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Who you think might win?

Last Emperor

good question

Carl Lassiter

No it's not, it's infantile.

Depends on the chip/tune etc etc

5 mile track, 1/4mile drag?

Who cares? C63 is a far nicer car with better bodywork, brakes and engine. If you do truly have one then the last thing you should care about is a warranty-less 335.

Anyway, don't meant to be harsh just calling it as I see it. Welcome to the forum.

1st amg

Does it matter? Two totally different cars, cant compare the two, that is why BMW builds the M series, to compete with AMG.

Familycar

um..don't mean to offend..but umm, I think I'm agreeing with you.

Fikse

depending on the chip, it would be close.... the 335i can pick up 80HP from the chip, and it's 400+ pounds lighter than the C63...... I think the C63 would have the edge though....

RAVEN_CTS-V

Dude - lighten up. This is a typical internet question - it's not something to get worked up about

Hahah - I like that. Welcome to the forum you infantile newb. Good stuff

RAVEN_CTS-V

The 335 is pretty mod-friendly, though. You can get 350+ rwhp pretty easily - M3 territory with little $$.

UGOTMOPPED

Well..Let's put it like this. I have just sold my 2008 335 Coupe with Chip, Catless Downpipes, Full Exhaust, Suspension..BBS wheels and etc.MY car was/is fast...kept pulling and pulling....I don't deny that the car is amazing..and one of the faster cars to mod..but I think in my head, in all honesty..the C63 will prevail. The Dinan 335 which was modded out of the a** couldn't beat a stock m3...Below is video of Dinan VS M3

http://www.webridestv.com/showvideo.aspx?video=79736

RAVEN_CTS-V

Good vid - the M3 only beat it by a 1/10th in the 1/4 mile. Driver's race for sure.

But, I tend to agree with you. C63 FTW.

Fikse

my friends 335i with just the ecu upgrade running 12.3 @ 113.4 MPH:


http://www.dragtimes.com/2007-BMW-33...eos-15104.html



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RAVEN_CTS-V

Damn - that is stout for just ECU. Turbo cars rule!

2MANYCARS

Not even a close match. While my 335i was chipped with upgrades, it was not as fast as my C63 stock. Those tiny turbos run out fast. Upgraded turbos would be a different story.

RAVEN_CTS-V

How would you know - you have too many cars to even remember what they're like!

Seriously, though - if an ECU-only 335 can 12.3, that is deep into C63 territory.

AMGBeleza

Did this just become the Evo forum? Or maybe the turbo Civic forum. The car is a Mercedes Benz... WTF?

RAVEN_CTS-V

Yeah - nobody in the world cares how fast a C63 is. Moot point. Don't worry about it

A MB is just a magical car that automatically is above such comparisons, and wins every time.

PS - I love your freaking dog. Handsome animal!!!

TopGun32

with so many DME restrictions to the N54 by BWM Software Engineers, my desire to have a dialy 135 is gone.

Even if piggy back tuners turn to ECU flashes.. seems like you will have to keep updating your ECU with so many updates. Unless you have a tuner nearby.. its going to be a pain.

The tunning of the N54 will go on.. but it has definately lost some steam.

There will be modded N54, but not as before.

SOCAL55

actaully v2 modded 335i's alone can run into 12.5's easily.

FWIW, V2 e92 335i vs e92 m3

http://www.vimeo.com/1057389

the e92 V2 335i took it all the way...
FWIW, my cuzin just got a chipped 335i, its pretty tq'y and fast. the 335i smooth I6 can mislead the feeling of speed.

after running into one on the street a while ago, my guess a heavy modded one, my thought were in between 335i coupe and a C63 but, i am going with the C63, for many reasons esp warranty


P.S.
edmunds/insideline TESTS of both, besides accelaration

C63 AMG w/ amg performance package
30 - 0 (ft): 30
60 - 0 (ft): 114
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Very Good
Slalom (mph): 68.6
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.89
(c63 vs m3 comparison and stand alone)


e92 335i w/ sports package and 6 speed tranny
30 - 0 (ft): 26
60 - 0 (ft): 109
Braking Rating: (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor) Excellent
Slalom (mph): 69.5
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.89
(335i vs g37 comparison)

there good cars for the price, and something not to take lightly when modded, but a modded V8 is just even more sexy. with all the turbos issues alone to rise, modding doesnt seem like a likely situation esp whe comparing to a stock car.

2K6E55

+1. My 335i was modded up as well with V2, DP, exhaust, IC, KW2 but BMW is aggressively tracking down and VOID the car warranty any chance they get. It's NOT WORTH the trouble, besides, I will take the C63 over the 335i chipped any day... As far as which one is faster? With a little ECU tune on the C63, the chipped 335 will NOT have a chance.

C63 > 335i chipped

Fikse

with just a chip, that 335i pulls very hard, 12.3 @ 114 MPH..... it would be VERY close..... maybe your 335i wasn't tuned that well...... there are some drastic differences between the ecu upgrades.....

2MANYCARS

Do you know what gas it was using? What kind of tune? Tires? Weight Reduction? Lots of these little things have a part in generating the results you saw. When it comes to tuning my own cars, I know exactly how I want them to be, if it's daily beaten, like my old 335i, I'd like to leave a little head room just to be safe, but for my race machines, I always get the max out of them given the fact they will never see street duties.

SOCAL55

if were talking about the same 335i that is on youtube, then he had a K&N air filter drop in the box, a v2 PROcede, and 100 octane mix with 93.
he was on stock runflat tires and it was a automatic... very nice but how long will those turbos last?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cVMmkNcdpG4

my guess, with full exhaust+DP, FMIC upgrade, more boost racegas and a CAI still left on the table, this same car with some sticky rubber would see well in the 11's. but wouldnt last to 50k miles haha

AMGBeleza

Ha ha! Speaking of it being above all that... My order was placed today for 6 October PICKUP at the factory. Ir Silver on black. I think I'll take the train...

BoBcanada

335 might be as fast.. it will never sound as good

Last Emperor

very well said !


now will it break as many necks as the AMG