because you haven't seen enough of them on the dyno. manufacturers claims are always optimistic, whether they are talking about horsepower or weights.

i build and race sportbikes (road race, not drag race), and have seen hundreds of them on the scales as well as on the dyno.

i do apologize for the typo, and thank you for the correction.

TTAMG

i love toying with bikes with my mustang. I think most guys on a bike think they are unbeatable. Its funny going to track and watching these 1000cc or bigger bikes running 10's. Most of the guys on the bikes dont even know how to ride.

Jons95c36amg

I saw a 1300cc sport bike at a car meet last week. I wonder how many hp!?

OCKlasse

More like 99.999%