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Old 11-17-2008, 11:13 PM
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sorry for the mis understanding guys my car made 385whp sdt smoth5 (5th gear)
with sae smoth5 stock it made 374.90 whp (5th gear)

with sae smoth5 evosport/powerchip it made 391.10whp (5th gear)

as soon as i get the raw date from my dyno guy ill post them up.

i could not get a sheet to show everyone bc his connection from the dyno computer to his printer was not working and he will email me all the date from my stock 2 runs (4th gear and 5th gear) to my evo/powerchip 3 run (one 4th gear and two 5th gear runs)


im very disapointed right now im very mad i sent my ecu bad to powerchip and toled them to flash it back stock. i rele dont think im ganna do a tune at all now.

thanks for all you help guys everyone, mabee one day ill change my mine and give another tuner a chance to tune my car, but as far as evosport/powerchip goes i dont want it in my car anymore.
What did Evo/Powerchip say about this? Did they have an explanation?
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mthis- Sorry to hear about your results. Will you still be going to MIR? I am from Morris County NJ and I am planning to go as well.

Is Atco open Thursday? I may be going to Atco on Friday with a group of guys doing a track rental- If I get my parts by then.

Either way, Island Dragway is open Sunday for test and tune 10-4.

Let me know...
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Originally Posted by PedalPusher
mthis- Sorry to hear about your results. Will you still be going to MIR? I am from Morris County NJ and I am planning to go as well.

Is Atco open Thursday? I may be going to Atco on Friday with a group of guys doing a track rental- If I get my parts by then.

Either way, Island Dragway is open Sunday for test and tune 10-4.

Let me know...
yes i will be going to mir. and no i will not be going to atco thursday.


ATCO WILL BE CLOSED THURSDAY.

morris county n.j. i havent been ther in a long time but nice place. deff meet up sometime for fun.
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here you guys go what everyone has been waiting for.

this is my 5th gear pull with the evosport/powerchip tune

the 374.90 is also on 5th gear on my stock ecu
the 391.10 is also on 5th gear on my (had) evosport/powerchip ecu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvPUz2CmYE
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smoth at 5 SAE pause to see good.
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What did Evo/Powerchip say about this? Did they have an explanation?
sorry i dint get back to you.

they said that they dont think anything is wrong with the tune that they wanna see results. (here it is)

then i said i want it back to stock they kept saying y and we ganna try once more. i said 3 times to him i want it back to stock so now im ganna get my money back and go to mir with no tune.
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sorry i dint get back to you.

they said that they dont think anything is wrong with the tune that they wanna see results. (here it is)

then i said i want it back to stock they kept saying y and we ganna try once more. i said 3 times to him i want it back to stock so now im ganna get my money back and go to mir with no tune.
That sucks.
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not to provide a light of doubt for anyone but how many miles did you have on it after the tune?

Andy said he recomenneds running hard for 200-300 miles - i dont know why this "loosens" the ECU - does anyone know that?
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If the ECU is adapting after the flash the running hard would make sense. Did Evosport offer any advice or explanantion? This makes me wonder if I should hold off on having my ECU flashed until I'm past the 1000 mile breakin rather than having it done before taking delivery of the car.
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not to provide a light of doubt for anyone but how many miles did you have on it after the tune?

Andy said he recomenneds running hard for 200-300 miles - i dont know why this "loosens" the ECU - does anyone know that?
over 250
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Originally Posted by qship5
If the ECU is adapting after the flash the running hard would make sense. Did Evosport offer any advice or explanantion? This makes me wonder if I should hold off on having my ECU flashed until I'm past the 1000 mile breakin rather than having it done before taking delivery of the car.

wait out at least 5000k on it. dyno the car and then re dyno after you get it chipped or flashed.

advice yea give me $2000 and ill give you 16.2 whp ummmm thats $123.45 per horse power to wheel. what a bang for you buck lol
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I have my car flashed by Power Chip in Melbourne, I did not dyno the car but I can feel the car pull a lot harder doesn't feels like only 16hp gain.

May be they accidentally flashed you with the first version Power Chip ECU upgrade which only increase it from 336kw to 352kw which is more in line with your rwhp dyno result.

Stock
(336 kw) 450 hp minus 17% tranmission loss = 373.5 rwhp which is close to you stock dyno result.

If they really flash you with the first version

First version
(352 kw) 472 hp minus 17% tranmission loss = 391.7 rwhp which is very close to what you are getting

I don't think Evosport or Power Chip were dare to post a fake dyno graph to make a quick buck and damage there well known established brand name.
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ones too fast according to CHP!
I am sorry, I posted on the other thread. The problem is indeed that the file sent to mthis was the first generation file. It was a mistake that was made (we all make mistakes).

It is an unfortunate situation, and I have already appologized to mthis in his more recent thread.

thanks
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mthis, so what did you end up doing to your car? Is it back to stock or did you get the updated file from Evosport?
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mthis, so what did you end up doing to your car? Is it back to stock or did you get the updated file from Evosport?
back to stock for NOW.
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
I am sorry, I posted on the other thread. The problem is indeed that the file sent to mthis was the first generation file. It was a mistake that was made (we all make mistakes).

It is an unfortunate situation, and I have already appologized to mthis in his more recent thread.

thanks
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Brad, would the car still pass Air-Care in CA after the ECU flash?

thx
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Originally Posted by mthis
back to stock for NOW.
Why?
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Now I’m so nervous to even get the flash, I've been thinking about it for a while and finally decided it was worth it and was going to do it, until I read this...

I have no idea if I’m going to do it now...
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We have flashed numerous 63s with Powerchip latest file and the results are excellent.

On C63s it is 55+RWHP, on other 63s it is 15+RWHP. I have done numerous dynoes back to back.

There are no smog problems. Dealers have no idea about a flash.

I will post dynos tomorrow.

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Why?
thats was 4 months ago, read the time of the post.

i now have MHP ECU/TCU V3 running in my car. and also will be doing some other super stuff that MHP makes for my car.

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Now I’m so nervous to even get the flash, I've been thinking about it for a while and finally decided it was worth it and was going to do it, until I read this...

I have no idea if I’m going to do it now...

I have done mine with PC although there are a few CEL problems but they fix it finally, so far so good. And I have been talking with Wayne the Head of PC, they have a new version coming out in two weeks with around +10 hp more.

Just Do It

You won't regret it.
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Originally Posted by DaGS1800
Now I’m so nervous to even get the flash, I've been thinking about it for a while and finally decided it was worth it and was going to do it, until I read this...

I have no idea if I’m going to do it now...
Totally understand the general feeling of concern if you have been following different tuners. However, the great thing with Powerchip is that you have many more people on this site with powerchip compared to anything else, you also have a 14 day guarantee - so if you are not happy, you can get your money back.

Yes, there were issues with 2 customers of the Powerchip file that got the first version when they should have gotten the second version with throttle body manipulation. Besides those, there have not been any issues with Powerchip that I have any knowledge of.

We are testing the newest version of the C63 software in our beta car, and it does pick up nice midrange.

thanks
Brad
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only 15+whp from your flash Vadim.. isn't that little?
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Originally Posted by otoupalik
We are testing the newest version of the C63 software in our beta car, and it does pick up nice midrange.

thanks
Brad
Being the lucky sucker with the beta car and the new flash, I have to say the new file is fantastic. I've had it in the car for a couple days now and I didn't think a flash update would make this much of an improvement. I was running the mid-December flash, and the new one feels appreciably faster. The midrange is way stronger. On the highway I was in 5th gear (Manual) at about 85 and it pulled way harder than I expected. It felt like 4th used to at that speed. Sick. Putting the trans into sport and punching it at highway speeds is Ree. Tart. Tid. It jams you back into the seat and it feels like an elastic band stretching out. Keeping it floored until about 150 and dropping off the gas practically threw me into the belts from the wind resistance slowing the car, but the motor pulls so hard it disappears under hard acceleration. I have to give huge props to Jeremy at Powerchip for really digging into the maps and letting this beast off it's leash.

Oh yeah, how could I forget this tasty little tidbit? He found the transmission maps!!! He started with dropping the shift delay from .5sec down to .2sec and that makes an incredible difference in how it cracks off both up- and downshifts, especially in Manual. Oh, god the downshift barks from 5-4 and 4-3 give me goosebumps (especially with the new exhaust). He's looking into the other maps and making changes over the next few days. I'm sooooooo excited to test this weekend's flash...

Yes, you should be jealous.

Josh
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^^^ I'm am really anxious to see a dyno of your car with all your current mods...it sounds like a beast. Any plans to hit the strip anytime soon?


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